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RASHOMON? I never in a million years thought I'd hear a Marvel movie let alone Deadpool with that kind of comparison what the hell.
Ryan doesn’t get credit for how creative he is
He’s a marketing genius too.
He just a genius. Period.
he's just a period
Lol
His public persona is being such a goof, it's easy to forget he's also kind of brilliant
It's kind of wild after growing up with him doing Van Wilder and Waiting. I love all the success for him.
My friend, the dude was in relationships with Scarlett, Melissa Joan Hart, Charlize Theron, and of course Blake Lively.
I first saw him in Two Guys, A girl and a pizza place. He's been like this since he hit the screen.
2 Guys, a Girl and a Pizza Place for me
Didn't he sell his advertising agency for a billion dollars or something? He got credit from somewhere lol
Mint Mobile was bought by T-Mobile for a billion, of which he had a 25% share in. And before that he sold his gun company for like 500 million. He still has his marketing company.
Would "Aviation Guns" be Reynolds marketing rifles specifically to hunters in bush planes & helicopters?
Let's not get carried away here. Suggesting a Rashomon riff is about as original as suggesting Seven Samurai in space. It's the go-to suggestion for every project because Kurosawa is film 101.
The main reason I think they should make the movie about Cap returning Mjolnir and the Infinity Stones is because meeting the Red Skull on Vormir would be a PERFECT Seventh Seal homage. They could even replace the opening Marvel fanfare with the Scott Walker song. It absolutely exists in my head.
y’all complained about black widow because it was “released too late” then you constantly bring up this idea or the Cap “nomad” idea WHILE ALSO complaining that Sam’s captain america doesn’t get enough screen time.
The Feige quote is about him not wanting characters to return after strong endings. You’d think people would realize that he might have the same mindset for Steve Rogers.
Yea but that was before they started introducing characters nobody cares about
It was an anecdote about how he changed his mind. We know that, because Wolverine is in the next movie. Doesn't really matter which one it is - he's in it, played by Hugh Jackman.
I think he's wrong about the strong ending though. Logan was a bullshit movie. Not because they killed him (fine with that) but because it was crap.
I didn't do any of those things.
The Cap story is in high demand. They should consider doing it because it legitimately is interesting, but IMO it should be an animated Special Presentation and not a live action film. That keeps it from overshadowing Sam Wilson and also allows them to get pretty crazy with the content and sidestep anyone getting upset that "they brought back Cap". Nobody is going to feel that way about an animated feature on D+.
It's a pretty common way of structuring a story
Is it? I haven't seen the "same 20 minute event re-told several times" structure in a while. Would be fun as hell tho, not knowing who to trust, and it would lend itself to the cameo hit as Deadpool would be the one to add them in his retelling for a layer of manufactured drama
I don't have anything against this structure but I generally like it when superhero movies go big especially if it a kind of last hurrah or rare opportunity like this. As Ryan points out this a way of doing a big movie in a small way and I think I prefer the big way it seems like they went with, in this case
The Last Duel was kind of this style if you haven’t seen it
I did and I Lover it. Scott is a Cinematic master
Birds Of Prey was even advertised as "inspired by Rashomon" (which is just offensive to Kurosawa lol), so it's not even novelty for recent superhero projects. I'm sure Deadpool version would be more interestng, of course.
No it’s not, quit bullshitting lmao. It’s been done before, yes, but in no way is it common.
It's always sunny did it, Batman did it, people adapt Kurosawa pretty regularly.
Probably most long running sitcoms and cartoons did at one point or another. It’s very common.
I feel like the statements "probably 5% of shows and cartoons have done it at one point or another" and "it's very common" are mutually contradictory. Lmao.
Tbf it was a fairly common framing device in sitcoms for a while (and has been used in other movies too I'm sure I just can't think of any). All in the Family did it, King of the Hill did it, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air did it, Frasier did it. I'm sure a lot of people would be familiar with it if done in a Marvel movie just maybe not from Rashomon specifically.
The Last Duel was the most recent example I can think of.
Oh ok. I didn't see it but I remember hearing something about it at least being multiple POV.
How I met Your Mother & Arrested Development both did their final seasons this way, too
Even Star Wars did it in 2017
What episode of king of the hill did It? Legit curious
The one where Hank and the guys become volunteer firefighters and the firehouse burns down. They all tell the police chief a different self-aggrandizing version of how it happened.
Of course! Such a classic.. Bomhouer version was the best
Whats Rashomon?
It's an Akira Kurosawa movie (based on a book) in which different characters tell the same story of a crime that took place. The movie is structured so that you're essentially seeing the same 10-15 minute story over and over again, but since different people are telling the story each segment is dramatically different.
The gimmick has since been used many, many times over from major artistic directors to It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
There was also a segment like that in Batman: Gotham Knight, and it was different art styles for each view.
And an episode of Batman: TAS called POV.
And there's a great movie called Vantage Point. The same story told from eight different perspectives, starring Forest Whitaker and Dennis Quaid.
I’m watching this film tonight and am going to go down the filmography of Akira Kurosawa. My autism is strong today.
It's one of the best filmography's of all time. I recommend you go off the beaten path of his samurai/period piece films and explore some of his Film Noir, like the Stray Dog and The Bad Sleep Well. Also if you can somehow find it, Madadayo which which was his final film. Of course, after you do the greatest hits like Rashomon and The Seven Samurai
You are in for a treat. Bless Kurosawa and his films fr
High and Low is a flawless masterpiece. His best film that sticks out from the rest of his already impressive filmography.
I have to give a mention to Ikiru, a moving drama about a man in the autumn of his life who finds a new purpose. It was recently solidly adapted fot the West as Living (with Bill Nighy), it's a good remake but it's not as beautiful as the original. I love Kurosawa's samurai and crime films, but I think Ikiru is probably my favorite.
Oh and one of his last films, Dreams, another of my favorites. Inspired by his actual dreams and he had some wild ones. Imagine Vincent Van Gogh... but he's played by Scorsese (yup).
Please also watch Seven Samurai.
The Halloween episode of Sunny about who got Dee pregnant is a masterpiece, that shit is funny as hell
I wasn't Spider-Man, I was Man-Spider!
Thanks for that little bit of trivia, something I'll definitely have to look into! Your description immediately reminded me of one of the later episodes of Punisher Season 1, which did the same concept and it was awesome.
The hotel episode! One of the best.
Oh, After Party was like that. It was a good show too.
Ooh that would have been an interesting take
One of my favorite Rashomon style episodes of a show is from King of the Hill. It was "A Fire Fighting We Will Go." It was great seeing the from POV of Bill, Boomhauer, and Dale and hilarious seeing how they viewed each other and themselves.
Basically the Last Duel
Kinda like bullet train?
I haven't seen bullet train, so I can't speak to it, unfortunately
It's a 1950 film written and directed by Akira Kurosawa, who is one of the greatest filmmakers in history.
Rashomon is about three people who are discussing a murder, and have conflicting versions of events. It's fantastic, I need to watch it again.
Oh fuck, I was so confused, I read it as "Rushmore," and was expecting a Wes Anderson-style movie about Deadpool dating an older woman.
Deadpool dating Blind Al? You (don't) love to (not) see it...
Yeah that’s a interesting concept if they can pull it off.
Ryan has always expressed his love for classic cinema. This is on brand for him, remember the TCM debacle at WB
Kurasawa is a big influence for many people who work in the film industry. Im not that suprised.
Not to be a downer lol.
Trust me you aren't a downer. I'm actually studying Cinema Productions in College rn and have been on a lot of sets both indie and studio that claim to be inspired by Kurosawa, it's almost always for the better
Disney loves to throw around references to Rashomon. Throughout the marketing for The Last Jedi, they kept going on about how it was a Rashomon tale.
An episode in Punisher ss2 did use the Rashomon structure though
That would have been interesting.
I'm sure he's talked about this approach ever since Deadpool 2 released.
Well… the Last Jedi had rashomon storytelling but we know how that turned out
Ah. Very true, but I'm picturing a full on Rashomon story structure. Rather than little aspects of the rashomon story in a grander tale
This quote also triple super duper confirms this isn’t the Wolverine from Logan
I mean, he also appears to play at least two different Wolverine's just in the last trailer though.
What makes you say this?
If u watch the original teaser with just Deadpool’s voice he says something like “excited to do this with A Wolverine”
It implies that Deadpool runs into multiple
The trailer also shows a scene where Logan slowly unveils his claws and Deadpool has a gun pointed at his head
Chances are they give Deadpool a gun that has bullets that can kill Wolverine and Deadpool accidentally kills multiple wolverines while trying to recruit one of them and there’s some kind of montage. Probably like the scene in The Simpsons where Homer keeps going back in time via the Toaster and it’s just Deadpool repeatedly shooting Wolverine
Most likey Deadpool kills too many wolverines, the TVA doesn’t like this and they prune both Logan and Deadpool
The one that gets pruned is the one that features in the movie
We don’t know that all variants are played by Hugh
I’m saving this so then when the movie comes out, I’ll know who to credit for correctly guessing the plot
One Wolverine has claws coming out of his fingers, one out of the back of his hand.
Not to mention Patch in trailer 1 who may or may not be played by Jackman.
Patch is either Radcliffe or Cavil imo