From Jackson Jules’ Substack:
Book Review: Noticing: you know him through his influence
JACKSON JULES
MAY 08, 2024How does Steve Sailer do it? How did a golf-obsessed market researcher go from tracking customer purchases at grocery stores to becoming one of the most influential rightwing intellectuals in the world?
Compare and contrast Sailer with Raj Chetty. Chetty has every advantage that a social scientist could ask for. He is the William A. Ackman Professor of Public Economics at Harvard University. His genetic pedigree is impeccable; he is descended from a scholarly Tamil Nadu family. And due to his high-status position as a chaired Harvard professor, he managed to convince the IRS to give him access to their anonymized tax records, one of the most valuable data sets in the world. He employs an army of high IQ and high conscientiousness graduate students to mine his voluminous data sets for any interesting pattern they can find.
And yet: if you want to know what Chetty’s data actually says, you have to read Steve Sailer.
Chetty aimed to study the question: What is behind social mobility? Why do some places have high social mobility while others have low social mobility? The conclusions that Chetty drew from his research just-so-happened to agree with liberal pieties; he advocated for residential integration, quality education, and family support. It took Sailer’s careful eye to notice that districts of high social mobility are in majority-white places like Minnesota and Utah while districts of low social mobility are in places with larger black populations like Georgia.
Noticing is a collection of Sailer’s greatest hits from over twenty years of blogging. Sailer’s eclectic interests stretch from statistics-heavy science like computerized adaptive testing and population genetics to more average-Joe topics like the LA Dodgers and Hollywood trivia. He is best known for popularizing the phrase “human biodiversity” (HBD), which refers to the study of how groups differ in terms of physical, cognitive, and behavioral traits. HBD focuses particularly on differences between racial groups, but also examines differences related to sex, sexuality, and the variation between individuals.
Even accounting for the fact that Noticing is Sailer at his best, it’s eerie how prescient he was on so many topics that the mainstream got wrong.
“What Will Happen in Afghanistan?” (01/26/01): a review of John Huston’s 1975 film “The Man Who Would Be King”. Adapted from the Rudyard Kipling novella of the same name, “The Man Who Would Be King” is an adventure film about two ex-soldiers who find themselves embroiled in an ill-conceived nation-building project in Afghanistan. Predictably, tragedy ensues.
“Cousin Marriage Conundrum” (01/13/03): an essay on the institution of cousin marriage. In the Middle East, cousin marriage is a common practice, with an estimated 46% of marriages occurring between first or second cousins. This high prevalence of consanguineous marriages results in extended families sharing significant genetic similarities, leading to exceptionally strong family ties in these societies. The strength of these kinship bonds undermines the development of non-kinship-based institutions, such as those associated with representative democracy.
“GOP Future Depends on Winning Larger Share of the White Vote” (11/28/00): an essay outlining his recommendations for the GOP electoral strategy. He argues that instead of pursuing minority voters, the GOP should focus on attracting working-class whites to create a broad, cross-class white coalition. Sailer emphasizes the role of immigration as the key issue to unite this coalition. The essay garnered renewed attention following Donald Trump’s successful presidential campaign, which heavily featured anti-immigration rhetoric.
“Track and Battlefield” (12/31/1997): an essay co-written with sport scientist Stephen Seiler on the gender gap in sports performance. In the 90s, there was a common narrative that women were on the verge of surpassing men in sports. This narrative started due to the apparent convergence of male and female world records in track and field events. Sailer’s analysis of the data revealed that not only had this trend failed to continue into the 90s, but had actually reversed. He proposes that the reason for this reversal was that the rampant PED usage of the 80s disproportionately benefited female athletes compared to their male counterparts. So when sporting authorities cracked down on PEDs in the 90s, the crackdown had a greater impact on top-level female athletics than top-level male athletics.
“World War T” (1/22/14): an essay where he predicts that transgenderism would be the next leftwing rallying cause. Although the Supreme Court did not officially legalize gay marriage in all states until 2015, it was evident by 2014 that its legalization was inevitable. Based on then-recent coverage by the New York Times (which Sailer reads more religiously than most liberals I know), he conjectured that transgenderism would soon take the place of gay marriage as a central issue for left-wing activism.
“A Rape Hoax for Book Lovers” (12/03/14): his essay concerning the infamous UVA rape hoax. The original Rolling Stones article was over the top, featuring a three-hour long gang rape with broken glass strewn across the floor. Other than a lone blog post by Richard Bradley, there was very little doubt expressed anywhere. It wasn’t until Sailer shared Blow’s post on his own blog that the mainstream media started exhibiting skepticism as well.
This is a very impressive track record. It’s not just that he got the predictions right. He also explained exactly what ideological blindspots were stopping our establishment institutions from putting the pieces together.
How does Sailer do it?
The Steph Curry of Intellectuals
OK, “The Steph Curry of Intellectuals” is cool.
A pet hobby of mine is analyzing the strengths and weaknesses of public intellectuals in the same way that sports fans analyze the strengths and weaknesses of their favorite athletes. I’m not the only one who likes doing this. Arnold Kling occasionally runs something called the Fantasy Intellectual Teams project (a sendup to fantasy sports) where participants can draft intellectuals and compare their performance against one another.
For some public intellectuals, it’s readily apparent how they achieve success. Take Steven Pinker for example. When I first picked up a copy of The Language Instinct, it was obvious within a couple of pages that the author was one of the most verbally-gifted people on the planet. Of course, Pinker is also hardworking, intellectually curious, etc. But in the same way that it isn’t deeply mysterious to me how Shaquille O’Neal is good at basketball, it doesn’t feel too mysterious to me why Steven Pinker is a great intellectual.
How Sailer carved out a niche as a public intellectual is less clear to me. Don’t get me wrong: Steve is clearly a bright guy. While I can’t provide a source, I remember reading that he scored a 740 on the SAT Verbal section. And he got that score before the 1995-recentering, back when the SAT was a high-ceiling test and featured g-loaded questions like analogies. That ain’t bad.
To be precise, I scored 770 and 780 out of 800 on the SAT Verbal on the two times I took the SAT in the mid-1970s. Similarly, I scored 77 out of 80 on the PSAT in 1975 and 774 out of 800 on the GMAT in 1979.
As you might imagine from my subsequent career, I am a verbally bright guy.
Math not so much: 720 and 640 on the SAT. (Those were decent scores in the 1970s.) I’m good at doing arithmetic in my head, but I’m not good at the more abstract realms of math.
But loads of people have verbal IQs that high. Using an SAT-to-IQ conversion table, we can estimate that Sailer has a verbal IQ around three standard deviations above the mean. That’s really good! But in the US alone, there are over 400,000 people with IQs over 145. And based on my impressions reading him, three standard deviations above the mean sounds about right. A typical Steve Sailer blog post doesn’t involve complicated, multi-part, roman-numeral-indexed arguments like a Scott Alexander essay or the type of heavy-duty statistics you see thrown around casually by someone like Cremieux. And yet: time and time again, Sailer gets things right that other people get wrong. How?
As an intellectual, two attributes of Sailer stick out to me: his long-term memory and his non-conformity.
Long-term memory seems to be an underrated attribute for a public intellectual to possess. Memory also appears to be distinct from IQ (though the two attributes are certainly correlated). For example, Charles Murray (pre-1995 SAT Verbal score: 800) is clearly an incredible, generational verbal reasoner. However, on his Twitter, he is occasionally reminded of things that he has written about but has long forgotten (e.g., some obscure bit of data from his book Human Accomplishment). Meanwhile, Sailer remembers everything. It’s a bit of a punchline at this point for Steve to start a blogpost talking about the recent Supreme Court decision on affirmative action, only to end up reminiscing about a particularly memorable stolen base in the 7th inning of a Yankees-Red Sox game that he watched on ABC’s Monday Night Baseball back in 1974.
Long-term memory is interesting because it might be connected to the difference between crystallized intelligence and fluid intelligence. Sailer had a relatively late start to his career as a public intellectual. While he wrote sporadic op-eds for newspapers for much of his adult life, it was only when got diagnosed with non-Hodgkins lymphoma on his 38th birthday that he made the transition to being a full-time writer. Perhaps the reason why Sailer was such a late bloomer was that it took many years of noticing patterns and collecting anecdotes before he had accumulated enough crystallized intelligence to really blossom as a writer.
The other thing that stands about Sailer is his nonconformity. The importance of nonconformity for exceptional intellectual achievement is often included in models of genius (see: Jensen’s multiplicative model of genius). But even compared to other writers known for their nonconformity (e.g. Richard Hanania), Sailer’s readiness to entertain ideas that most people would consider offensive puts him in a class of his own.
But while he is certainly disagreeable, Sailer doesn’t seem to delight in trolling in the same way that someone like Hanania does. That’s not to say Sailer doesn’t have a sense of humor (as his petty retweets of Will Stancil show). But he is consistently even-keeled in his blog posts. And in interviews, he speaks in a slow, professorial tone that is barely a decibel above a whisper. He is also remarkably lacking in ego. Many successful bloggers are reluctant to comment on other people’s posts due to a fear of looking stupid or being seen engaging in behavior that’s “beneath them”. Not Sailer. You can see him reply-guying on Marginal Revolution, AstralCodexTen, Twitter—wherever his intellectual curiosity is currently being stoked.
Enough speculation. How does Sailer personally explain his success?
My basic insight is that noticing isn’t all that hard to do if you let yourself: the world actually is pretty much what it looks like, loath though we may be to admit it.
My main trick for coming up with enough insights to make a living as an unfashionable pundit for 23 years has been to assume that private life facts—what we see with our lying eyes—and public life facts—what the scientific data tells us—are essentially one and the same. There is only one reality out there. We don’t live in a gnostic universe in which there is a false reality of mundane cause-and-effect and a horrifying true reality in which unnoticeable racism determines all fates.
Maybe it really is that simple. Sailer tells us that there is no trick. You just have to learn how to believe what your lying eyes are trying to tell you. And yet we keep insisting: for real, Steve, what’s your secret?
The irony at the heart of Steve Sailer is that despite being associated with IQ-determinism, the story of his public intellectual career tells precisely the opposite story: how real-world accomplishment is inevitably the product of many traits that can interact in surprising ways.
The Dreaded Question
At this point you might be wondering: why isn’t Sailer famous? Sure, without a PhD, a cushy academic job is out of the question. But why isn’t he working at a well-regarded think tank like the Manhattan Institute, publishing articles at Quillette and the National Review?This is as good a time as any to address the dreaded question: Is Steve Sailer a racist?
There was a recent viral Twitter thread by TracingWoodgrains that touched on this question. TracingWoodgrains’s longtweet is characteristically nuanced, but ultimately he concluded: yes, if the term “racist” is to have any meaning at all, then Sailer is a racist.
I don’t disagree with Trace’s overall take, though I notice that I don’t feel the same instinctive revulsion towards Sailer’s racism. To me, Sailer seems to be more fascinated by black people than harboring strong animosity towards them. For example, consider the following quote:
In general, blacks have long done fairly well on average in fields that reward improvisational skills: jazz, running with the football, comedy, rap, etc.
Statements like this one lead his critics to accuse him of peddling old stereotypes. But what if he’s correct? What if black people really are better at freestyling than algebraic topology?
That being said, there were two chapters of the book that felt weaker than the other portions, and they are related to the racism question: the chapter on citizenism and the chapter on Obama.
The first chapter of the book is on Sailer’s concept of citizenism: that society should be designed to meet the needs of its current citizenry.
Citizenism calls upon Americans to favor the welfare, even at some cost to ourselves, of our current fellow citizens over that of foreigners and internal factions.
And Sailer carefully explains the difference between citizenism and ethnonationalism.
Nor does citizenism suffer the fatal paradox dooming the white nationalism advocated by Jared Taylor and others who encourage whites to get down and mud-wrestle with the Al Sharptons of the world for control of the racial spoils system. Unfortunately for Taylor’s movement, white Americans don’t want, as he recommends, to act like the rest of the world; they want to act like white Americans. They believe on the whole in individualism rather than tribalism, national patriotism rather than ethnic loyalty, meritocracy rather than nepotism, nuclear families rather than extended clans, law and fair play rather than privilege, corporations of strangers rather than mafias of relatives, and true love rather than the arranged marriages necessary to keep ethnic categories clear-cut.
This is a stirring vision for America. I suddenly have the urge to fire up the old grill and crack open a cold one. But upon further reflection, it feels incomplete. If citizenism is meant to embody the political philosophy stemming from WEIRD psychology, then wouldn’t that inevitably mean favoring the ethnic groups that gave rise to that philosophy in the first place? I have a hard time seeing how citizenism in any practical real-world setting would not end up being ethnonationalism with extra steps.
Uncharitably, the impression I get from the citizenism essays is that (a) Sailer has an instinct that immigration is bad, and (b) he came up with a political philosophy that justifies immigration restriction without having to fully embrace ethnonationalism. He might very well be correct that immigration is bad! But the level of argumentation in this section isn’t up to his usual standard. …
Read the whole thing there.
Has anyone examined the actual process by which Chetty was awarded this privilege? Is there some sort of carve-out for chaired professors at Harvard? Would it also be available to chaired professors at Yale or Berkeley or MIT?
Over the years, I have noticed that proponents of open borders always frame the discussion this way. Immigration Good or Immigration Bad. They don’t ever want us to discuss (for instance) how much immigration might be beneficial. And they certainly don’t want us to discuss what kind.
From now on, Steph Sailer. Nice.
Nice.
He comes off as an Obama supporter; mad that you cast aspersions. More aspersions should be cast.
The Steph Curry of Intellectuals is great and duly earned. It’s been really enjoyable getting to hear your celebration over the last few months.
Steve, I’ve been reading the blog for 17 years and I have one thought I would like to share and get on your radar. The taint of “Racism” comes from your comment section. It cannot credibly come from what you’ve written. And while I know you don’t really care, its got to annoy you – it certainly annoys me. You should shut down the comment section – or invite your superstars to a private message board if you want to get feedback. But, really, you should turn off comments and let your work speak for itself – especially now. It’s not lost on me that I’m a random guy lodging this thought in the comments section. Thanks for all you do.
You mean this isn’t the whole thing?
Huh? I topped one, if not both, of the Great Quant Steve’s math scores? I took it once, after having been up till three listening to records. Don’t know if that hurt or helped. Returning to academia after service, I was set on the Midwest, so it was the ACT that time.
One jibe I heard thrown at a high school game was “Is that [jersey number] your IQ or your sperm count?” Similarly, you might say your ACT (which topped out at 32) is higher than your opponent’s SAT. On the other hand, you get 400 points just for signing your name on the latter…
To say that I am honored would be an understatement. Thank you!
(Also: Sorry for messing up your SAT scores. I tried to find hunt down sources for most of my claims, but I couldn’t remember where in the world you mentioned them.)
What, no fundraiser paragraphs?
Interesting review. Sailer’s track record is indeed impressive. A point which is missed by both ‘citizenists’ (civic nationalists) like Trump and left-tilting folks like Jules is that immigrants must assimilate into a dominant culture in order for civic nationalism to function – as it did in the US from the 19th century through ca.1970. A dominant culture requires a majority population. Along with the general erosion of morals, the 1960s saw the enactment of two federal statutes which destroyed the dominant (white) culture and population: The civil rights law of 1964 and the Hart-Celler open-borders act of 1965. The former abolished the right of free association for whites (only) and the latter launched a campaign for their literal replacement along with fueling the noxious racial Bolshevism referred to as multiculturalism – which is straight out of the playbook of the imported Frankfurt Schul. Without assimilation, civic nationalism dies.
The point above is nothing new. The late Larry Auster was making the argument numerous times from the 1990s until his death in 2013. How much better off would the United States be today if Marcuse & Co. had been forced to remain in Germany for a certain Austrian painter and his homies to deal with? It might have only delayed the inevitable for a few decades. By now barn door has been open for way too long and all the pretty little horses have long fled their former stable – now a reeking hog wallow ruled by the likes of Orwell’s Napoleon. Like all empires, America’s run is over. Sic transit gloria mundi.
“…becoming one of the most influential rightwing intellectuals in the world?”
Rightwing? Is this a case of someone who’s so far left that anything to his right is rightwing?
I think Steve’s views align squarely to the center of the country.
Last night, I read your remarkably prescient unpublished article about sexual harassment crime from right after Clinton’s election (p. 293). After the Monica story broke, the DC pundits were saying they couldn’t believe Clinton hadn’t kept his pants on as President, as if there’d been an unspoken bargain between them, and the six years of constant other scandals said nothing about his character and his subordinates’. They could no longer cover for him, but they largely held fire until Jan 2001, Marc Rich, and stolen furniture, of all things. All was forgotten when Hillary began running in earnest, but then a shiny, new toy appeared
Great review. His Substack has started with a bang. Speaking of noticing, check out his post about Galton’s “Hereditary Genius” book.
https://jacksonjules.substack.com/p/selected-passages-from-hereditary
This post (again much about Galton) is another good one. With a guest appearance by Steve’s Twitter account.
https://jacksonjules.substack.com/p/statistics-is-more-verbal-than-mathematical
I am impressed by Steve’s observations, insights, predictions, and his writing, but a ‘great quant’ he is not. Steve absolutely provide stats and often shows clever and revealing graphs, but rigorous statistics and proper experimental design is not his wheelhouse.
As a quant he is at best a decent amateur and his best predictions do not come from rigorous, elegant, unintuitive mathematical analysis.
It never occurred to me that one might be able to distinguish someone with a 750 verbal from a person with an 800 verbal by their writing style. Does that make sense to anyone else?
High SAT scores are fine but even more important are an individual’s moral standards. Many of our Ivy League educated elites who had high SAT scores are busily destroying this country by implementing government policies that benefit them but are slowly destroying the country.
We do not need more such people. Asians are often seen as desirable citizens because they score high on SAT tests. Therefore, we should let more of them immigrate here. A Pew survey last year found that 62 percent of Asians are Democrats or lean that way whereas only 34 percent are over on the Republican side. Does it really help this country by importing more liberal anti-White Democrats?
The largest number of Asians in the continental U.S. are in California. This is a state that has sluggish economic growth and declining tax revenues. Sixty years ago mostly White California was electing the conservative Reagan to be governor. Now it elects Gavin Newsom. How did letting large numbers of Asians move there improve anything except average state SAT scores?
Steve, did you ever consider going to law school?
“RACIST” ; define terms. Better to dismiss data. JACKSON JULES cannot fail to call you that for fear the bigger leftist community will write him out of respectable intellectuals.
He doesn’t deal with Chetty’s failure to discren the menaing of his own data.
Obama; it’s the 3rd rail of America’s Left and academia. To acknowledge there are issues in his sketchy background will never be allowed. A man proud of his SAT or LSAT scores would brag. He doesn’t. There’s really no straight line from Hawaii to Occidental, Columbia and Harvard. Afirmative action, Grandpa’s connections and serious ass kissing at Harvard appear more likely than him being a intellectual giant.
And as above, not addressed; the high SAT Ivy League is right now damaging their brand beyond redemption. Not grasping Chetty and his ilk telling us their truth form on high is about to be over.
Can algebraic topology itself be freestyled? Now that’s intersectionality. This guy (I assume it’s a guy) illustrates a basic outline of the field with photos like these, though he doesn’t tell us why:
WHAT IS ALGEBRAIC TOPOLOGY?
It does look like a field in which one can space out:
Might algebraic topology even be freebased? With little empirical research, this might have to be answered a Pryori:
I’d be interested to know what the relevant standard for being a “racist” is. Does it involve believing objective facts that may be entirely true? Or is it all about having a negative emotional response towards some group?
The first definition means you have to be self-delusional about objective facts to not be a racist. The second definition means you can’t have any subjective preferences or tastes when it comes to evaluating different things. Either definition hardly warrants the calumny that goes with an accusation of “racism” these days.
When I started reading Steve, I thought, ‘here is a guy who does not try to swim upstream. He lets the information take him where it’s going.’ Not a bad philosophy for trying to understand the world as best you can.
Who is Steph Curry? I mean obviously the joke depends on an identity beyond sportsball.
20-25 years ago, Jared Taylor predicted the state’s sitting (or just-elected) governor might be the last white one, as whites had just reached minority status. This seemed wrong at the time, and turned out to be. My expectation was for a long string of increasingly pathetic white governors. And that is what we’ve seen. The best of the lot was a foreign-born bodybuilder who knocked up his very tan housemaid while in office.
Steve has said Asian immigrants tended to be slightly more conservative than their white neighbors, but due to settlement patterns, those white neighbors tended to be quite progressive. We saw something like this in the Prop. 8 vote, which carried every race except whites. (Which was itself disgraceful.)
California Asians are overwhelmingly Democrat, but are they overwhelmingly leftist? Perhaps in the sense that many have assimilated all too well!
A more productive path might be to isolate the white left and attack it as such. They are the enemies not only of normal whites, but of normal people in general, of normality itself, or “normalcy”, a word coined by a president who signed an immigration-restriction bill as soon as he took office.
Asians and Latins understand filial duty well. That the white left has declared war on their own white brethren and those brethren have a duty to their progeny to resist is a simple concept that may resonate with many of them. Hell, the white left is a threat to their own progeny as well.
OT: Interesting talk at Center for Strategic Studies by Mersheimer on how Israel is currently kinda screwed strategically. Apparently for “equal time” they are going to have Bret Stephens give a talk about Israel Uber Alles.
I would guess that part of the reason for Steve Sailer’s career lies in his adoption.
I don’t know who his biological parents were, but I imagine that his particular aptitude-profile shows up in some similar degree in his bloodline. Thus, had he been raised by the typical biological parents of a son with 780 verbal, 740 math, and outstanding long term memory, they would have recognized that the obvious career for Steve was in law. He would have been pushed that way.
As a lawyer, Steve would have filled his long term memory with case law, but moreover he would be entangled in a web of interdependence with others (partners, associates, underlings etc.) who relied on him to maintain a good reputation. He would have pressure for the sake of these, let alone ethical considerations regarding his clients, to keep his most controversial opinions at least somewhat private.
By not pushing him to become an attorney, Steve’s adoptive parents saved his brain from the mundane and shielded his character from social pressures.
It supposedly happened in the kitchen
I attack you all the time all up in this bitch
Thank God for pentominoes!
Nah.
Monday Night Baseball was not a thing in 1974 and Steve is more likely to talk about the Dodgers than anyone else, but I feel these tangents make the blog stronger. While Steve is a fan of his, I am quickly finding the writing of Scott Alexander Siskind to be tedious. It’s like Siskind is putting us on and has become self-parody, while Steve is the real deal.
Much like Spock when dealing with full humans.
Algemein Topology
The most interesting I.Q.-related thing to me right now is the fact that so many high-I.Q. people believe totally moronic narratives because of conformity instincts. They recognize what they need to pretend to believe, and then they believe it. And here we are in Clown World. And I think some high-I.Q. people tend to outsource for their opinions on most things so they can concentrate on their interests. Their dependance on corrupted “expertise” sets them up to embrace a lot of stupidity.
Two news events happened while Steve was asleep but appear to be in his wheelhouse…
During a congressional hearing, Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) got into a verbal scuffle with Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) in which they insulted each other’s appearance, with Mrs. Greene implying that Miss Crockett couldn’t read because her fake eyelashes were in the way. The men who part of the hearing were visibly uncomfortable, as I would have been.
Two-time Masters Champion Scottie Scheffler was arrested this morning on his way to the PGA Championship in Louisville for disregarding a police officer who he thought was a parking attendant. He made bail and is golfing today. Scheffler’s first and middle names are Scott Alexander, just like one of Steve’s favorite bloggers. Also, Scheffler is a New Jersey native, growing up in Montvale, an upper-middle class suburb where the Garden State Parkway connects to Rockland County, New York. He left when he was in elementary school, however, as his parents were spooked by 9/11.
Thanks. Mearscheimer’s talk from before the SMO has been totally vindicated and, thanks to the US government, will receive a double vindication.
It appears that in Jackson Jules, Steve now has his Boswell: someone who seems to “get” the author on his own terms.
Steve, see if you can convince Jules to write _Life of Sailer_.
Racist is Yiddish for White
Conclusion:
Reading “about Steve Sailer” isn’t as interesting as reading Steve Sailer.
Yes, book reviews are great, recognition is long overdue, etc.
Just don’t get used to it…
There has been an increasing tendency to simply equate human value with intelligence — as if intelligence were the only quality to be taken into account when judging a man.
It wasn’t always this way. In The Song of Roland, the eponymous hero doesn’t need to be intelligent; he is good, so God will tell him what to do. His outstanding qualities are loyalty, self-sacrifice, knightly valor, piety.
It’s his enemy, the dastardly Moor, who needs to think. God’s not going to help him out.
This attitude continued until rather recently; see the traditional British suspicion of those who were to ‘brainy’ — and the objection to those who had ‘no bottom.’ I was reminded of this when I considered what I didn’t like about Obama (besides his being a Mulatto). No bottom: if you want to understand what that means, consider Obama. Compare and contrast, say, to Robert E Lee, who may or may not have been especially brilliant, but whose outstanding qualities were his moral ones. Who was the greater man? Is it even close?
Even worse than the emphasis on intelligence is the straight-line equivalence between intelligence and IQ. Of course there’s a strong correlation — but it’s not as simple as that.
Mozart, for example, was obviously one of the greatest geniuses of recorded history — if you can’t hear that, you’re deaf. Of course, he seems to have been a genius by virtue of ‘thinking’ in terms of music: I imagine his thoughts were sound.
Mighty fine — but how well would he have done on an IQ test? Who should we admire more? Mozart — or some corporate lawyer who can hammer out a 163 on the ol’ Stanford-Binet? Mozart and Robert E Lee would be an interesting question, but surely the lawyer doesn’t even come close — whatever his IQ.
“ Steve has said Asian immigrants tended to be slightly more conservative than their white neighbors, but due to settlement patterns, those white neighbors tended to be quite progressive. ”
In their lifestyles, yes. In isolated social-issue ballot initiatives, maybe.
But almost everywhere else, whites vote more conservatively than Asians.
‘Reading “about Steve Sailer” isn’t as interesting as reading Steve Sailer.’
Trūfact. Most interesting thinkers lead mundane lives. Investing in Steve Sailer’s ludicrously priced $400 patrician edition is far more intere$ting viz my retirement. I hope🤞
Center for Strategic Studies ? No, it’s the Austrian Centre for Independent Studies.
OT:
Permanent Washington — and their Five Eyes, NATO and EU flunkies — have done a remarkable job, haven’t they?
Scheffler’s family moved to Dallas when he was six. He considers himself a Texan and still lives in Dallas.
The story makes the Louisville PD look terrible, players were directed to disregard the line and another officer was waving Scheffler into the parking area in his well marked courtesy car. Dragging him out of his car, arresting him and making him take a mug shot in an orange jump suit was pure spite. It will be interesting to see if the politicians are willing to do the right thing and get all this dismissed quickly. Something tells me they won’t.
I propose the disagreement be settled honorably through Trial by Mudwrestling.
It’s a quirk of marinating in Globohomo modrenity that oftentimes those who are racially aware are also the least supportive of the implications of their awareness. They shy from the logic of their own Noticing, because they have imbibed the false nostrums of their age and consequently fear the social shunning or status tumble that would come with accepting and embracing the full breadth and depth of their perspicacity. This gives their observations the oddly off-putting patina of unemotional detachment punctuated by equally unsettling outbursts zealously defending the enemy’s abhorrent morality.
To put it plainly, ethnonationalism (blood n soil) is the past and the future. The present interregnum in this foundational aspect of human-ness is an unnaturally imposed condition by malevolent, avaricious ruling trash and their grip on the worldwide megaphone, whose reign is blessedly coming to a close.
“Citizenism” was always a temporary blip in the sweep of human sorting, and its internal contradictions are finally coming to a head.
Steve is in rearguard mode, and he knows it. And that’s his biggest failing. He is not honest with himself, so he cannot be honest with his readers.
Meanwhile, P. Diddy has been caught laying the pimp hand down on one of his uppity ho’s, as they say.
Question: Why has American Black Pimpery always been celebrated in their Hollywood depictions since the blaxploitation films of the ’70’s? Since then, everybody, white or black, laughs and nods to the ass-kickin’ black pimp takin’ care o’ bidness…
Seiler is not just your fictional alter ego?
In the year 2000, Steve Sailer Had An Article Banned By Internet Site Free Republic.
Has Steve Sailer Ever Been Banned In Boston? If not, why not?
Steve Sailer wrote in January of 2001:
https://vdare.com/articles/banned-by-free-republic
Before the September 11, 2001 Islamic Terrorist Attacks there were people and internet sites who would not tolerate the discussion of racial and ancestral voter demographics. The Baby Boomer coward morons and some of the other pre-Boomer geezers didn’t have the guts to face the demographic future of the United States.
White Identity Politics Is The Future
Whites Will Win If They Want It
WHITEY ROW YOUR BOAT ASHORE, HALLELUJAH!
EXPLICIT WHITE IDENTITY POLITICS NOW!
Tweet from 2014:
Steve’s verbal IQ clearly is somewhere in the 155 to 160 range (between one out of 10,000 and one out of 30,000) or maybe a little higher. An IQ of 145 means roughly one out of a thousand, which is clearly too low (and probably includes most of the commenters on this blog). See here for the conversion chart:
https://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/iqtable.aspx
Baby Boomer Boob Neil Young and his croaky, Canadian complaining about ‘Southern Man’ can go jump in the Arctic Ocean.
Sailer, and many, many other people noticed that the SOUTHERN STRATEGY succeeds, so they suggested quite strongly that if it succeeds, then use it.
Other strategies ain’t so shabby, either…
The AUNT JEMIMA STRATEGY is to win the votes of Black lady voters in the South and other areas of high Black population concentration. Hillary Clinton used the AUNT JEMIMA STRATEGY to fend of Bernie Sanders in the 2016 Democrat Party presidential primary campaign. Biden used the AUNT JEMIMA STRATEGY to win the Democrat Party presidential nomination in 2020.
Tweet from 2015:
The GERMAN STRATEGY and the AUNT JEMIMA STRATEGY are the bedrock foundation of American presidential politics.
Political experts are all very familiar with the AUNT JEMIMA STRATEGY and the GERMAN STRATEGY.
GERMAN STRATEGY explained:
The GERMAN STRATEGY is to win the votes of German Americans in the Great Lakes states in combination with the votes of Anglo-Celts in the Southern states. In 2016, Trumpy put the cherry on top of the GERMAN STRATEGY by winning Florida with the votes of Anglo-Celts in the Northern portion of Florida in combination with the votes of the Florida snowbirds from the Great Lakes states and the Northeast.
The basic mistake of the Obama/Biden War On Whiteness is that the Democrat Party ruling class never thought a Republican Party presidential candidate would combine the SOUTHERN STRATEGY with the GERMAN STRATEGY to win the presidency.
In 2016, Trump won the votes of the Anglo-Celts in the Southern states and he won the votes of Americans of German ancestry in the Great Lakes WOMP states — Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania.
Trump implicitly appealed to Whites as Whites by using the issues of immigration, trade and national identity to win White votes away from the Democrat Party. Trump not only denied the Democrat Party these White votes in crucial Electoral College states, he won them for himself. No other Republican Party candidate could have done this.
American politics is going to be all race all the time from here on out. European Christian Americans; White Core Americans; Whitey; I don’t care what you call them, as long as race and ancestry take center stage.
Trump was the wrecking ball that installed WHITE IDENTITY POLITICS as the focus of all future politics in the United States.
In 2020, Trump Told White Voters To Screw Off And White Voters Told Trump To Go To Hell
In 2020, White Male Voters Without College Degrees Gave Trump The Double Bird
In 2020, White Male Voters With College Degrees Said Screw You To Trump
Tweet from 2021:
Monday Night Baseball was a thing in the 1970’s first on NBC then ABC.
So what? The fact is, those extra steps matter. White people want them.
About a month or so ago we had a thread of famous living old people. I am saddened that I neglected to include Dabney Coleman (92) on the list as he certainly qualified. However, he no longer qualifies as of today.
I quite agree. No one ever says what is necessary or sufficient to be a racist. How are down this list do you have to go:
1. High-end blacks on average are better than high-end whites at basketball.
2. High-end whites on average are better than high-end blacks at algebraic topology.
3. More whites than blacks like kale.
4. Blacks have higher self-esteem than whites
5. Blacks on average commit more crime than whites.
6. Blacks on average commit more crime than whites because they are black.
7. I prefer Salt Lake City to Detroit.
8. Blacks should not have the same rights as whites.
9. Blacks should be deported.
Surely 9 is racist, and in my view rightly condemned. Is 1 racist? It certainly shouldn’t be considered objectionable, and is a view held by at least 99 percent of whites and blacks.
I think the point is that you can look at Shaq and confidently guess he’s good at basketball whereas Steph is probably the least obviously MVP caliber player since Steve Nash.
“IQ has both a direct effect on the probability of inventing which is almost five times as large as that of having a high-income father, and an indirect effect through education” [PDF]
NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH
1050 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02138
December 2017
This project owes a lot to early discussions with Raj Chetty, Xavier Jaravel and John Van Reenen
when we were embarking on two parallel projects, them on US inventors and us on Finnish
inventors
https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w24110/w24110.pdf
Steve:
Jackson Jules:
Have to say Jackson’s complaint seems really weak to me.
Citizenism does not seem contrived but rather axiomatic to me. Of course, the government is supposed to have policies that benefit its citizens.
Even the immigration zealots tacitly acknowledge this. While they mostly toss out schmaltz and “who we are!’ finger waging, they do continually broadcast that “immigration benefits Americans”, Openly ridiculous and logically false, but is at least a nod to the idea that public policy really is supposed to serve the citizens.
Isn’t the whole point of “democratic” politics the idea that citizens get to make the government serve their interests instead of the usual looters (kings, nobles, aristocrats, dictators, oligarchs, etc.). Doesn’t the whole argument for “democracy” pre-suppose citizenism–that the citizens interests are what ought to triumph?
Beyond citizenism there is no principle other than ethno-nationalism or the raw self-interest of grasping elites–what the West has now.
“I propose the disagreement be settled honorably through Trial by Mudwrestling.”
Yes, but the No Nails protocol should be rigidly applied. Hairpulling is allowed, however.
The gals from Fernie! I’ve posted that squad before. Maybe that very same photo.
“they do continually broadcast that “immigration benefits Americans””
Unless the immigration is facilitated by a Dastardly Foreign Power, in which case it loses its magic diverse power.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/17/putin-is-seeking-to-weaponise-threat-of-ukraine-mass-migration-says-estonian-pm
I think “they weaponise this with human rights” means they are applying Rules For Radicals Rule #4.
“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals#The_Rules
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaja_Kallas#Husband’s_business_scandal
“In August 2023, the media reported that Kallas’s husband, Arvo Hallik, had a 24.9% share in the transportation company Stark Logistics, which had continued to transport raw materials to Russia following the Russian invasion of Ukraine, despite Kallas having previously called for Estonian companies to cease operations in Russia”
It *was* a thing in 1974, but it was on NBC, not ABC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Major_League_Baseball_on_NBC#Monday_Night_Baseball_(1972%E2%80%9375)
What does the term “Racism” mean to you?
On what grounds do you consider that “Racism” to be Bad?
Eh I agree, but I’ll let Steve bask in his newfound celebrity. These are the accolades he should have been given for decades if not for the state religion anathematizing him. It’s a well-deserved victory lap.
What does “verbal intelligence” even mean? That someone is good at memorizing words?
Just FYI: Jackson’s post links to your World War T essay, which I had not looked at in a while. So I clicked on it and noticed something unfortunate. Back then Taki’s articles were often spread over multiple pages, and you needed to click on a sizeable “Next page” link to get from one page to the next. But when I look at the article now the “Next page” link is tiny and could easily be overlooked, leaving readers with the impression that the article ends abruptly, nd without any satisfactory wrap-up. You might want to let Taki’s tech people know about this.
Agreed. The comment section has had it’s day.
Off topic but:
Nancy Pelosi’s husband attacker receives a 30 year sentence in California.
Per Mother Google re: ave. sentence for murder in California:
How long is the average murder sentence?
By offense type, the median time served was 17.5 years for murder,
How many years do you get for murder in California?
A conviction for first-degree murder in California carries a sentence of up to 25 years in state prison.
Though Paul Pelosi was badly injured and attacked at home, this perp didn’t kill anyone.
Per the news, noise was made about Pelosi’s home being that of a “government official” (who mostly lived in DC and wasn’t home) and the the victim was elderly, etc.
This perp was/is crazy but that is normally a somewhat free pass in Cali due to the love for their vast population of mentally ill crazies roaming their streets and byways.
Why does this nut get a harsher sentence than an outright murder?
Maybe someone can explain that…?
Are any singers from the 1950s still around, other than Brenda Lee, Gayla Peevey (aka Jamie Horton), and Barry Gordon, who were kids at the time? Brian Hyland, too, though his second song and first hit didn’t come out till 1960. We lost Jimmy Boyd in 2009, and Frankie Lyman way back in 1968.
Kim Novak is 91. She has stories to tell:
The attacker is Canadian isn’t he? Typical.
So they can brag that they are indeed tough on illegal aliens? They just had to find a white one.
OT — Because anonymous online lunchtime rowdies are now much more reliable than mainstream sources, here’s some great news from Ireland, which has been a reliable source of good news lately.
Anon said:
News:
>Confrontations continue between local protesters and workers preparing a field for asylum plantation in Clonmel. Local travellers have joined the protest. Reports emerging now that Irish workers have abandoned the site. A fire broke out at the protesters with camp, unconfirmed reports of machinery also set on fire and security guard assaulted.
>Thousands of male migrants set to be housed in tents at a site formerly earmarked for a new prison at Thornton Hall, North.Co Dublin.
>In Newtownmountkennedy, security guard at the plantation centre has been hospitalised after a brawl with migrants. Further local protests planned in the coming weeks.
>Modular homes for migrants have been brought in at 5am last night in the village of Coole, Westmeath
>Antifa lunatic arrested after threatening to kill Malachy Steenson, anti-immigration MEP candidate.
>Over 90 tents now pitched along the grand canal in Dublin
>Two thirds say they want a more closed immigration system according to recent poll. 38% say they’re more likely to vote for an anti-immigration candidate
>Local and European elections three weeks away
Map of anti-immigration candidates running in the local elections:
> https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/idxxl/8/
Are you one of these people who did not instantly understand what that was? Are you under the impression that Peter Buck kept happening upon dead black men because he lived in a black neighborhood?
Well, okay, he’s a quant interpreter, and explainer. A bridge to the masses. More mortar than brick. That can be as important as the research itself.
Yeah. That was a dumb thing to say. “Citizenism,” as I understand it, just means a democratic government should act in the best interests of its citizens. The real critique of this theory should be that it’s so mundane and obvious that it should go without saying. Of course, what amount or type of immigration benefits the nation’s current citizens is a separate policy debate — why that debate would inevitably result in “ethnonatioalism” is a mystery. (Another mystery: If “ethnonationalism” maximizes the benefits of the current citizen population why is it a bad thing?)
OTOH, Having opined that immigration policy should benefit citizens, Steve has gone AWOL on why the current regime is pursuing an open borders policy that is against the interests (and certainly the desires) of current citizens.
My theory is that the Deep State (for whom senile Biden is merely a front) simply want to maximize the gross population and GDP under their control — all the better to control the world and expand the tax revenue available for funding this project. In other words, the Deep State (contrary to American citizens) wants a big nation, not a high-quality nation.
The Great White Defendant from the Great White North messed with anti-White oligarchs on their home turf.
The taint of “Racism” comes from your comment section.
More than a taint, it’s completely around the world.
You claim knowledge of Steve. Are you aware of his interest in Richard Hanania’s proposed mask factory in Pacoima? Expect a wave of terror in the San Fernando Valley if that factory becomes operational. Lots of duplicate Richard Hanania faces appearing in Valley neighborhoods at night, peering into windows.
“My main trick for coming up with enough insights to make a living as an unfashionable pundit for 23 years has been to assume that private life facts—what we see with our lying eyes—and public life facts—what the scientific data tells us—are essentially one and the same. There is only one reality out there.”
Except there is a fundamental flaw in this explanation— it neglects to account for confirmation bias. This, reality can be manufactured.
Case in point—Jews seek to exterminate whites.
Yeah, anyone who thinks that is just ignoring the data.
“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel…. In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money…. This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew…. Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat… That is why gentiles were created.” -Ovadia Yosef
“To put it plainly, ethnonationalism (blood n soil) is the past and the future”
According to Who/Whom? What makes you think mass numbers of whites are going to join forces in the name of Team White, when they have hostility toward one another politically and socially?
I’m afraid you are the one out of touch with reality.
The Marc Rich pardon scandal was perhaps the most clear-cut proof of Clintons merely being pay-for-play puppets. Pay them enough, and they’ll do anything. After that, the whole Clinton Foundation pay-for-play stuff was predictable.
Whenever people bring up Bill Clinton’s greatness, and I want to contradict, I don’t bring up Lewinsky or Whitewater or Juanita Brodderick or the Clinton Foundation — I use the Marc Rich thing. Its devastating because its so cut and dry and one of the few scandals the Clintons didn’t manage to cover up, kill off, or else drag off into murkiness, boredom, and denialism. Heck, I recall even the p*do-communists at Salon mentioning Marc Rich and asking in one article “Maybe everything the Republicans said about Clinton was right?”
N.B. One of the errand boys/ go-betweens on the Marc Rich bribe was….Eric Holder. Yup, the future contemptuous AG of the USA was a bagman/mesenger for one of Clinton’s most stark scandals. And for Holder, it was pay for play: he was a go-between in return for being made AG later.
The Deep State is corrupt.
I’d pay good money to see both of them naked.
“both ‘citizenists’ (civic nationalists) like Trump”
Trump pretends to be a civic nationalist. Remember, everything he does is transactional.
“A dominant culture requires a majority population.”
We do. They are called Americans.
“The civil rights law of 1964”
Which preserved the rule of law.
Do you think Steve engages in confirmation bias?
Steve’s parents noticed his iconoclastic tendencies in the cradle and decided to pass him off as adopted to save their own reputations. They got the idea from a staple plot point of mid-century fiction.
It’s odd that “iconic” has become ubiquitous at the same time the once-popular “iconoclastic” has completely fallen from fashion, in life and art.
lol. Corby, baby, I missed you. Did you join Harry Sissy Sisson at the White House to bow before Not-Real-President Biden?
Or did Mr. Soros not spring for the airfare?
lol.
That one’s easy to call:
I definitely want Marjorie in the next administration.
…preferably as Vice-Presidentrix. After all, Trump may have a heart attack…and wouldn’t you really want to see what she would do?
Now, that’s scary.
I love how many people comment confidently on things when a little research or common sense proves they are wrong.
I am sure Chetty would endorse Steve’s empiricism in his quote below but Diogenes wouldn’t need a laser to pick out the man who’s being honest with himself.
Our ruling classes, throughout the Western world have no interest in Citizenism.
The “taint of racism” is the discouerie of witchcraft.
Seems of a piece with the sentences handed down to the January 6th protestors and the response to the anti-Israel protests.
Is there something about this that’s hard to understand?
“Do you think Steve engages in confirmation bias?”
Yes. Everyone does to some degree. I would say he is not immune to it.
As a person with far less understanding of math and statistcs than even Steve, I wish you’d explain to me how many incidents of a certain type I’d have to witness before I can draw a rational conclusion. For example, I have witnessed three different persons smoking cigarettes directly in front of or across from a “No Smoking” sign. All 3 were black. Does this mean John McWhorter was correct when he wrote (in 2000), “black people seem to feel the rules don’t apply to us”?
No.
Articulate.
Evaluating bias and noise induced by the U.S. Census Bureau’s privacy protection methods
Christopher T. Kenny (1), Cory McCartan (2), Shiro Kuriwaki (3), Tyler Simko (1), Kosuke Imai (1,4)
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adl2524
SCIENCE ADVANCES 1 May 2024 Vol 10, Issue 18
Abstract
The U.S. Census Bureau faces a difficult trade-off between the accuracy of Census statistics and the protection of individual information. We conduct an independent evaluation of bias and noise induced by the Bureau’s two main disclosure avoidance systems: the TopDown algorithm used for the 2020 Census and the swapping algorithm implemented for the three previous Censuses. Our evaluation leverages the Noisy Measurement File (NMF) as well as two independent runs of the TopDown algorithm applied to the 2010 decennial Census. We find that the NMF contains too much noise to be directly useful without measurement error modeling, especially for Hispanic and multiracial populations. TopDown’s postprocessing reduces the NMF noise and produces data whose accuracy is similar to that of swapping. While the estimated errors for both TopDown and swapping algorithms are generally no greater than other sources of Census error, they can be relatively substantial for geographies with small total populations.
1) Department of Government, Harvard University.
2) Center for Data Science, New York University.
3) Department of Political Science and Institution for Social and Policy Studies, Yale University.
4) Department of Statistics, Harvard University.
Japan was set to join Five Eyes.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/japan-could-join-aukus-program-209848
But China Japan and Korea Summit is also set to take place
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2024/05/15/japan/politics/japan-china-south-korea-summit-to-focus-on-cooperation/
Let’s hear some more “japs” “gooks” “yellow whatever” dropped around here.
Many of Steve Sailer’s commenters might as well be CCP paid trolls.
This is untrue. Deranged twitterites aside, all Sailer’s detractors have managed to come up with to brand him a racist was his suggestion that Louisiana’s “Let The Good Times Roll” motto may not be very beneficial for blacks to adopt as their modus vivendi. Besides, anyone that delves on the topic of race is bound to be smeared as a racist by some partisan no matter what they say.
The comments section is an integral part of Sailer’s blog and I guarantee you its popularity would tank if he were to turn comments off. It might have made sense in Takimag, whose comments section was full of spammers, basement dwellers and a few actual racists, but the comments here are often on par with the posts themselves in terms of quality.
You miss that the most thuggish commenters are also the ones who constantly whine about Steve not being white nationalist/conspiratorial/anti-Jew enough. Sure, they can be annoying, but they also make Steve look more reasonable by comparison. And a lot of the regulars are high quality too. So the comments should stay.
Bigger issue is the rest of the site is full of wacko stuff, which makes Steve look like just another wacko to the untrained eye. But hey, Unz looooves wackos (ironically, a very Jewish trait!) and eccentric wealthy benefactors with programming chops don’t grow on trees.
OT — By all means, let them talk.
If they do not, ethnonationalism will still be the future, but that future just will not include Whites.
Good one, I’m propagating it.
Well. That and. The ones that wouldn’t, we don’t want saved anyway.
Neutralize the power of white liberals, and most problems would be quickly solved.
Same reason J6 protesters got years in prison for walking through an open door. Same reason Trump is on trial for made up crimes. Wherever it’s controlled by Democrats, the Justice System is used as a corrupt weapon to protect them and prosecute their enemies.
DePape was tried under 18 USC 115 in a federal court. Federal courts generally view such crimes from national security perspective unlike the usual state criminal statutes. In this case, DePape’s assault resulted in Nancy Pelosi quitting Congress and politics. That is considered more consequential than an ordinary crime. If DePape had assaulted someone in Portland, our DA would have probably asked for a year or two.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/david-depape-sentenced-after-conviction-assault-and-attempted-kidnapping-charges
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/115
(((Daniel Melnick))) was who made the pimp in Scorsese’s Taxi Driver a white character.
Schrader’s shading the truth there. The pimp was made white so that the audience knows they’re allowed to hate him. Blacks are sacred.
Congrats on yet another positive review, Steve. After reading the first three paragraphs, I realized, “Hey I plan on reviewing him, too, once my copy comes in the mail, but if I keep on reading this and other reviews, I’ll come off like a plagiarist, or a bot.” So, I stopped.
While I’m sure I’ve already read every piece in your new book two or three times, I look forward to reading them again, but maybe just one more time.
Thanks so much, Reg. Oddly, the interviewer opens by engaging in indirect quotations for the longest, before he increasingly quotes her directly.
I’m a big fan of Novak the actress, and I even like her as a person, but whenever she mentions Harry Cohn, I take what she says with a grain of salt. Here, she calls him “a monster,” but she earlier called him her guardian angel (paraphrasing).
In my favorite Novak performances (Vertigo and In the Middle of the Night), she played a girl who needed a man to overwhelm her. I got the impression that she wasn’t just acting.
The end of the interview left me queasy. Has she contemplated taking her horse and leaping off the side of a mountain?
Also, it provided a role for Harvey Keitel, who had already played with Scorsese and De Niro in Mean Streets. And Harvey, a Korean War vet, is pretty awesome.
Nancy Pelosi quit Congress and politics?
Who knew?
To no one’s surprise, the organized group attacking UCLA protesters has ties to the Moussad. Will anyone notice that it’s not just a spontaneous uprising by “gold chain” men from the San Fernando Valley? Will anyone notice that law enforcement is giving these law breakers the “Ray Epps treatment.”
We nowadays know the US nuclear codes but not the first thing about Obama’s grades.
Cold Turkey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_Turkey_(1971_film)
An elderly man was attacked in his own house by a maniac. Why shouldn’t the attacker get a severe punishment?
Brilliant comment.
It is also very interesting how intelligent people regurgitate aphorisms in support of their tenuous positions. Many of these phrases seem to be little more than what might be seen on a bumper sticker such as: No one can tell a woman what to do with her body. It’s clear they haven’t really thought out a cogent argument in support of abortion.
Particularly entertaining are the attempts to support a DIE infrastructure which always falls apart on the details such as which minority gets special treatment. To paraphrase a Steve-ism, this is when the coalition of the fringes forms a circular firing squad.
Thanks.
Obama told a biographer in 2011 that he averaged a B+ at Occidental and an A- at Columbia.
That sounds reasonable.
That’s why res is around!
Per Ian Poulter, Scheffler was doing exactly what he was supposed to be doing.
Boss, I don’t think anyone is saying he should have walked away. Colin seems to be pointing out that an awful lot of violent crime is just kind of hand-waved.
Oh so your just another weak White cuck. 👌
“Same reason J6 protesters got years in prison for walking through an open door. Same reason Trump is on trial for made up crimes.”
JFC, just stop embarrassing yourself. The J6 protesters put themselves in legal harm’s way. Besides, I thought white people as a race are more likely to take responsibility for their actions.
And why do you think Trump hired fixers like Cohen? Recall Trump’s shady real estate deals? Remember, everything for him is transactional.
“Wherever it’s controlled by Democrats, the Justice System is used as a corrupt weapon to protect them and prosecute their enemies”
Replace “Democrats” with “vengeful politicians” and you would be accurate. It’s both political parties, my friend.
LOL, so you rely on one point of view and claim it represents all Jewish perspectives.
It’s complex. I understand you have difficulties comprehending challenging concepts, but hopefully this source can help you.
https://jacobin.com/2024/01/shaul-magid-interview-zionism-anti-zionism-judaism-history
High trust societies require that most people naturally follow “the rules”.
In hindsight, it was probably a bad idea to let an inbred, foreign, demon people start making “the rules”.
What is your evidence?
Yes, morals matter. What distinguishes Sailer from other high-foreheads on HBD and crime is that he MENTIONS what he NOTICES
Now, about who controls the levers of power, and the acceptable narratives…
As a long time fan of Peter Buck (R.E.M. guitarist), I hope you meant “Ed Buck.”
Boiling off the whites who have no solitary is a feature not a bug. We don’t need to have large numbers, just unified belief and purpose. Look at the many larger groups the British Empire ruled.
Whites are not going to disappear . The hard boiled lot that survives will not be friendly to those that betrayed them.
From:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-house-speaker-pelosi-address-her-future-thursday-2022-11-17/
My point is that it’s pretty obvious that those acts which threaten the establishment in some way meet with a ferocious response at the same time that even the grossest illegality that doesn’t is partially or entirely ignored or even condoned. You just observed that yourself with the UCLA counter-demonstrators — and of course Black Bullshit Matters demonstrated the truth of this on a massive scale.
At the same time, my recollection of the attack on Nancy Pelosi’s husband is that (a) there was some question as to how the attacker came to be in the house to begin with, (b) Pelosi wasn’t seriously harmed, and (c) the perpetrator was some sort of deranged vagrant. It all sounds like the sort of thing that would normally lead to a remand to the mental health authorities and confinement in a mental hospital — not thirty years in prison.
That it was thirty years instead, while not exactly an outrage, does correspond to the ferocious response January 6th and the anti-Israel demonstrations both met with. We are coming to live in a society where it’s not what you do, it’s who you annoyed. I can burn buildings, attack people, throw rocks, bottles, and molotov cocktails — all with impunity. That’s if I attack the right people. Otherwise, I can’t walk through an open door or stage a peaceful demonstration.
A theist is a person who believes God is real, an atheist doesn’t believe God is real.
A racist is fundamentally a person who believes race is real and the overwhelming majority of humans are racist. Try to find a black person or an Asian who sincerely think race doesn’t exist. Even people who promote themselves by parroting the official lie will simultaneously tell you race doesn’t exist and, by the way, the white race is evil.
In the end almost everyone “notices” as much as Steve does, it’s just that most people shut up about it out of self-preservation instead of building a career out of it.
“How did letting large numbers of Asians move there improve anything except average state SAT scores?”
Easy. They helped to build our railroads, they have great laundry/tailoring services, they make delicious food, and their women make for great mates (just ask John Derbyshire and Mitch McConnell). Or are they anti-white because of what they done to his race?
Ha. Sure, I love reading Glen Greenwald. That Norman Finkelstein sure is righteous sometimes. But 97% of Israel supports Bibi’s actions in Gaza, Bibi is the leader of Israel, and Bibi considered Ovadia his religious mentor. Ovadia’s funeral was nearly a million strong–the largest in the Jewish state’s history–and all of Israel’s most importance leaders were in attendance. His views were not fringe. And you are in impotent deflection mode. Lol.
When Keitel enlisted at age 17, it had been 3 years since the Panmunjom armistice. Close.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1995/09/13/dark-side-of-the-actor-harvey-keitel-plumbing-the-depths-of-the-soul/2d7c6a94-43ba-4f32-983c-d1c8657ae70a/
Oh, and Keitel is the #4 most connected actor.
https://oracleofbacon.org/center_list.php
Thanks. Yes, I agree. But it does raise the question of how an “intelligent” person leads his life. Isn’t the intelligent thing to get ahead in this life? The type of people you are talking about are able to navigate their way through political/cultural debates by throwing out catch-phrases that represent the narrative they must support to thrive in society. They don’t even have to think about the issues much, so they are free to spend more mental energy on inside trading, pushing poisonous drugs for Big Pharma, securing tenure, etc. Could it be that all-around “noticers” have a stronger instinctive desire to protect their children and their entire bloodline from a catastrophic future caused by not noticing?
Boebert > than Crockett + Greene
“I scored 770 and 780 out of 800 on the SAT Verbal on the two times I took the SAT in the mid-1970s.”
Nice, nice! I scored an 800 by empathizing with the test creators, not by ingenuously choosing my preffered answer.
Not Korean War. Born in 1939, he was too young for that. He did join the US Marines and land in Lebanon in 1958.
“Neutralize the power of white liberals, and most problems would be quickly solved.”
What are your final solutions?
Regarding Robert E. Lee’s intelligence, he had (and still has, well, see PS) the second highest graduation score ever at West Point. He was also second in his class.
What is interesting is this particular fact appears on Charles Mason’s (first overall and in 1829) short Wikipedia page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Mason_(Iowa_judge)
While Lee’s much longer Wikipedia page mentions he was second in his class, but not that he is also second all time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee#Early_life_and_education
In case any one is curious (as I was) Douglas MacArthur’s even longer Wikipeda page does mention that he was the third highest scorer all time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_MacArthur#Early_life_and_education
Have to love Wikipedia’s objectivity. /s
This excellent answer gives details of Lee’s score (from Freeman’s biography) and the scoring process.
https://history.stackexchange.com/a/59488
This page lists the whole class of 1829 by class rank, but no scores given.
https://civilwartalk.com/threads/%CE%A9-west-point-class-of-1829.181332/
P.S. Interestingly I see claims of others scoring higher on the net. All the mentions seem to reference this page
https://web.archive.org/web/20130825223527/http://www.westpointaog.org/page.aspx?pid=3682
which in turn references a 1949 booklet titled the Honors Register. Anyone here know the truth and/or have a source for that booklet?
According to that, this is the highest scorer (mentioned on his page).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Hale
This book mentions the 1949 Honors Register and notes MacArthur was 39th from 1821-1949.
Here is the booklet at WorldCat. Only copy shown is at West Point. I don’t see it available for sale anywhere. I also don’t see any copy with contents online.
Honors register : graduates of the United States Military Academy who were credited with 90%, or above, of their respective course maxima — in order of merit
https://search.worldcat.org/title/423393246
Another mention.
https://usma.primo.exlibrisgroup.com/discovery/fulldisplay?vid=01USMA_INST:Scout&search_scope=MyInst_and_CI&tab=Everything&docid=alma991009089169705711&context=L&virtualBrowse=true
My bad, Peter Buck’s a good guy.
That he was tried in federal court is the scandal. He was guilty of burglary, common assault, and unlawful armament. You could argue unlawful imprisonment as well. All of these are offenses which can be handled in state court. Had Nancy Pelosi been assaulted at work, it would have been proper to prosecute that in federal court. She wasn’t.
Thanks! Immediately following your quote: “Finally, the impact of IQ is larger and more convex for inventors than for medical doctors or lawyers.”
This is a Finnish study. IQ data is usually difficult to get. Here is how they handled that. Note the visuospatial focus (why is that not more commonly tested for in the US?).
Here is footnote 7.
This summarizes their variables.
The variables are less granular than I would have expected/hoped. I wonder why they did this when they have actual percentiles.
Figure 6 gives invention probability vs. visuospatial IQ percentile (by 1% bins it appears). Given what was seen in the SMPY I wonder what a finer grained look at the top 1% would reveal.
The regression model coefficients are in Table 1. With the top 5% IQ lumped as described earlier. Worth noting that the invention prob. in figure 6 is 50% higher for the top 1% than for the 95th and 96th percentile groups.
Summary statistics are in Table B2. There are 347,914 non-inventors and 4,754 inventors in the sample.
Figure B10 looks at parental income vs. v-s IQ percentile. Perhaps the most interesting point there is the extreme outlier for 99th percentile mother’s income at about 48% vs-IQ vs. about 67% for the rest of the high percentile mother’s income groups. Any ideas what is going on there?
Table C6 has a regression including verbal and analytic IQ as well as visuospatial IQ. The verbal coefficients are significantly (about half) lower than the other two with spatial looking a bit more top loaded than analytic.
Those bodyguards could get film work on the side. Playing bodyguards…
A decent starting point.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbal_intelligence
“But 97% of Israel supports Bibi’s actions in Gaza”
Citations required.
“Bibi is the leader of Israel”
And Trump loves him. So the extermination of Gazans will accelerate.
But as expected you s—- over yourself.
You seem to be arguing 18 USC 115, a law passed by U.S. Congress and signed by President and not quashed by any court is a scandal. I will tell you what a scandal is: A stupid young man, disturbed by U.S. war in Iraq (under the false pretense of WMDs) posted on a mail list a suggestion that somebody should get violent with President Bush. He was sentenced for 4+ years. Some may say federal laws like that are needed to prevent violence against government officials.
Thanks. WaPo link.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/05/16/business-leaders-chat-group-eric-adams-columbia-protesters/
No time wasted in the blowback.
https://jewishinsider.com/2024/05/washington-post-under-fire-for-story-alleging-outsized-influence-by-jewish-donors/
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-801609
https://www.timesofisrael.com/nyc-deputy-mayor-washington-post-report-on-columbia-contains-antisemitic-tropes/
I find this quote interesting.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-billionaires-financiers-change-israel-narrative-whatsapp-group
This article lists some members. Including Jared Kushner’s brother Joshua.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/columbia-eric-adams-whatsapp-kushner-b2546545.html
“Remember, everything he does is transactional.”
Name one politician who isn’t,
This is the fourth time in the last year-and-a-half that you have brought up Kim Novak, despite being unknown to anyone under 60 🙄
“I’d be interested to know what the relevant standard for being a ‘racist’ is.”
There is none. It’s all according to how you “feel.”
Bingo!
Citation? That crazy antisemite JackD was posting the citations here earlier, but if you think it’s bullshit provide your own citation. “Deflection” is right.
Here’s the link to the source of your quote:
https://www.a-rabbitsfoot.com/editorial/confessions/making-sport-white-paul-schrader-on-taxi-driver/
The commenting on Steve’s columns is mild compared to elsewhere on Unz and I believe that is solely to his credit. There’s something to be said for allowing a great deal of free expression and not clutching your pearls. He could certainly go comment less but the comments encourage debate. They are both a pulse check and illuminate different sides of the debate, expose, and suggest different ideas.
Winston Church said, “I’ve taken more out of alcohol then alcohol has taken out of me.” I imagine the comments may do the same for Steve even if he needs a drink after wading through them
Exactly. It’s easy to explain why immigration should be restricted — the voters overwhelming want it restricted, and we are allegedly a democracy. The only interesting and important question is why the government won’t do what the people want.
The people who control Joe Biden are willing to lose an election rather than slow down the flood by enforcing the law. Why?
It’s funny that calling something a “trope” is supposedly adequate to dismiss it. I mean, “rich people use their money and influence to get what they want” is something people say (i.e., a trope) because it’s true.
Everyone (I think Reg is an offender here, too) – when you want to post a wikipedia picture, DO NOT post a link to the picture, because IT WON’T DISPLAY.
Like this:
Instead, click on the picture, and THEN use the (different) URL – like this:
Agree.
☮
“The hard boiled lot that survives will not be friendly to those that betrayed them.”
Isn’t that happening now, and for the past 50 years? So why not do something about it now? What’s the point in waiting?
In response to you and Stan Adams I am going to stand by my original post and say that in 1974 there was no Monday Night Baseball. Yes I’m sure there were baseball games played on Monday nights (small n), and I’m sure some of them were nationally televised, but I have not seen any contemporaneous evidence than NBC broadcast a show with the title Monday Night Baseball. That title was first used in 1976 by ABC to complement its football coverage with a similar title. Branding is a thing. Also note that Jackson Jules specifically referred to an ABC telecast.
One famous example was their eighth broadcast which occurred on June 28, 1976. It was the national coming-out party for Mark Fidrych, who improved his record to 8-1 by scattering 7 hits in defeating the first-place New York Yankees 7-1. iSteve favorite Rusty Staub got the game-winning RBI with his first-inning two-run home run. The amazing part of this game was that it was finished in 1:51.
As for JonSable, that’s what the Troll button is for.
I guess there was no fire alarm handy.
You made the two worst suggestions of the year.
Good writing, clever handle.
I assure you I am not a troll. I have a low tolerance of people making false/wrong/untrue statements. Maybe I shouldn’t have responded that way but maybe you should take more care in your comments. Have a great day.
I responded to the criticism here. TDLR: I stand by original comment.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/jackson-jules-on-noticing/#comment-6572247
I saw your response after I made my 2nd comment. I understand the rationale behind your argument. You have a point. I was going to apologize until I saw you call another person a troll. Is that your shtick?
Hey, fellas. Here’s something that you might enjoy “noticing.”
Shah-lie’s Angels!
In 1977, we were training sailors of the Imperial Iranian Navy in Orlando to run nuclear subs. I saw them in person. Neat caps, which said “Imperial Iranian Navy” in English.
In ’67 or 8, my father trained a group of Turkish naval officers in mine warfare. At the closing party, their chief said the Prophet said you shall not drink wine, but he said nothing about whiskey. Then he tried a bit of the fragrant Carolina BBQ someone had insensitively brought. “This is good. The Koran says pork is bad. Therefore, this is not pork!” And they all dug in. I have a photo of my bald, paper-white dad glowing like a light bulb surrounded by his swarthy students.
Nah, I got wise to that a while ago, and have been posting tutorials of my own. The second image’s URL has “upload” near the front, and that’s the clue to look for that it will work.
Kevin’s and Jules’s error was in capitalizing night and baseball when they shouldn’t have, for which you take them to task. You make the opposite error– not capitalizing I- when you should have.
Yes, branding is a thing, but not a thing powerful enough to negate basic traditional rules of orthography, such as always starting a sentence with a majuscule. Not a minuscule, only ’cause Steve Jobs thought it was cool to.
He was half-Arab. Perhaps that was his excuse– that script has no capitals.
With the highest respect toward Charles Murray, my initial reaction upon reading this was “huh, that sounds higher than expected”. When reading Charles Murray, I, for one, haven’t been struck by the impression that he is an “incredible, generational verbal reasoner”, in the same way that I have been so struck when reading, say, that titan of 20th century analytic philosophy David Lewis (whom Steve, I seem to recall, once described as “ferociously brilliant” – assuming my own long-term memory holds up). That hardly seems surprising: after all, Murray is a public intellectual, and the problems treated within his books, the ideas explored, the arguments exposited, criticized, and positively propounded, etc., are, by definition, those with which public intellectuals deal, i.e., not exactly occupying the further reaches of complexity and subtlety. Whatever their myriad virtues, books like Human Accomplishment aren’t exactly On The Plurality of Worlds by the latter score, and, after all, why would they be? Murray is toiling in a very different vineyard, and the “ceiling” of dialectical complexity and subtlety, so to speak, is vastly higher within the domain of the analytic philosopher than within that of the public intellectual. In any event, Murray confirmed his impressive but sub-perfect SAT-V score on Twitter some time ago:
At least one of the Ottoman Sultans died of Cirrhosis of the liver, and another was known as ‘Selim the Sot.’ Supposedly, he was led to embark on the conquest of Crete because of the fine wine to be had there.
Whites (and some Asians) are better visuospatially than Jews are so testing for it would disadvantage Jews.
Public policy (legal and extra-legal) in the United States is generally set in such a way as to protect or advance Jewish interests. You can observe this in almost all arenas, including foreign policy and immigration.
How important is visuospatial intelligence to medical, surgical, engineering, and military outcomes?
Whites (and some Asians) are better visuospatially than Jews are so testing for it would disadvantage Jews.
Public policy (legal and extra-legal) in the United States is generally set in such a way as to protect or advance Jewish interests. You can observe this in almost all arenas. Foreign policy, immigration, and attitudes toward Christmas are only the most notorious.
How important is visuospatial intelligence to medical, surgical, engineering, and military outcomes?
Your ass just got community-noted hard. Not a good look.
Niccolo (FbF) was joking. The correction by Community Notes is part of the fun.
The pimp was made to look sort of ‘Indian’, probably a homage to John Ford’s famous Western.
‘Sport’, though a lowlife, isn’t presented as a total monster. He knows how to handle the girls, as when he slow-dances with Iris and assures her. And part of the movie’s message is that many girls willingly left their dull homes to be with excitement.
And Bickle is of course no hero but a psychopath, in some ways mentally sicker than Sport, who is morally zero but seems mentally normal.
So, we have a mental monster with moral conscience vs moral monster with mental balance.
Apart from the pimps, most of the street trouble in the film involves blacks.
For those PC-inclined, there is Tarantino calling Rolling Thunder(also by Schrader) as racist against Mexicans in his latest book on his favorite movies.
I’m not particularly surprised by the 1960s behaviour as very conscious secularism was enforced at the time in Turkey, not least by the military.
Even under the AKP, this company operates, though there has been a tendency to raise prices of alcohol, allegedly to curb drinking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efes_Beverage_Group
Atatürk died of cirrhosis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atat%C3%BCrk#Illness_and_death
In my vast 2015 experience, you could score a $5 glass of wine easily enough in any place that relied on tourists, but if you were hitting some truly plebian aborigine hangout — better resign yourself to tea.
It’s a tragedy, as there really is a lot of mighty fine wine country there.
Turkey — in my view — was mildly deranged in the Ataturk era. Now — under Erdogan — it’s started to feel its way towards some national identity that truly fits.
I wish them all the best — but somebody has got to get Erdogan to accept that economics is a science rather than an ideology.
Those people need to work on their drinking skills.
A motivated hammer-wielding intruder would have finished the job.
Definitely important for engineering. SMPY is probably the best resource for looking at that. Their 35 year paper is a good reference.
Study of Mathematically Precocious Youth After 35 Years
https://my.vanderbilt.edu/smpy/files/2013/02/DoingPsychScience2006.pdf
Figure 4 is useful. Here is the caption and a partial screenshot. To emphasize (some find this unintuitive), spatial ability is represented by the direction and length of the arrows. The Z=-0.73 by business in the left panel gives scale.
I find the negative value for spatial ability (keep in mind this is relative to the SMPY group!) for medicine a bit surprising. I suspect surgical would be different. Here is a review paper about that.
Recent evidence on visual-spatial ability in surgical education: A scoping review
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7749687/
Military is an interesting one I had not thought about much. The ASVAB tests for spatial ability. Here is some discussion.
https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/19017/chapter/8
I would say obviously important in select areas (e.g. aviation and mechanical work).
This 1991 report indicates some benefit for special forces selection and assessment.
Project A Spatial Tests and Military Orienteering Performance in the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Program
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA233432.pdf
I’m curious how much difference spatial ability makes for tactical and strategic situation evaluation and response. (Twinkie, if you happen to read this, any thoughts?)
That’s interesting — and corresponds to some haphazard impressions I’ve formed. Any links?
I’ll buy that
There is no single number answer to your question because it depends so heavily on your “experimental setup” including how you restrict all the potential confounding factors and how you take care of your observational bias.
For this specific conclusion I would want to know how many “No Smoking” signs is this? What is the population of the town and what are the proportions of black to non-black. I would further want to know the fraction of each who were smokers.
Did you make a casual observation or did you set up a station with a camera to observe everyone in front of the no smoking sign for a period of time?
WRT your own bias, how would you take account of the possibility that you are more likely notice when a black person does this?
In short I think based on the above, you can never draw a rational (or rather scientific) conclusion based on what I take to be your method. It would, however, serve as a reasonable way to develop a testable hypothesis
There is a fair amount of spatial ability discussion in the thread surrounding this comment.
https://www.unz.com/jthompson/intelligence-objectively/?showcomments#comment-3500869
The best single reference I know is Lynn (1991).
Race differences in intelligence: A global perspective
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/247325974_Race_differences_in_intelligence_A_global_perspective
You have to search around in the tables a bit, but that covers most non-Jewish groups.
Regarding Jewish spatial ability, I have written about that, but having trouble finding in my comments. Here is commenter JLK.
https://www.unz.com/jthompson/swanning-about-fooled-by-algebra/?showcomments#comment-2740587
More in that thread (e.g. search for “Backman”). Here is Backman’s 1972 paper (full text on LibGen and SciHub).
Patterns of mental abilities: Ethnic, socioeconomic, and sex differences.
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1972-27725-001
Tables 1 and 2 and Figures 1 and 2 cover the raw score differences. I don’t see IQ-style scores, but here is JLK again.
https://www.unz.com/jthompson/swanning-about-fooled-by-algebra/?showcomments#comment-2749625
I looked at that paper here as well.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/sailer-ships-of-state/#comment-3242344
P.S. Also worth noting the sex differences in average spatial ability.
>And Trump loves him.
No, he doesn’t. In 2020, Bibi dropped him like a live grenade. You think Trump is likely to forget that, given how he’s being reminded of that year daily? If there’s one thing that pushes Trump’s red buttons, it is disrespect, real or perceived, and if there’s one thing he knows well, it is vengeance.
Even without the personal grudge, Trump is essentially a 1960s Queens hard hat who happened to be born with a silver spoon. His pro-Israel inclinations are just that: inclinations. Not ideology. He’s not going to avoid saying the obvious just for their sake, and his instinct of making pro-con lists about American interests and acting on them is a lot closer to how even pro-Israeli Americans tend to think than our political class. Worse yet for the mainstream GOP, he’s a billionaire who is already having his dirty laundry constantly exposed, so theoretically, he’s AIPAC-proof.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-biden-israel-pr-hugh-hewitt-21faee332d95fec99652c112fbdcd35d
But Trump also has the attention span of a gnat. He’s not a deep thinker and he’s not going to start being one in his late 70s. So, it is true this doesn’t matter unless he’s surrounded by the right people. And he’s not. Right now, he’s focused on the trial, which is no doubt how the Democrats want it. Even if he wins, he’ll be aged into being more-if not quite-like Biden.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/donald-trump-foreign-policy-advisers-met-israeli-pm-netanyahu-source-says-2024-05-20/
It is pretty much blasphemy in Turkey to say so. By the 1980s, schoolteachers in Turkey were claiming he was a devout Muslim, which he certainly was not. But the military coup regime felt Islam might be a useful counterweight against Marxism so a Kemal Atatürk who fitted this image was created.
Under the AKP, often accused of undermining secularism in Turkey, a tentative “de-Atatürkisation” was brought in, but after the failed coup attempt in 2016 they started to backtrack on this – partly because the “lone hero guiding the fortunes of the nation” image suddenly became more appealing to Erdoğan. At AKP rallies his portrait tends to be the same size as the portrait of Atatürk, which would once have been considered almost blasphemy but getting rid of Atatürk altogether is not currently feasible.
In Turkey in 1997 (the second time I visited the country) I remember a bar near the waterfront in Istanbul with people drinking beer and with cigarette smoke hanging so heavy that I felt a little bit ill. People were transfixed by a football game on the TV in the bar. A day or two later I was in a taxi cab on a road and a hand protruded from a car in front and fired pistol shots in the air. His team had won a match, presumably. What we need to do is channel some of this enthusiasm at the Zionist enemy…
When I went to a barber in Turkey in 2015, he appeared to be expressing his enthusiasm for ‘the Turkish Bob Marley’ by claiming he had started hacking at his forearm with a machete at the concert.
I assumed I was misunderstanding him somehow, but maybe I wasn’t.
Was he speaking broken English or using sign language?
Yes, I remember Netanyahu turning on Trump, despite the latter recognising Jerusalem as the Israeli capital etc. I suspect Trump will resent that and remember that, if only at the personal level.