Hello everyone.I just want to share my recent experience been cheated in Mudah.I lost RM 180 as a result for buying Nintendo DS there.The seller give me the wrong tracking number when I requested it from him.When I called him,the number no longer can be called.Everyone should be careful when looking to the ads there.It has been said that police reported cases on mudah.my that people have lost millions of money due to cheats and scammed.Everyone who have their own experience and opinion can share?

Thats y when I buy from mudah, I oni do COD. :)

mudah is famous for con case....extra caution...as amein said cod is the best practice

:peace:

mudah-cod mang.

:nod: if seller no COD, dont deal, especially the deal is too good 2 be true (very cheap) then u have 2 be careful

This post has been edited by .O.: Jan 30 2012, 04:48 PM

Ya2... Remember last time I bought edifier M3300 COD from 1 aunty, go to her house..
Nego kaw kaw then get RM90 oni... :flex:

Thanks for your advices and suggestions.But I'm a PRO Niaga in Mudah and I'm never cheated anyone.I have manage to buy and sell a lot of stuffs in Mudah before so never expected to be conned. :)

I sell things on Mudah only, but I never buy things from Mudah.

My favorite local trading site is lelong.com.my, you can see the members' ratings and joining histories, from there you can roughly know if the members can be trusted or not? (just like ebay), I would say most lelong's verified members are honest traders and they seems to be more mature people.

This post has been edited by DiamondBar: Jan 30 2012, 06:39 PM

i purchase on ebay so far
no problem

malaysia got too many scammer

I always prefer and insist all sellers have to be verified by IC before they can sell their stuffs online.

Just like when you open a retail shop, you have to have a business license..

Well your opinion is good one there..I'm also have bought stuffs in Ebay and without any problems.If there any problem it must be related to Customs.

why dont TS just practice COD ?

Not surprising when Mudah has loads of scammer where pirated items are allowed to be posted for free. Err !

COD is not 100% safe.

What if the seller gives (COD) you the item that does not work?
For example, like electrical items or computer items.
Unless if you can test the item first before you pay to the seller.

This is why lelong.com.my can act as a middleman in between the seller
and buyer, this service calls Safe Trade.
But this service requires a RM 5 fee, if I am not mistaken.

But usually, once the seller has a long time of positive trading history and is
verified by IC, the transaction with this seller should be 99.99% safe.

Ebay also got scammers actually...but the best thing with ebay if u propperly follow the terms and if u get scammed they will refund u back in full...

Scammers in ebay.com.my nowadays increasing...many cases reported to the police as my fren said...

I suggest to use Paypal to make payment when buying things from ebay.

If any con case happens, you can report to Paypal to freeze conman's
money, and you can get your money back from Paypal.

Great informations... :thumbs:

Report any seller or buyer to Paypal by clicking Resolution Center tab
on Paypal main page.

Paypal will act as a middleman to judge to see who is right and wrong
on Resolution Center section. Paypal wants to see proof only.

This is very important, when you sell stuffs and collect payments from Paypal,
always use registered mail to send shipment, and keep the registered mail receipt
for at least 6 months as proof of delivery.

So far, I never buy from mudah.my. I only buy from verified seller from lelong.my or other verified online store such like superbuy.my, superbid.my and moresales.com.my.

safe trade only protect buyer not seller, there's 1 time my friend send a working LCD to a buyer but then later buyer play tricks, send back his own faulty LCD to my friend n complain to lelong safe trade refund to d buyer. my friend lose hundred of ringgit on the deal and get a bad remark. is this what we call safe? :hmm:

:furious: n d worst part of lelong.com.my is secretly sell members personal informations (address, phone, bank account) out to third parties

I thought the buyer was supposed to test the LCD in the Lelong's office to confirm the LCD was in good condition or not..? :stars:
But buyer was not supposed to take the LCD away from lelong office and tested it in buyer's home?


I am not sure about this. Do you have any proofs for this?

But I see some lelong members disclose their address (dealers or retail shops), phone numbers, and bank accounts on their
postings.., it is no surprise anybody can get the information from there.

I am not saying that lelong is perfect, but at least lelong can help members to minimize the con cases.

This post has been edited by DiamondBar: Feb 2 2012, 08:24 PM

safe trade doesn't work that way. seller have 2 send item 1st, buyer get item, test then inform lelong.com.my 2 release payment 2 pay seller.

i am a lelong member long ago, i never disclose my name & contact ever but still i received some calls from some company asking me 2 buy their products so what i did is force them 2 tell me how they get my phone n informations by warning them i will make a police report n so 1 of them scare, telling me it's from lelong.com.my they got my informations from. i stop doing all my sales in lelong.com.my ever since.

I am very surprised to hear about lelong selling member's information ... :stars:

Your friend should explain to lelong about the dishonest buyer.
Did you friend explain to lelong?

I joined lelong since during that time they used to call buypc.com.my.
You can tell how long have I been joining lelong.

So far I do not have any big issue to buy and sell in lelong, probably
I buy stuffs only from verified members with more positive feedback and
long time trading history.

I am still posting my hand phone number on lelong.com.my now, but
I have never received any calls to ask me to buy something, except
some spamming sms.

But to me, in overall, I still prefer lelong's business model than other local trading sites.

buypc.com.my? :stars: o do u mean buysell.com.my? it's called lelong.com.my in year 1998, i joined as member on 1999. people reject d buysell.com.my name n later they change back to lelong.com.my.

:hmm: u said you'r a long time member, funny is why b4 u said? :rolleyes: u dont know how safe trade work all this time?

my friend case happen b4 they use d name buysell.com.my. explain? lelong.com.my just ignored my friend. that's how lelong.com.my do business.

lelong.com.my is so dead now, people don't trust lelong.com.my no more, even d forum is dead with all those complain. there r cases verified members also cheat buyers, read their forum. what a shame!!! now it's mudah.my turn, they start 2 b c0cky ady after famous.

This post has been edited by .O.: Feb 3 2012, 06:48 PM

yup thats correct...
normally scammers will use money transfer to do transaction...

Always practice COD when dealing..im twice got scam on mudah,my..

I joined lelong not later than 1998.
When I joined lelong, they called buypc.com.my at that time. You can email to lelong to ask them about buypc.com.my.

At first, buypc.com.my started with mostly used PC spare parts tradings. Later on, they added more product categories.

Few years back, lelong.com.my and buysell.com.my could access on the internet at the same time.

I know this Safe Trade is available in lelong, but I have never used it.

I also got cheated twice in lelong few years ago.

The 1st case I managed to settle and got my money back from the conman (in Melaka) all by myself.
This conman did not send me the CDRW drive.

The 2nd case, I COD an AMD processor in Wangsa Maju, when I back home to test it, I found out it was a faulty processor,
I could not do anything about this case. Because the seller already stated on his posting that he was not sure the processor
working or not, I lost RM 50 because of my careless. This is the only money I lost in lelong so far.


What I can think of is probably your friend did not communicate with lelong effectively?

I know lelong will first look at the members profile when there are any arguments.


I only agree with you in this scenario: Lelong is not active as before in second hand items market (individual to individual market).

But they are more focus in dealer market now (dealer to individual market).

I guess this is one of the options Lelong can generate income by requesting dealers to open online shops on Lelong.

Mudah??? :D :D
I would say Mudah's business model can only survive in under-developed countries for short period of time.

DiamondBar; i think u speculate a lot. first u speculate on safe trade, now u speculate on my friend communication that u never take part, n i dont need u 2 agree on what i've said. i am only posting what happen b4 base on our experience there, like it o not, dont speculate with yr own opinion. u want 2 b their cheerleader so b it but knowing that lelong.com.my is long dead, go search alexa see their ranking #25. :x

all this make me wonder did u speculate this buypc.com.my name too :hmm: u dont have 2 explain o proof it, cause i dont want 2 know. B] bb

This post has been edited by .O.: Feb 6 2012, 02:18 PM

I will always support lelong because I prefer members' identifications to be verified,
and the good things are that members' joining histories and ratings can be viewed
on profiles just like ebay.

If comparing ebay to lelong, I still like lelong better.
Ebay is too straight and they are very stubborn.

But I agree with you selling 2nd hand items on lelong is very slow recently.
10 years ago, I could sell my items on lelong very fast.
In contrary, for today, Mudah can sell faster than lelong.

I talked to many traders about lelong, most of them do not like to
join lelong because they think the process of joining lelong is complicated,
especially when they need to submit IC to lelong for verification and selling item purposes..

People from under-developed countries are always looking for easy and simple procedures,
I guess this is one of the reasons Mudah exists, but the draw back is that the security and protection
for traders will be scarified and ignored.

Everybody can sell items on Mudah with fake information.
If we get cheated on Mudah, how do we trace the cheater?

If we get cheated on lelong, at least we know who they are, and they cannot run away.

I bought items from lelong via courier, so far okay.

Actually, I have been trying to figure out why lelong is slow lately?

One more negative impact to against lelong that I can think of is lelong only allows one picture to be
uploaded for free. If you need more pictures to be uploaded on your posting, you need to pay fee to
lelong , or your need to know HTML. This will make the process a bit complicated for lelong sellers.

Bro .O., in order to look forward to Wawasan 2020, we want to learn from the best (like ebay), but not to learn from the dum..

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Added on February 6, 2012, 2:40 pmI know buypc.com.my just because I joined lelong earlier than you.
I joined as their member on buypc.com.my website in 1997 or 1998.

Everybody has different point of view, background, and experience.
Perhaps you had a bad experience from lelong; but to me, I do not have any problems with
lelong, and I like them.

For example, a lot of people hate Paypal:
http://www.paypalsucks.com/

But to me, Paypal is the best so far.

This post has been edited by DiamondBar: Feb 6 2012, 04:21 PM

well both of you should not fight because of differences in opinion.everyone has their own perception and experience so it is nice for all of you giving some informations but again no quarrel over small matter.thanks to all of you who giving advices and share some knowledges here.:)

This post has been edited by sojiroseta: Feb 6 2012, 07:02 PM

Everyone wants cheap but sometimes it's not worth it!

Better have peace of mind. Slightly expensive but you are likely to sleep well at night....

DO NOT BUY THINGS THROUGH ONLINE!

Yeah i agreed. The first time i buy at Mudah.my i immediately get conned. I wanted to buy iphone 4 from this guy's ID erwan : 0102900762. He say can COD me with me the next day, so I deposited him RM100 yet after 10 weeks he still not able to COD with me. He keeps ask me to be patient. Hello, am i not patient enough waiting you for 10 weeks? Keep saying busy, and in between this 10 weeks, i had made more than hundreds call + sms. He keeps ignored me. Then 1 day he sms me told me that his car crashed, need RM500 for repair. And keep convince me that he will come COD with me the iphone 4. He thought every 1 is stupid. After stupidly waited for how dare i bank-in him money. This guy's reputation cannot be trusted la. Just to share my unpleasant experience.

Why did you need to deposit RM 100 to him before COD?
For booking fee..??

rule no 1 - Always and always choose to COD

rule no 2 - Never deposit any money regardless of whatever they saying. You are going to COD with the seller anyway.

rule no 3 - Test the item kaw kaw upon COD. If its boxed, open the box. Tear the wrappings or papers and all that stuff. See and touch the actual item. If its electronic, power it up. See if it works. Any phone will power up, even new from factory, possibly the juice less than 40%. If the dealer is a shop retailer, ask for receipt. If he say u can just come to their shop and claim warranty. Dont trust that bullshit.

He say want come to melaka collect house rental but no money. So RM100 as deposit.
Then the next day 9pm he say he need go to Seremban awhile.
I waited til 2am, he stil in seremban and claimed his mother sick.
The story very very long la...
But all are bullshits.

Here i want to reveal the swindler
Name: Mohd Erwan Hafissham Bin Mohd Zahib
HP: 0102900762

Please aware not to being scammed.


This post has been edited by mourir: Apr 22 2012, 03:43 PM

All the cock and bull story....

by my experience ,
BTW,im selling car in mudah , but the problem is , customers mostly FFK.. promised the time to meet up but end up , didnt come and ffk..zzz

I don't know who owned Mudah.my but the website admins are idiots.
Just because someone has a pro-niaga account, mudah.my refuses to take action on deleting his account and his advertisements.

I've reported on a guy there a day ago, but all I got from mudah.my was "we will investigate"

But after 24 hours, the scammer's ad is still there.
I've also told mudah.my to contact me if they wanted some hard proof that the seller is a scammer, but mudah.my didn't do anything at all.

It's like they encourage scammers to be in their site.

Seeing so many good review on lelong by the LYN members.

I myself had a very unpleasant experience with my first purchase at lelong during 28 July 2012, Saturday night.

Was searching logitech universal remote control here in kk, sabah but couldn't find one. Decided to give it a try on lelong when I've got one search result from a seller.

Checked his rating, seems alright to me, Feedback Score:2787
Positive Feedback:100.00%. But I still go through his feedback page to ensure not much of ugly transaction. Most of his trade are below RM100.

I saw 4-5 "neautral" feedback stating that the seller should be more aware of his stock availability. The seller did replied some of the feedback saying "Sorry. We got update from time to time. Just we cannot be update the stock quantity real-time. Buyer may call or message to check stock availability before make payment. Thanks"

So I decided to ask him at the item Q & A page if it's ready stock for Monday shipment (28th July 2012 Sat, 10:21pm). He replied "Yes". Thus I placed my order and proceed with payment(28th July 2012 Sat, 10:41pm).

The next day (29 July 2012 Sunday 05:39:16 PM)he pm me



I was very very unhappy, not even a single word of sorry, and why in the world he would tell me it is stock ready in the first place? Somemore at Saturday night 10:21pm I asked him, I doubted that is it even possible sold out at such coincidence chance.

My replied as following:


Only he wanted to apologize


(that's his so called proof by sending to my email)




Then I received another pm from him again


What can I do? I'll just get my refund and ban this lelong for good. C'z I sent email to the lelong admin and they don't seems to give a shit when replying me but just for the purpose of verifying if the seller did refund.



Sigh.


As soon as I got my refund, I went to leave feedback for this seller, but I can only choose 2 option, "good" and "neutral"..........

No wonder he got 100% positive rating la if that's how the "rating system" work.

Am sure those other "neutral" rating would have been a bad rating instead.

And there's this 3% netpay charges which cannot be refund, I wonder how many of the "neutral rating" customer didn't get their goods due to out of stock. I feel cheated in a way somehow although I did get my refund for the item.

This post has been edited by siaofui: Jul 31 2012, 03:39 PM

This is somewhat a con/selling fake items case on mudah.my. I heard this case from a friend of mine. A friend of his was somehow conned into buying 2 Galaxy Note China version for RM1200 each.

His friend decided to post it up on mudah.my to get back the money he lost. The thing is, he posted it as original items and selling it as used items, thus the "cheap" price : RM1250. Lets just call this friend of his as H.

2 days after H posted the ad, he got a few calls and went out to meet the buyer a.k.a COD.

Customer A is a 'kakak'. Apparently all she did was just 'belek-belek' the phone and just gave him the money.

Customer B is a 'pak cik'. He came along with his son. He also 'belek-belek' the phone but before deciding, he asked his son to have a look. The son look through the app menu and display and took out his own S3 phone to compare. He then proclaimed that the phone is not an original. H just said that he didn't knew and was selling on behalf of a friend. Customer B end up not buying, which is good for him.

Customer C is a youngster around 23-24 of age. He too, was like Customer A. Just 'belek-belek' the phone and gave the money to H with much questions.

Btw, all those transaction happened in one night. As H was on his way to meet customer C, customer A texted H. She informed him that her friend checked the phone and realizing it is fake, she would like her money back. H replied, he didn't know it was fake as he was selling it for a friend. Customer A then replied, 'Tolonglah bagi balik duit akak. Duit tu dah lama akak kumpul. Akak tak halalkan makan minum duit tu'. But H ignored it and after the phones were sold, he broke the contact number's SIM card used for the transaction.

From what i heard, H felt guilty over what he did but he did't want to be in the losing side. As in, it's okay if others are the victims as long as he's not a victim. I hope he pay the penalty for it in the afterlife though. Cheating others just won't do.

In connection with the above case, I believe one must remain alert when buying things online. If you want to purchase a phone or other pricey things, it's better to bring along a friend with you when dealing with the seller (for COD). Or learn to differentiate between the fake and original. Ignorance will cost you dearly.

penipu hari ini,

http://www.mudah.my/Motorola+defy+plus+like+new-16969465.htm

nama:chairul anam bin iksan
phone: 0111628014
maybank account : 164799149288

jumlah: rm290................celaka orang ini

BTW, do we need to pay in order to able to post ad? I try to post my car for sale but it says i do not have enough credit to do so. First time using...

BECAREFULL THIS GUY.....CON MEN

CAESAREAN EWRIN

HP: 0105889364

FULL OF BS BUYER AND SELLER

TRYED TO CON ME FOR A PSP I PUT IN MUDAH (FAILED)

THEN LATER TRY TO SELL ME IPAD 2 32GB WARNA PUTIH WITH WIFI RM500 (WHERE GOT SO CHEAP IPAD IN THE MARKET)=(FAILED)



This post has been edited by TRAZE99: Jan 2 2013, 10:26 PM

I'm selling a car on Mudah.my.

WTF is this guy doing???

Serious buyer?

I'm a PRO Niaga in Mudah and I'm never cheated anyone also
i post item asap once receive payment. i believe long term business with better than con =)

In mudah you see picture, description, 100% genuine. also called & enquire, but once get .. it's fake.
I ask refund RM300, seller ok but after deduct RM100 for bla bla ...
Ok, I sent item back & I get no refund. Now no money, no item...

I file case at kpdnkk/mudah, slow taking action & say file case to individual is very hard & time consuming...
Very risky buying with no inspection. Now I no buy, no matter how great product., if cant COD.

Designer goods, lv, chanel, hermes, prada, montblanc, gucci etc. found at mudah.com ... claims as bundle or used items but is grad AAA even butik cant detect.. I bought a few now stop after discovery all is fake. Went to second hand shop, they also dunno weather their goods genuine or not ... ask me return if found out not, they also not sure their own goods genuine or not... still want take chances selling... I was surprize hearing that walk out and ended buy at butik.

Aww... I really wish i have read this thread. I thought mudah.my is ok. Just got scammed RM300 for buying hp. HP not sent, and seller MIA. What use if got maybank account of scammer. From my last experience, Police ignore and bank representative will say they cannot disclose any information unless police personally look into the case. Never expect I will get scammed again. Sigh. RM300 my son 1 month childare money gone. *sob**sob* Everyone do be more careful when buying online ba. >_<~~~~~~~~~

Everyone do beware of this scammer.
Email: xiiaoyee_ling@hotmail.com
HP: 0178313654
Maybank2u: Lee fook lim 110108083597
In case she use other account to scam people, here is the scammer tactics. This scammer will ask people add her facebook after communicating through email, after transaction done she will bock that person. HP number if other ppl sms her she will reply, if victim she won't. How I wish someone will lure her/him out and seriously hope that this scammer will get caught by police then less one scammer. Sigh.

This post has been edited by voguecloset: Jun 17 2013, 12:42 PM

if kena scam report police got use?wat can they do if the bank acc holder use fake address and ic

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Has anyone received any cases like this?

Same modus operandi....they are using same tactics to scam people and ask u to do shipping outside malaysia.Both scammers ask u to pos item to Nigeria .WTHell ?


This post has been edited by mon678: Jul 19 2013, 05:37 AM

i got one claiming he is US navy, will get an agent to do shipping for him
name is Richard Taylor, sounds familiar?
still checking if he will really put money into my paypal

Just say only accept paypal as payment. Reluctant to comply, you are not obliged to send anything.

https://www.facebook.com/Xiaoling12345

Is this a scam? Seems suspicious.

If yes, how are they going to do it?


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