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Watch Leon Panetta on Rafah, Israel, President Biden - Bloomberg

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00:00-- WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST 24 HOURS. COULD THIS BE A TACTIC FOR NEGOTIATING A TEMPORARY CEASE-FIRE AGREEMENT, MAKING IT TO BE MORE IN ISRAEL ' S FAVOR OR DO YOU SEE THIS AS A PRECURSOR TO A GROUND INVASION OF RAFAH? > > YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ISRAEL ' S FUNDAMENTAL MISSION, WHICH IS ULTIMATELY TO GO AFTER HAMAS ' LEADERSHIP THAT WAS INVOLVED IN OCTOBER 7. ISRAEL OBVIOUSLY IS NOT GOING TO ALLOW FOUR BATTALIONS OF HAMAS TO CONTINUE TO EXIST IN RAFAH. ONE WAY OR ANOTHER THERE WILL BE A ROUGH OPERATION. THE ISSUE IS WHETHER IT IS A FULL-SCALE BOMBING IN -- AND INVASION OR A TARGETED ATTACK. HAMAS OBVIOUSLY IS NERVOUS ABOUT THAT. THEY ARE AWARE THAT ISRAEL ULTIMATELY HAS TO GO AFTER THEM IN RAFAH. THEY ARE WILLING TO AGREE TO A CEASE-FIRE BUT THEY WANT A PERMANENT END TO THE WAR, WHICH WOULD SPELL DEFEAT FOR ISRAEL. THE QUESTION IS, CAN THE PARTIES AT LEAST AGREE TO A TEMPORARY CEASE-FIRE, TEMPORARY PAUSE THAT ALLOWS FOR THE EXCHANGE OF HOSTAGES AND ALLOWS FOR HUMANITARIAN AID TO BE ABLE TO GO INTO GAZA? THAT IS THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION. ULTIMATELY, I THINK BOTH PARTIES FRANKLY ARE FACING KIND OF A TOUGH DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT ISRAEL WILL CONTINUE WITH THE MISSION OF WAR AND WHETHER HAMAS WILL ULTIMATELY BE DEFEATED OR NOT. KAILEY: I WONDER WHAT YOUR ANSWER IS TO THAT QUESTION. HOW LIKELY IS IT THAT AN AGREEMENT CAN BE REACHED WHEN ONE SIDE WANTS THIS TO BE TEMPORARY, THE OTHER WANTED TO BE PERMANENT AND THIS HAS BEEN UNDERWAY FOR MONTHS WITHOUT YIELDING A DEAL > > ? THERE IS A LOT OF PRESSURE GOING ON BETWEEN THE VARIOUS ARAB COUNTRIES INVOLVED. EGYPT, QATAR, THE UNITED STATES PUTTING PRESSURE ON TO TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN ARRIVE AT KIND OF AGREEMENT. HAMAS HAS TO RECOGNIZE THAT ISRAEL WILL MOVE ON RAFAH ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. IT IS PROBABLY IN THEIR INTEREST TO AT LEAST HAVE A TEMPORARY CEASE-FIRE AS WELL. I THINK THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE HERE THAT ULTIMATELY, THE HARDEE ' S MAY AGREE TO AT LEAST A TEMPORARY CEASE-FIRE, WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO TAKE A BREATH AND ALLOWS FOR THE EXCHANGE OF HOSTAGES, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO ISRAEL, AND PERTINENT TO THE WORLD THAT WE GET THESE HOSTAGES RELEASED AND PROVIDE HUMANITARIAN AID TO THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY THE WAR. I THINK THERE ARE STRONG REASONS WHY THE PARTIES SHOULD AGREE TO AT LEAST A TEMPORARY CEASE-FIRE AT THIS POINT. KAILEY: ON THE SUBJECT OF HOSTAGES, PRESIDENT BIDEN GAVE AN ADDRESS ON ANTISEMITISM ON CAPITOL HILL EARLIER TODAY. TAKE A LISTEN. > > MY ADMINISTRATION IS WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TO FREE THE REMAINING HOSTAGES. JUST AS WE HAVE FREED HOSTAGES ALREADY, WE WILL NOT REST UNTIL WE BRING THEM ALL HOME. KAILEY: OF COURSE, YOU WERE NOT JUST SECRETARY OF DEFENSE OR DIRECTOR OF THE CIA, YOU WERE WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF. WHEN YOU HEARD THE WORDS OF THE PRESIDENT NOT JUST ON HOSTAGES BUT ABOUT ANTISEMITISM OVERALL, DO YOU FEEL HE IS DOING ENOUGH IN THIS MOMENT TO ADDRESS THE LITANY OF CRITICISM HE IS FACING FOR HIS POLICY AROUND ISRAEL AND HANDLING OF WHAT IS HAPPENING ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES, WHETHER YOU AND KEEP PLAYS A ROLE THERE? WHAT SHOULD THE PRESIDENT BE DOING DIFFERENTLY? > > I AM A BELIEVER AS STAFF THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS TO MAKE CLEAR TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON, AND THE PRESIDENT DID SPEAK TO THE DEMONSTRATIONS. I THINK THE PRESIDENT PROBABLY NEEDS TO SPEAK MORE CLEARLY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT THE TRUE PATH OF THIS WAR IS. IF IT IS JUST THE ISSUE OF THE UNITED STATES PUTTING PRESSURE ON ISRAEL NOT TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, FRANKLY I THINK THAT CREATES A LOT OF CONFUSION AS TO EXACTLY WHERE THE U.S. STANDS ON THE ISSUE. I THINK THE U.S. UNDERSTANDS THAT ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF AND GO AFTER HAMAS ' LEADERSHIP, THAT IT HAS THE RIGHT TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT HAPPENED ON OCTOBER 7 NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN. AT THE SAME TIME, IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE TO GET THE HOSTAGES BACK AND PROVIDE HUMANITARIAN AID. I DON ' T THINK THOSE SCHOOLS ARE NECESSARILY IN CONFLICT BUT I THINK THE RESIDENT HAS TO MAKE CLEAR TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHY IT IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT IS IMPORTANT TO OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT ISRAEL IN ITS EFFORT TO TRY TO DEFEND ITSELF, BUT AT THE SAME TIME MAKE CLEAR THAT THIS IS A MOMENT WHEN WE NEED TO GET THE EXCHANGE OF HOSTAGES AND PROVIDE HUMANITARIAN AID, AS WELL. I THINK THAT IS THE MESSAGE THAT SHOULD BE EMANATING THE WHITE HOUSE. KAILEY: ON THE IDEA THAT THE U.S. IS SUPPORTING ISRAEL ' S DEFENSE, WE LEARNED IN RECENT DAYS THAT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION PAUSED AND AMMUNITION SHIPMENT THAT ISRAEL ALREADY IS THAT A SIGNAL THAT PERHAPS THE POLICY IN TERMS OF ACTUAL MILITARY AID BEING PROVIDED MY CHANGING, THAT SOME OF THIS COULD BE CONTINGENT ON THE CONDUCT OF THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT AND ARMY IN GAZA? IS THAT APPROPRIATE? > > I DON ' T THINK THERE IS AN UNDERLYING MESSAGE HERE THAT, IF ISRAEL SUDDENLY PROCEEDS INTO RAFAH IN A WAY THAT RESULTS IN A TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF CIVILIAN DEATH, THAT THERE WILL BE A REPERCUSSION WITH REGARDS TO MILITARY ASSISTANCE AND CONDITIONS ON MILITARY ASSISTANCE. ON THE OTHER HAND, IF ISRAEL PROCEEDS IN A TARGETED WAY TO GO AFTER HAMAS AND DOES PROTECT THOSE MILLIONS OF CIVILIANS THAT ARE IN RAFAH, AND THERE ARE WAYS TO DO THAT BUT THEN I THINK THE UNITED STATES CAN CONTINUE TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT ISRAEL IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE IN DEFENDING ITSELF. THERE IS A WAY TO GET THIS DONE, BUT I THINK IT TAKES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF UNDERSTANDING ON DIPLOMACY AND COMMUNICATION TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE.

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Leon Panetta on Rafah, Israel, President Biden

Former US Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta, discusses Israel entering Rafah and whether or not he sees this as a tactic to negotiate a temporary cease-fire agreement or an actual ground invasion. He states that there's a good chance for a temporary cease-fire, and shares if he thinks President Biden is doing enough to address the criticism he has received in regards to his policy on Israel and his handling of the various protests on college campuses. Leon Panetta speaks with Kailey Leinz on Bloomberg's "Balance of Power." (Source: Bloomberg)

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