TIL Ben Stiller developed the premise for Tropic Thunder while shooting Empire of the Sun. He wanted to make a film based on the actors he knew who became "self-important" & appeared to believe they had been part of a real military unit after taking part in boot camps to prepare for war film roles. : r/todayilearned Skip to main content

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TIL Ben Stiller developed the premise for Tropic Thunder while shooting Empire of the Sun. He wanted to make a film based on the actors he knew who became "self-important" & appeared to believe they had been part of a real military unit after taking part in boot camps to prepare for war film roles.

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u/mfyxtplyx avatar

He skewered everybody - producers, directors, authors. I don't know what it's called. I only know the sound it makes when it takes a man's life.

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He frequently used the criticizing comments the producers had about his dailies as fodder for Bill Hader’s character. A chunk of Hader’s dialogue is verbatim the producers comments to Stiller lol

Edit: for people thinking I made this up, here you go starts at 2:10

You spank that ass Les.

Swinging past your knees!

Welcome to the goodie room!

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I'm talkin' G-5 for the Pecker!

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Which is funny, considering Hader shot all his stuff for the movie in one day.

I was listening to a podcast and the host said to the actor, I loved you in this movie and that it was his favorite part of the film and the actor was like was I in that? Turns out they shot it in a few hours while he was on a break from the TV show he was on and didn't even remember being in the movie until then.

u/Every-Incident7659 avatar

I saw an interview with Bill Hader where he was talking about how he does so much voice work and most of it is only a few hours of recording that he'll be watching a movie with his kids and suddenly hear his own voice and be like, wait, when did I do this??

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u/Specialist-Fabulous avatar

Was this Jason Bateman in Dodgeball? Apparently he shot all his parts while on lunch break from Arrested Development

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u/ahhhbiscuits avatar

Oh, Bill remembers Tropic Thunder. Who wouldn't remember acting opposite to attached to Tom Cruise's gigantic, hairy nutsack

u/AmIFromA avatar

Reminds me of the story Josh Freese told in a recent interview with Rick Beato about going to a bar and a song is playing, and he thinks it sucks, and then the refrain comes up and he remembers playing drums on that shit in the studio.

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Huh! Which actor/which movie?

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u/Professional_Act7299 avatar

Same thing happened to Randall Park when he filmed the Asian Jim cold open for The Office. He didn't remember filming it, but it blew up to be one of the most memorable cold opens. So people would start yelling out "Heyyy! Asian Jim!" And he thought they were being racist. Turns out he just has poor memory.

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Why is that funny?

Cause it’s bill Hader.

u/Bombocat avatar

Because they're trying to do a gotcha due to a misunderstanding stemming from a lack of comprehension.  They're saying "hader was on set one day, how could stiller give hader lines based on dailies if he's only there for one day".  First- stiller could have shot hader's shit towards the end of the shooting schedule.  Second, Ben stiller has done many other movies, notably Empire of the Sun, which inspired this movie.  Basically, someone shit and fell back in it.

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My favorite quote of the film. My buddy and I have used it so many times over the years our kids now know when we are about to say it before we actually do.

u/spader1 avatar

Another great part of that quote is the callback later; I only know the sound it makes when it LIES.

u/K_Linkmaster avatar

Danny Fucking Mcbride. I might do the math later, but I think I hate his work 80% of the time.

Not tropic thunder, McBride was right for the role and didn't have too much of a chance to Danny it up.

u/givetake avatar

nobody else could have put tiger balm on that jungles nut sack like he does

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u/ToHerDarknessIGo avatar

Crazy talk.  Eastbound and Down, Vice Principals and The Righteous Gemstones are amazing.

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Hot Rod?

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If you haven't watched the Righteous Gemstones, give it a shot. It is by far Danny McBride's best work.

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He’s the same dude in everything but sometimes that’s exactly what’s needed lol

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When I play Warzone, and someone asks me what gun I'm using, this is my answer 100% of the time. It never gets old, lol

u/umbra_rcm avatar

“Survive!” In my best Lincoln Osiris (Kirk Lazarus/Robert Downey Jr.) is another quote from this movie that I end up using in games

u/NO_TOUCHING__lol avatar

"Cover me, you limp-dicked fuck ups!"

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Especially on must-win clutch rounds. SURVIVE!!!!

Was playing Helldivers 2 recently and it was down to one guy desperately kiting bugs waiting for the transport to arrive. Total silence on comms until “…SURVIVE!” and everyone lost it.

“Survive!” is my go-to whenever anyone gets sick

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Fun fact, Stiller flew out auditioned and failed to get into Oliver Stones Platoon.

Clearly it had an effect on him.

u/El_Cactus_Loco avatar

“Fuck you, I’ll make my own movie. With Jack Black. And hookers!!”

u/Impeachcordial avatar

Wonderful 🤝 

u/langlo94 avatar

How on earth did I live 30 years without realising that Jack Black is Blackjack backwards!? It's right there!

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u/CavyLover123 avatar

And the follow up I only know the sound it makes when it lies

u/putaaaan avatar

This is honestly Tom cruise’s best role to me. Les Grossman is an amazing performance and character

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Key Grips came out of it looking pretty good though.

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u/ZerochildX23 avatar

"The Universe is talking to us right now, you just gotta listen..."

Plays Flo Rida - Low

u/palebrowndot avatar

Fatly dances

u/ahhhbiscuits avatar

Fatly gigantic hairy forearms dancing

You hear that, Pecker?

u/1ndori avatar

You want me to let my client of 15 years, one of my best friends, die in the jungle alone, for some money and a G5?

A G5 airplane?

u/ahhhbiscuits avatar

Playa...

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u/Gultark avatar

And lots of money… plaaaayyaaa!

No more frequent flyer BITCH miles for my boi

u/Wiggles114 avatar
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Yessssssssssss

And lotssssss of moneyyyyyyyy

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It was Cruise's idea to give the character large hands and dance to "Low".

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"I don't drop character 'til I've done the DVD commentary"

Just saw in another comment that apparently, he did in fact stay in character for the DVD commentary.

Honestly I'm at a loss for words, that's truly amazing hahaha

It's fucking hilarious, and if you've never watched it well worth the 2 hours.

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Its more than that. He changes character as his character changes. Once he has his breakdown and becomes Australian he keeps that accent until the credits roll and finally becomes rdj

I think he is still in character…

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He would also give the notes he got back from the studio to Bill Hader for his character to say as lines in the movie. They got less notes after that happened a few times.

"Wait, is he just mocking us?"

Dailies come in: "wAiT, iS hE jUsT mOcKiNg uS?"

u/janet-snake-hole avatar

Dailies are very often a roast of your peers, somehow. At least in my field of animation lol

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u/Brave_Escape2176 avatar

they gave em the old South Park. too many curses? okay we've added more.

Or like how they started Team America World Police with a really shitty looking shot of a puppet show, only to pan out and show the massive scale of the actual movie

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u/Effective_Spite_117 avatar

Is this fucking play about us??

Are WE the dummies???

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Actually though?

u/eldochem avatar

Yeah Danny McBride confirmed this in a YouTube video

I wouldn't trust Danny McBride. I met him at an airport once, and I told him I was a fan, and thought Vice Principals was one of the funniest things I'd ever seen. He just kinda stared at me with a half grin, with no response.

I went on to ask if I was bothering him, and he just said “meh, nah, not really”. At that point, he started to squint his eyes, while still holding the grin.

I thought maybe he was just jet-lagged or something. I mean, he was still standing there, and I still had his attention..so, I thought I'd ask one more question and let him be. I was halfway through a question about Walton Goggins, and before I could get it all out, he leaned near my chest, and just sneezed on it.

He let out a huge, contrived "ACHOOO", but it was a good 2 seconds after he sneezed. I went "man, what?", and he just immediately changed his demeanor all together. He stood tall, no more grin, no squinty eyes, and said "You're not as good-looking as you think you are, sporto", and walked away from me..

Confused as fuck, I went to the bathroom to clean my shirt best I could, and when I got out, I ended up walking by McBride and a security guard talking. I tried to make myself scarce, and walk by quick, but I overheard McBride say the words "Henley's The Boys Of Summer might be my.." and that's all I picked up.

I ended up having to throw my shirt away. Thanks, Danny McBride..

Wake up babe, new pasta just dropped.

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u/Campin_Buddy avatar

Pump your brakes kid, the man’s a national treasure.

u/Firecracker048 avatar

What do you mean you people?

What do YOU mean you people?

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Method Writing

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He has hands!

This is the best line of the movie. The character realizing that the entire reason they are where they are is based on a lie. And there’s nothing they can do about it.

u/Wirenfeldt avatar

I prefer Jack Black's "You grew hands?!" personally

Catch Me If You Can,.

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Big ass titties💥🔥

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MOTHER NATURE JUST SHIT HER PANTS SUIT

u/nutsacknut avatar

Pissed*

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TIL Ben Stiller was in Empire of the Sun.

When I saw this post I had to go to IMDB to verify he was in it, and to find the age between him and Bale (9 years)

You two just described my last 5 minutes to a T. Creepy.