I’m not sure who in the EMI marketing dept decided the contents of this “double forte” 2-CD pack. No matter. It’s terrific: great performances of Beethoven’s 7th featuring a young Colin Davis RPO, 1962), Schubert’s 9th with George Szell (Cleveland, 1970), and a bunch of lovely Rossini overtures, lovingly played by Davis (RPO, 1962).
The question isn’t whether it “works”; the question is whether you can resist it. A terrific bargain.
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Schubert: Symphony No. 9 'Great' / Beethoven: Symphony No. 7 / Rossini: Overtures
Franz Schubert
(Composer),
Ludwig Van Beethoven
(Composer),
Gioachino Rossini
(Composer),
Colin Davis
(Conductor)
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Disc: 1
1 | Sym No.9 in C, D.944, 'Great': I. Andante-Allegro ma non troppo - Cleveland Orch/George Szell |
2 | Sym No.9 in C, D.944, 'Great': II. ANdante con moto - Cleveland Orch/George Szell |
3 | Sym No.9 in C, D.944, 'Great': III. Scherzo (Allegro vivace) & Trio - Cleveland Orch/George Szell |
4 | Sym No.9 in C, D.944, 'Great': IV. Finale (Allegro vivace) - Cleveland Orch/George Szell |
5 | Ov-Guillaume Tell - Royal PO/Colin Davis |
6 | Ov-La Gazza Ladra - Royal PO/Colin Davis |
Disc: 2
1 | Sym No.7 In A, Op.92: I. Poco sustenuto-Vivace - Royal PO/Colin Davis |
2 | Sym No.7 In A, Op.92: II. Allegretto - Royal PO/Colin Davis |
3 | Sym No.7 In A, Op.92: II. Presto - Royal PO/Colin Davis |
4 | Sym No.7 In A, Op.92: IV. Allegro con brio - Royal PO/Colin Davis |
5 | Ov-Semiramide - Royal PO/Colin Davis |
6 | Ov-II Signor Bruschino - Royal PO/Colin Davis |
7 | Ov-L'italiana in Algeri - Royal PO/Colin Davis |
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- Is Discontinued By Manufacturer : No
- Product Dimensions : 5.91 x 5.12 x 0.79 inches; 4.55 Ounces
- Manufacturer : EMI Classics
- Date First Available : February 10, 2007
- Label : EMI Classics
- ASIN : B000002SED
- Number of discs : 2
- Best Sellers Rank: #429,967 in CDs & Vinyl (See Top 100 in CDs & Vinyl)
- #601 in Classical Overtures
- #15,778 in Symphonies (CDs & Vinyl)
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Reviewed in the United States on July 21, 2015
Five stars for the Davis Schubert and Rossini, 4.5 stars for the Szell Schubert. I prefer Szell's earlier Schubert ninth with Cleveland/Sony from the late fifties. It is somehat leaner and more vibrant than this remake, in fact more similar to the Davis Beethoven 7th on this EMI Forte disc. It is
early Davis from the same period as his first Mozart symphonies (e.g. #s 28 and 38), Mozart Concertone and Haydn Symphony 84 (Davis did not
record a Haydn #85 and his RCOA #s 86 and 87 have not yet been issued on disc , though one can still find his perfect #s 82 + 83/RCOA/Philips.
His Beethoven 7th here is equally valuable, not quite as wild Carlos Kleiber/Orfeo but intense and carefully structured without a runaway finale. It thus
reminds me of Munch's Boston SO/RCA version (still my favorite). The Rossini overtures here are also outstanding in a crowded field.
Peers in Schubert #9- Jochum/BRSO/DG; Erich Kleiber/Cologne, Krips/RCOA/Philips (only), Sawallisch/Dresden/Philips and VSO/Decca,
Szell/Cleveland/Sony, Furtwangler/BPO/DG
" Rossini Overtures: Szell/Cleveland/Sony, Reiner/CSO/RCA, Gamba/Decca, Marriner/ASMF/Philips, Van Beinum/RCOA/Decca
Cantelli/EMI, Toscanini/RCA
early Davis from the same period as his first Mozart symphonies (e.g. #s 28 and 38), Mozart Concertone and Haydn Symphony 84 (Davis did not
record a Haydn #85 and his RCOA #s 86 and 87 have not yet been issued on disc , though one can still find his perfect #s 82 + 83/RCOA/Philips.
His Beethoven 7th here is equally valuable, not quite as wild Carlos Kleiber/Orfeo but intense and carefully structured without a runaway finale. It thus
reminds me of Munch's Boston SO/RCA version (still my favorite). The Rossini overtures here are also outstanding in a crowded field.
Peers in Schubert #9- Jochum/BRSO/DG; Erich Kleiber/Cologne, Krips/RCOA/Philips (only), Sawallisch/Dresden/Philips and VSO/Decca,
Szell/Cleveland/Sony, Furtwangler/BPO/DG
" Rossini Overtures: Szell/Cleveland/Sony, Reiner/CSO/RCA, Gamba/Decca, Marriner/ASMF/Philips, Van Beinum/RCOA/Decca
Cantelli/EMI, Toscanini/RCA
Reviewed in the United States on December 9, 2018
buy it for my friend, who is a fan of this.
Reviewed in the United States on March 14, 2004
I would go to any lengths to get this double CD, if only just for the Beethoven 7th. Made in the early 1960s with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, I wonder if it isn't really Sir Thomas Beecham conducting. I've heard Davis make some wonderful recordings, especially of Berlioz and Sibelius (composers largely championed by Beecham in his lifetime, by the way), but his recording of the 7th in this EMI set is of another world altogether. The orchestra was Beecham's orchestra right up until his death, and it remained the finest orchestra around for several years after he died. This recording, and the unforgettable Sibelius 2nd made around the same time under Barbiroli, are testaments to its superiority. And I think the orchestra deserves much of the credit for the greatness of this recording of the Bethoven 7th. Davis does not indulge in Klempererish or Furtwanglerish rhythms and tempi, nor is he as great an architect as Karajan. And he is far more Classical than either Kleiber (Eric or Carlos). But there is an energy about this recording that keeps me on the edge of my seat throughout the performance, no matter how many times I hear it. If there are any interuptions (phones ringing, people talking at me, etc) I almost lash out in anger at being torn away from an unforgettable experience. Leave me alone! Let me enjoy it! No wonder the original Penguin Stereo Record guide awarded it the only rossette for the 7th amoung dozens of recordings.
Davis made 2 subsequent recordings of the 7th for Philips. Reviewers eagerly awaited them both times, hoping that age would make the interpretation and recording even more superior than the one reviewed here. But, sadly, both of those recordings proved utter disappointments. Which is what leads me to give Beecham and his orchestra more of the accolades than Davis. Davis inherited an orchestra whose skills were developed by a master, and even without the master conducting, they still played like he was there.
The set also has 4 marvelous Rossini overtures with the same team as the Beethoven.
The Schubert 9th with Szell and the Concertgebouw is very fine, if not quite as memorable as the Beethoven.
The sound is fabulous too. And the digital restoration is first rate.
This is a must have for any collection.
Davis made 2 subsequent recordings of the 7th for Philips. Reviewers eagerly awaited them both times, hoping that age would make the interpretation and recording even more superior than the one reviewed here. But, sadly, both of those recordings proved utter disappointments. Which is what leads me to give Beecham and his orchestra more of the accolades than Davis. Davis inherited an orchestra whose skills were developed by a master, and even without the master conducting, they still played like he was there.
The set also has 4 marvelous Rossini overtures with the same team as the Beethoven.
The Schubert 9th with Szell and the Concertgebouw is very fine, if not quite as memorable as the Beethoven.
The sound is fabulous too. And the digital restoration is first rate.
This is a must have for any collection.
Reviewed in the United States on February 24, 2012
I bought the Lp ( Beethoven's 7th symphony ) some 35 years ago and it has always been a favourite of mine. The performance, recording are absolutely first class. A must have for this symphony. The fill-ups of Rossini overtures are all very enjoyable.
Reviewed in the United States on March 16, 2009
This set is indispensible -not for Szell's 9th but for the electric performance of Beethoven's 7th by Colin Davis!! For my money it's in a class of it's own .The sound is great even by today's standards.If you don't have it ,get it. You'll see what I mean!!
Reviewed in the United States on March 19, 2005
Listening to Colin Davis' interpretation (before he became 'Sir' Colin) made me appreciate how great this symphony is. Beethoven thought of his Seventh Symphony as the finest thing he ever composed and listening to this classic EMI recording you would think so too. The sheer exhilaration of the first movement and the especially sombre second stand out. The third movement snaps at a jaunty pace and the breathless fourth movement leaves you glue to the seat.
The other symphony in this two CD set has George Szell with the then excellent Clevelanders performing Schubert's Great Symphony. Szell recorded this symphony before for CBS. That version is not as well recorded as this one. A superb issue.
The other symphony in this two CD set has George Szell with the then excellent Clevelanders performing Schubert's Great Symphony. Szell recorded this symphony before for CBS. That version is not as well recorded as this one. A superb issue.
Reviewed in the United States on February 3, 2000
George Szell was an incomparably dedicated champion of the Classical Symphony, and an incomparable orchestral trainer and leader. You get all these strengths in this crystalline but flexible Schubert Ninth. This was the second and more effective C- Major Szell recorded, with even finer playing and a more natural-sounding recording than on the CBS-Sony disc.Colin Davis (near the beginning of his career) recorded The Beethoven 7th. and Rossini overtures with the Royal Philharmonic at a great moment in its history after 15 years under Sir Thomas Beecham. The horn playing in the 7th. finale is really electrifying after a brilliantly energetic performance. The orchestra also had a distictive group of wind players who have a ball with the many solos in the overtures. Buy and enjoy these wonderful performances before "EMI-Warner" decides they are not profitable!
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ALFA147
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Reviewed in Japan on November 1, 2021
英オリジナルや独盤のレコードと比べてしまうと、平面的で貧相な音になってしまいます。マスターの劣化は避けられないか・・・でも名盤です。国内プレスはもっと酷い音になると思います。
ronaldhutchison
5.0 out of 5 stars
A thing of beauty and a joy for ever
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on June 17, 2015
I have this on a 'Concert Classics'L/P bought in the early 1960''s. Needless to say it has been 'played flat'over many hundreds of visits to the old Goldring Lenco 75.This issue is like recapturing my youth,as the same hair raising feeling is stimulated, specially when the horns peirce the orchestral tecture ,which in this symphony is often ! For fun
i compared the performance with others in my collection namely Toscanini cica 1937 ( NYPhilSo) Konwitcny 1958 ish LGO, Kleiber sr cbo
1950's,Kleiber son VPO 1980s and Guilini Chic SO 1971
All the above are fine but Davis in1960 is absolutely inside the music in a way even he never quite capured on record again.Toscanini in rather primitive sound has the same drive an sense of propulsion , but he ca n hector the music a bit which i find wareing . Giulini on the other hand plays all musc in a rather off hand manner and never seems to get the Chicago orchestra off the ground ,so to speak!, The whole thing just does not gel an listening to with any level of a critical ear leaves one very unsatisfied.
The Kleibers offer a very different experience .Father seems to have real understanding of how to get the orchestra into the air ok but he like Toscanini tends to hurry the music along by pressing the tempos , which i feel hardens the music somewhat and becomes wareing after a short time
Son comes nearest to Davis in sheer energy and drive,and either would be easy to live with,what he lacks are french horns anywhare as splendid as those of that vintage of the RPO..No recording i know of starts the symphony with such arresting command and Davis goes on to produce a wonderful depth of orchestral texture throught the work, not least insistant propulsoin over the last 32 bars of the final movement , all of which is underpinned by the magnificent lower strings.
Konwitcnys seventh was also issued on LP ( Fontana i recall) in the 60s but my copy was so 'wavy' it would not play! and was soon confined to the bin. Luckily my grandson, who ,sick of me,telling him how great a performance it was, acquired an German cd of all the Beethoven symphonies in a box, which hegave me one Christmas,(as is my wont, i digress!)
Sad to say my memory of this seventh must have been well of the mark, for having played many times the only impression left was how ordinary it was. The playing is solid tempi are judicius the recorded sound is accepable,whats not like?.The performance never take flight and content to make big ,beautiful sound the orchesrta simply rolls on on autopilot.
Davis trumps all these worthy performances with an innate feel for the music,and a sense that this is special occassion. I uderstand this was one of his first major outings with a great orchestra playing a great work . This is perhaps why all the majic came together,and propelled Davis to such a phenominal career which has left my collection with great records of Berlioz, Haydn and Sibelius as well as this magnificent Beethoven seventh,
Apols for any typos or misspels, it wisnae ma fault!!!1
i compared the performance with others in my collection namely Toscanini cica 1937 ( NYPhilSo) Konwitcny 1958 ish LGO, Kleiber sr cbo
1950's,Kleiber son VPO 1980s and Guilini Chic SO 1971
All the above are fine but Davis in1960 is absolutely inside the music in a way even he never quite capured on record again.Toscanini in rather primitive sound has the same drive an sense of propulsion , but he ca n hector the music a bit which i find wareing . Giulini on the other hand plays all musc in a rather off hand manner and never seems to get the Chicago orchestra off the ground ,so to speak!, The whole thing just does not gel an listening to with any level of a critical ear leaves one very unsatisfied.
The Kleibers offer a very different experience .Father seems to have real understanding of how to get the orchestra into the air ok but he like Toscanini tends to hurry the music along by pressing the tempos , which i feel hardens the music somewhat and becomes wareing after a short time
Son comes nearest to Davis in sheer energy and drive,and either would be easy to live with,what he lacks are french horns anywhare as splendid as those of that vintage of the RPO..No recording i know of starts the symphony with such arresting command and Davis goes on to produce a wonderful depth of orchestral texture throught the work, not least insistant propulsoin over the last 32 bars of the final movement , all of which is underpinned by the magnificent lower strings.
Konwitcnys seventh was also issued on LP ( Fontana i recall) in the 60s but my copy was so 'wavy' it would not play! and was soon confined to the bin. Luckily my grandson, who ,sick of me,telling him how great a performance it was, acquired an German cd of all the Beethoven symphonies in a box, which hegave me one Christmas,(as is my wont, i digress!)
Sad to say my memory of this seventh must have been well of the mark, for having played many times the only impression left was how ordinary it was. The playing is solid tempi are judicius the recorded sound is accepable,whats not like?.The performance never take flight and content to make big ,beautiful sound the orchesrta simply rolls on on autopilot.
Davis trumps all these worthy performances with an innate feel for the music,and a sense that this is special occassion. I uderstand this was one of his first major outings with a great orchestra playing a great work . This is perhaps why all the majic came together,and propelled Davis to such a phenominal career which has left my collection with great records of Berlioz, Haydn and Sibelius as well as this magnificent Beethoven seventh,
Apols for any typos or misspels, it wisnae ma fault!!!1
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