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I read short story "The Quiet Boy" by Nick Antosca (source material for upcoming horror movie "Antlers") and had a few questions, hoping someone might want to discuss!

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I'm really excited for the upcoming movie Antlers, based on the short story "The Quiet Boy" by Nick Antosca. I read it recently and loved it - it gave me the genuine creeps, as someone who usually doesn't scare easily. The short story is also available for free online.

A few questions I had after reading it:

What do you think happened to cause the dad and little brother to become monsters, or, how do you think the ritual went? We know that when Julia entered the house, she saw the pentagram with the goat eye symbols drawn on the dining table, with the empty bottles of rat poison. This would imply the pentagram had something to do with the ritual itself, and then Frank Weaver used the rat poison to kill himself and Todd or they were killed in the ritual, but what else specifically do you think happened? Also, who else may have been involved in terms of an occult person or whoever who had the ability to make it happen? My theory is that the Weaver's neighbor had something to do with it. When Julia goes to check out the Weaver house, the neighbor (creepy guy who seemed drugged out of it) warned against it and then went inside his own house, seemingly wanting to avoid being around. That gave a vibe to me that he may have been involved, like maybe he was the person who helped Frank Weaver do the ritual, and knew what was in the house.

Also, what do you think was going on with the "ONE MORE STEP" moment? When Julia was in the house, there were three rooms: Kitchen, Dining Room, Living Room, each increasingly darker as there was less light coming in from outside. Julia found the ritual stuff in the mostly-dark dining room, next to the pitch-black living room. The only thing she could see in the living room, before it got too dark to see, was the outlines of the dead bodies of Frank and Todd. But she also saw the shadow of what she thought was Todd, the little brother, running into that room. There was a sense of a malevolent presence (Frank) looming over her, but when she kept turning around there was nothing, and she felt that at its strongest when she was just one step away from the darkness. She then felt a sense that it was looming right above her shoulder, and she heard "ONE MORE STEP" and ran.

Clearly, the evil spirit(s) wanted her to step into the darkness, and Julia very narrowly missed a horrifying trap, but what would have happened? My first thought was that the monsters would get her there since their only weakness is light, so they could reach her in the dark, but that contradicts the other part about how the monsters are only unleashed when the bodies are taken out of the house.

And what the dead animals in the basement? The story Lucas wrote about "The Three Wolves" (or bears in the movie) seems like Lucas was bringing the dead animals to feed the monsters so they wouldn't go out and eat people, implying the dad and brother were in the basement eating the animals (or feeding off their pain etc), but that also contradicts the thing about how the monsters turn once the bodies get taken out.

Overall I really loved this story. My only peeve was that in the end, Julia should have lit bigger things on fire, like the sofa, to get a fire that lasts instead of just using papers. I found the story original and terrifying, and I really hope the movie raises the bar for horror movie intensity (although I'm sure they're probably changing the end). I want real terror at a new level here, intense enough to cause people running from the theater like they did during release of "The Exorcist."

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I just read this story too after seeing the movie trailer and really enjoyed it. I think it wasn't clear exactly how the ritual worked, so there may have been some contradictions. But I don't think it ever says that they only turn into monsters when their bodies leave the house, only that they can't get out. So this implies that both Frank and Todd, in their monster forms, were in the house. This is confirmed by the fact that Julia sees them and Lucas is feeding them. I guess the question is whether their bodies turned into monsters or if they became monsters separately, such as with their souls inhabiting new monstrous bodies entirely. I think it's the latter, but in either case, Julia was clearly in danger when she was in the house, and perhaps as you mentioned the only thing that was protecting her was the remaining light.

Agreed on the ending, though I think the idea is that these are monsters that can't be stopped anyway. What I took from it is that as long as Julia refused to give Lucas up, she was bound to die sooner or later, regardless of what she did. On the one hand, the ending is horribly bleak in a good way and I hope they'll keep it for the film. On the other hand, it seems it would be a bit anti-climatic on film and I'd be interested to watch another take on it with a different ending.

u/PinkFancyCrane avatar

I know I’m a year late to the party but I just listened to this story and I’m looking forward to seeing the movie adaptation. I’m curious if the dad and brother needed to be fed or if it was unnecessary but Lucas did it out of love for the people they used to be. I also wanted Julia to light some thing big on fire and I was a little confused as to if the dad and brother could manipulate energy which would explain the power and the flashlight going out. I would’ve like to know if they would be able to snuff out a fire with ease and the only thing they can’t challenge is the sun itself. I kind of hope they change the ending and get more background to the creatures and how Lucas‘s father and brother ended up like that. I would actually like to see Julia be able to fight back a bit better but I think these creatures are supposed to be unbeatable aside from sunlight. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the story!

u/xHelbergx avatar

Just saw the movie. Such a let down for me. Thought it changed waaaaay too much of the source material.

u/PinkFancyCrane avatar

Noooo!!! Can you share any details without spoiling it too much? Because even though I really did like the story, I did feel like it was too short and there was a lot that I would’ve loved to learn and understand and I hoped the movie would take what was already there and expand on it. I figured they would want to change some things; specifically the ending because I think people are not as eager to see movies if they know the ending and especially when it’s a horror movie and I was OK with a change in the ending as long as it wasn’t poorly written. I know a lot of people liked the bleakness of the ending of the story and I will admit that although I didn’t hate the ending I would be OK if it was done differently or maybe had one aspect that could be seen as positive.

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Where by chance did you listen to it, I couldn't find it on audible.

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I found it on Google Play; it was free to download which was a pleasant surprise. It does have sound effects that are a tiny bit distracting and it’s pretty short but I enjoyed it. If you listen to it and have any desire to discuss it please let me know because I would be delighted to have a conversation about it.

I will for sure keep that in mind, but I have to be honest, I'm terrible at actually getting around to things like this.

u/PinkFancyCrane avatar

No problem! I understand that you’re an adult and part of adulthood is being busy; I’m not at all offended if you don’t get in touch with me. I just wanted to put it out there in case it was something you were interested in; I figured it was easier if I made the offer upfront instead of trying to follow up with you on if you had listened to the book or not and if you were wanting to discuss the book. So the offer is there but no problem if you don’t take me up on it. I do hope you enjoy the story!

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Where can I find this short story? Was it published anywhere?

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here you go

Thank you!

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