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Fake job scams are getting more insidious and convincing, it's disgusting at this point, especially near Christmas
My mother recently became unemployed and was looking for jobs online which is a new thing for her, but she got an email offering an interview that didn't make any insane promises and it looks legit until you really dig into it, it's like they picked up on the things people know about these scams and tried to combat it.
the claims they offer for the position are nothing outrageous, no insane pay. they have a domain registered for the email, so it isn't just an outlook or Gmail. when you look into the domain it was registered in October 2021 though, the site is blank. the number they give has no info. the company they name has little to no info as well.
they are going by kindhirehr, and saying they're with the Canada ai group.
the main kicker for me is that this guys name changed inbetween emails in the same day. his last name went from one thing to another. it honestly could've fooled me at this stage if I weren't so skeptical. the name kind hire is a bit of a red flag in general, a little too on the nose.
but they're getting smarter. Please be careful out there.
Their initial email:
Thank you for applying to our Customer Service Advisor/Benefits Representative position. We received your application from JazzHR.
We've reviewed your qualifications and look forward to fully discussing the position with you, and learning more about you.
This position provides weekly pay, great benefits, and company events and trips. You will be working with potential clients, helping them choose the best benefits options for their families.
We are currently holding online interviews on Wednesday, December 15th at 12PM. Does this time work for you?
In case the hiring manager needs to reach out to you prior to your interview, please confirm your phone number: (NUMBER REMOVED)
Thank you again for your interest, and we look forward to hearing from you.
Our company name is The AI Canada Group.
Sad that criminal people exploit people like this. It should be much bigger focus to stop internet scams around the world
It was incredibly convincing like a lot of the flags it seemed they tried to pick up on and fixed until you dive further in.. :( this was her first run in too
I have been dealing with shit like this. I get emails with job offers. The thing that always seems off is that they are for positions related to my work experience, problem is that since I graduated I have been looking into jobs in my profession, not from work related to things I've done.
The thing that pisses me off is that since I am accepting most calls I get, I have had about 4 or 5 "interview" calls where they call me about a position I applied to. They ask me interview-like questions, and when I ask them about the position so I can pull up my application they ignore me. Finally they start asking for personal information or asking me to email it to them. They harass and continue to call me over and over again about the position asking me to send them my personal info.
This is a ruse to get personal info?
Partly. !job scam
These scams can evolve into many different ways. Could be a variation of fake cheque or advance payment. Or sometimes they do this to con you into unwittingly participating as a parcel or money mule in an elaborate scam setup.
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recently i've almost fallen for one, just got saved because of a post on this subreddit, its so sad that criminal people are exploiting working people like this.
Lol “Kindhire”…might as well have called it “NotIndiaHire”
One of the first results when you google kindhire hr is an article about fake job scams lol..
u/forgivemelake hi i think i got something similar in my inbox
cn i ask u something
They changed it to kindhiring hr
KindlyHire 😁
Did she apply to this job via JazzHR? It would be kind of odd that a recruiter would get an applicant from another recruiter. One thing to do is keep track of the agencies you use. Like if you apply via the Roger Dodger staffing agency and you get a bite ask where they got your name. If she really did use JazzHR she should let them know. No legit agency wants to get mixed up with scammers. I'm sorry this happened to her and I'm glad you were looking out.
Thank you for posting this and the entirety of the email. Putting whole sentences or a paragraph into a search engine was one of the ways I kept myself from being scammed during a job hunt once or twice. Your posting will help others that's for sure.
Just recently went through this it’s so frustrating especially when you really need a job. Luckily I caught on that it was a scam early on
I just sat in on an information session with them. The session was a video that played but I truly appeared that someone was on cam with you. I was skeptical, because so many people were asking questions in the chat and no one was being addressed by the speaker.
The job was selling insurance to union policy holders and the position seemed pretty decent in terms of duties but what is too good to be true often is just that.
In order to have this job you must be licensed to sell insurance in your province. The company offers a discounted rate foe this course for 250$.
It truly does seem legit - possibly the most legitimate scam I've ever seen. I don't consider myself gullible or naive either.
Watch yourself out there folks.
Was this with kindhire or a different scam?
Yes, Kindhire.
I see. My mom didn't sit in on the session because I told her it's very likely a scam. I guess the goal is to sell the course to you
I’ve been recently looking for jobs, so at first I didn’t think anything of it and honestly when I got this email I was a little confused but not too much, and I almost clicked the link for the “interview” in 2 days. But then I saw that sometimes it takes 20minutes to join the meeting and that it was okay and that threw me off. Thank god your post was here because who knows what they would’ve of could’ve hacked if I didn’t see this post.
You’re a life saver!!!
Edit: this guys name was Joe Allen and email joe@kindhirehr.com for Benefits Specialists/Customer Advisor Position….
I just got an email from "Joe Allen" 🤦♂️
omg I literally just got the same email from the same guy. I can't believe this guy is still out here doing the same shit a year later -______- thank you for your post! This would be my 3rd time almost getting scammed and the wonderful people of reddit have saved me again! lol Thank you! <3
Just got this email from Joe Allen for an interview for a job I didn’t remember applying for, but it could be me…
Hello Rex,
We appreciate your interest in our Benefits Consultant/Customer Service Advisor position. We would love to arrange an online interview with you this week. During the interview process, we will break down the position, as well as get to know you better.
Here is this week's availability:
Thursday, May 25th at 10AM Central Time.
Please confirm if you are available.
Also, in case we need to get a hold of you prior to your interview, please confirm your best phone number: (removed)
After confirming, we will send you a link to register for the virtual meeting.
Our organization's name is The Batten Group of TX.
If you do not want to be offered further interview options from us, please click here to Unsubscribe
Thank you and we look forward to hearing from you.
I set up the interview then decided to check for scams. Something just seemed off. More to follow. I’m going to do the interview anyway.
The Batten Group of Texas seems legitimate, but the website’s acting a little hinky.
What's the point? Waste time?
If it hasn't already been posted, myself and others have been contacted by Kamody (a real company in Poland) by their "North American" representative. All were different names, and used basic Gmail accounts. They all offer the same job of "Text Editor". It seems to be a bait and switch/piggyback scheme, DO NOT FALL FOR THIS JOB. It pays too much for too little work. You will not be asked to give any information upfront, and will be promised to be paid for your "work" after the first two weeks. After week one, they will tell you that either A) the job is no longer available, or B) your job position is being changed. They will ask you to become an eBay seller, and this is where they can snatch your bank account information!
Earlier this year, eBay and PayPal's agreement expired, I know this from being a long time seller. eBay will now only pay you directly to your bank account. I assume this is where the Kamody scheme starts, by asking you to become an eBay seller, and probably ask for your bank account information. This is not 100% confirmed, but all the information gathered points to JOB SCAM.
Beware, and happy holidays!
Storytime
Ugh, I fell for this, was a remote position, e-mail looked legit to me even. I have had a couple of classes for scam, and fraud. So here I was thinking I knew what I was doing and that this was legit.... lol. I got a "check" for almost two g's in the mail sent via priority mail. Like it's legit, right. The check looks pretty legit too. Except it has all of the "fake" check things. Check is from a company called Sojern Inc right, their addy info on the check matches. The bank info on the check matches too. So seems pretty legit. Except.. kicker the place that the "check" was sent from back to the priority mail, the sender. Royal Development Inc, but the address that is under that name is for some house in Salt Lake. Took that to my bank, was like IDK what to do with this... but I think this is a scam... (had legit checks to cash anyway so worked out)
I honestly feel like the two are tied, because that is the only sketch thing I've given my info to recently.
Good luck to her. It's insane out here!
fyi there is a number on the check that designates the bank, the issuing branch, and the account number that funds are being withdrawn from. Pretty much the only way to verify if a check is real is to call the issuing branch, give them the number and ask if it is legit. I don't know how to do this in the US but in Canada there is also a site that lists all the transit (branch/bank) numbers along with the location of the branch so it is possible to verify yourself as well.
Would I be wrong if I start suing the companies because it’s gotten outta hand. I had 4 in the same day I already got scammed outta info once but how many companies am I going to call to question their legitimacy before I say enough is enough. I’ll start with indeed and work my way down
I've noticed a lot of recruitment emails for jobs, descriptions are valid enough. When I email back, I receive no response. I've noticed there are a lot fo remote positions with companies I've never heard of and the descriptions are so vague. I can't tell if all of this is a scam or just simply fake. What is the purpose of fake jobs?
You just saved me much time thank you!!
Did you fall for them too? I'm glad some people have found this post. A few people have commented now saying they ran into this company
I got the email and I’ve been actively applying for jobs. It was very vague and so I tried to do a bit of research and it led me to your post! Basically the exact same message. The same exact position haha! And the company name is “Omid Group of CA” thank God for your post lol
I figured I'd post since I def could've fallen for it myself if it weren't for a couple of the things I mentioned not adding up. Like the guys name changing between emails haha. It's crazy how good they've gotten with these scams.. i really had to look closely and think hard. I figured I'd post here since at the time anyways there were no mentions of this particular one
Yes it’s ridiculous really! Can’t trust anything these days!
Just about fell for this one, exact email but name was Myles Caldwell! I was like oh great; something came along after all, resume here, application there….until I was wondering how was it using my email from the past, and not my current which is on my resume.
TGFG(oogle) and a r/ post…as I too almost fell prey to these scams!!!
I'm always amazed this is still going.. I'm really glad I posted this though. At the time there was literally nothing else about this, idk about now. I still frequently get comments from people about this shit. I hope I've saved a lot of people with this though and they aren't still having success with this
Here I am a year later, about to interview w these clowns. I’m so glad I found your post and that you started this thread. I was about to cancel some plans to accommodate this job interview. Thank god i searched it first, I would’ve been bummed. You deserve all the Karma.
Same with us! Just searched for her name and found this post thankfully
They be lit up on scamming people
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Because it was my mom's phone number not the scammers.... It says to confirm if they can contact her there.
Yeah, I misread. I had deleted my comment after I realized it was not the scammer's phone, but I obviously didn't delete it fast enough. 😉 My bad.
I received this recently from Brent <brent@kindhirehr.com> :
Thank you for your interest in our company. We would love to set up a virtual interview and answer any questions you have regarding this position as well as get to know more about you. In case the hiring manager needs to reach out to you prior to your interview, please confirm your phone number
This is for our Benefits Specialists/Customer Advisor Position with The Zuzick Associates of CT (I love the professional photo of the General Agent at the very bottom).
You will be helping potential clients decide on the best benefits services for their families.
Zuzick Associates of CT (I love the professional photo of the General Agent at the very bottom).I then asked Brent if this is the AIL insurance (pyramid scam) they sell. His first reply did not even touch upon question. Then he admitted that they are affiliated with AIL in the 2nd email.___
Then I received the below text (from 860-540-6346) the next day from "GL Group of CT" (cannot find a website for them).
First SMS: Hey , please confirm if you are looking for a remote position. We can interview this week. Reply STOP if you are no longer searching.
(I said yes to see where it was going to go)
Second SMS: Perfect, our company name is GL Group of CT, and this is for our Benefits Rep Position. We provide full training, weekly pay, benefits, and we are hiring long term. You will be helping potential clients choose the best benefits services for their families.
*Notice the identical boldfaced sentence. And there is not website for kindhirehr.com.
_______
UPDATE:
I received a reply from 860-540-6346. Their website is altig[dot]com. One review states it is mainly all commission
I see that people are still finding this post. At the time I made it I couldn't find anything about it which is why I initially made it. I was really worried someone would fall for it because it honestly looked legit compared to most scams like this, but I noticed a number of flags. Your message makes me think it's the type where they're getting people to pay for some scam course or certification and then obviously no job actually exists
Yeah, perhaps, but the Zuzick place has a real address, granted it is in RI but CT is in the name (but that does not mean much).
u/forgivemelake but in your post you state that 'before you posted this post on this sub' there were web search results that insinuated this was a scam , what were some of those results BEFORE you posted this post here
Also the email was from that same domain. I think it was Alex though? I noticed however the last name changed from one email to another lol.. really weird stuff
they are real "pros". I did not even both clicking the unsubscribe link in the email (domain was applicantstream[dot]com) in case it was a trap.
I'm curious what really set it off for you it was a scam? Also was it the kindhire that lead you here? I tried to give as much info as I could and pasted the email word for word. it really pissed me off since it was my mom who is less tech savvy but honestly even to me I could see myself falling for it. It looks legit. Until you really narrow in. People shouldn't have to look that deeply for a fucking interview lol .. sad world. I wonder how many people have fallen for this :(
Assuming you are not a shill for the scammers and using my research technique to know how to better bait people. ;-P , 100% joking...
Here is was my process:
I looked up 'The Zuzick Associates of CT'. Saw the address was in RI. Thought Chilynn Acevedo's photo on the About page was ridiculous, but the real smoke that led me down the rabbit hole was this Forbes "award" for 'happiest companies to work for'. I noticed the AIL at the bottom of that image and wondered what it was. That led me to the AIL insurance pyramid scam. I actually did not notice the kindhirehr email domain until today (I'm lightly kicking myself for initially missing it as I am usually on top of that sort of stuff, but I'll get over it). Searching for kindhirehr led me to your post. And the rest as they say, is history. ;-)
So THANK YOU!
It also sounded like all commission. Yeah, truly sad.
Thanks for sharing this post! I just got an email from them as well! I was skeptical because they emailed me on Easter Sunday which didn't sit right with me and when I checked the domain, I couldn't find anything about this company until I found this post.
"Hello (NAME REMOVED),
Thank you for your interest in our company. We would love to set up a virtual interview and answer any questions you have regarding this position as well as get to know more about you.
In case the hiring manager needs to reach out to you prior to your interview, please confirm your phone number: (NUMBER REMOVED)
As for the interview, we have:
Wednesday, April 20th between 9AM and 11:30AM EST
Which time works best for you?
We will provide you with a link to register for the virtual meeting info once you confirm.
Our company name is The Toronto AO Group, and this is for the Benefits Representative / Customer Service Advisor position.
If you are no longer interested in a position with us, please click here to Unsubscribe and not receive any further interview options.
I just got this today. I’m so fucking sad and tired. At least two companies did this to me today. I’m grateful for threads like these, but I’m just trying to work. I just need a job. This is so cruel.
I should add that I never applied to this job which was another red flag for me.
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I just got this email too! I also don't remember applying for anything HAHA.
Thank you. I was about to waste my time responding to them.
Thank you for this post! I have been actively applying for jobs & keep getting hit with scam emails.
Just got an email today from the same email domain that you posted. I copy and pasted the email and this is the first post that came up. Thanks for saving my time
I'm glad it helped. I still frequently get comments on this post mentioning they nearly fell for it, there are some replies that also add more info. I'm glad that at least some people must have been saved from scams through this post. It's almost quite convincing at first but there are things that don't add up, it was one of the more elaborate ones I've seen tbh
Here to say thank you for posting this because I just got an email from Brent@kindhirehr.com Thankfully putting this email into Google took me to this Reddit right away screw them for preying on anyone but like damn- I've applied to soooo many places and it looks like one of the companies I have previously applied to.
There were little things that let me know it was kinda suss. Like- no signature in the email. Also who only offers one time for an interview?
I'm just glad that I've developed a habit of being suspicious of everything.
Here's the email:
Hi ____,
Thank you for applying to our Benefits Specialist/Customer Service Advisor position.
We've reviewed your qualifications and look forward to fully discussing the position with you, and how you will be a great fit for our team.
We are currently holding in-person interviews on Wednesday, June 15th at 10AM or 12PM. Does this time work for you?
In case the hiring manager needs to reach out to you prior to your interview, please confirm your phone number: ()
Thank you again for your interest, and we look forward to hearing from you.
Our company name is The AI Team of Oakland.
Interview address: 80 Swan Way, Suite 130, Oakland, CA 94621
If you are no longer interested in a position with us, please click here to Unsubscribe to not receive any further interview options.
I almost fell for this. Received an email from joe@kindhirehr.com I "set up" the "interview" but something about his replies seemed very odd, so decided to Google him, this is what I got. I cancelled the "interview" I'm so relieved. Thank you!
I just got an email exactly like this, this morning! It's still happening unfortunately :(
Sounds like I got this one. They’re hosting a webinar. Anyone know what risks there are in joining one of these scam webinars?
I think the scam is mainly them trying to sell you some courses they have. I wouldn't bother with it
Thank you for posting I recieved this today, I never applied for the position and the my phone number is 4+ years old. If it feels like a scam it is a scam. I always research before I respond to jobs. This is what was sent today.
brent@kindhiringhr.com Unsubscribe
11:33 AM (26 minutes ago)
to me
Hello Ariel,
We appreciate your interest in a position with our company. We would love to set up an virtual interview to go over the position, as well as get to know more about you.
Here is this week's availability:
Monday, February 13th at 11:30AM.
Please confirm if this works for you
In case the hiring manager needs to reach out to you prior to your interview, please confirm your phone number: (14054315619)
Thank you again for your interest, and we look forward to hearing from you.
Our company name is The Olu Partners of MD.
If you do not want to be offered further interview options from us, please click here to Unsubscribe
Thank you and we look forward to hearing from you.
Man they're still going with these? I didn't expect so many people to still comment on this almost a year later, I'm glad I made the post. When I initially posted it I found nothing in regards to it but I've received so many comments now of people mentioning the name. It did look quite legit at first but there's so many red flags lol
This felt like an out-of-country operation. It gave off those early 2000s email schemes. lol
I just got this email today, I'm glad I decided to check the email address out first instead of blindly replying because I ve been looking for a job for months now.
Thank you for posting this...
I just received this email from: Myles Caldwell myles@kindhiringhr.com
We appreciate your interest in a position with our company. We would love to set up an online interview to go over the position, as well as get to know more about you.
Here is our interview availability:
Wednesday, March 15th at 8AM, 11AM or 4PM EST.
Please confirm if this works for you
*Please note that this position is open to Canadian residents only*
If we need to get a hold of you prior to the interview, please confirm your contact number:
Once you confirm, we will provide you with a link to register for the virtual meeting.
Our company name is Hamilton Management Group, and this is for the Customer Service Advisor/Benefits Specialist position.
If you are no longer searching and do not want to be offered further interview options from us, please click here to Unsubscribe
I searched Hamilton Management Group, and it's located in Washington, DE. However the job is open to Canadian residents only... seemed fishy so I looked up Kindhire and this was the 2dn post to come up on the Google search. Sigh.
I just emailed the real estate agent listed on their website. Forwarded the email and told him someone is using his company name to job scam people.
Same person, same text.I agreed to a 4 pm spot, and had hoped for some fun interaction with them.
Hi tired_c,
Your registration has been confirmed for the event: HMG Career Overview 03.
We're excited to see you and look forward to you getting details about the positions we typically offer. At the right time, enjoy a coffee and maybe prepare to take a few notes, and if you fill out the form at the end we can set up an interview within the next few days
Good luck.
Here are your registration details:
Upcoming Session Starting On:
Wednesday, March 15th 2023 @ 4:00PM EDT
But looking at the email, it would be a waste of time - a webinar about the company, likely disgusting American income life alternative or daughter company.
I got similar email from
from: Hamilton Management Group notifications@demio.com
reply-to: kanaanhamilton.financial.VfuQ45@mail.demio.com
below is email -
Your registration has been confirmed for the event: HMG Career Overview 01.
Here are your registration details:
Upcoming Session Starting On:
Monday, April 3rd 2023 @ 12:00PM EDT
they shared some demio website link.
I got the exact email same as you stated
anyone joined the overview by some demio link?
did you attend this?
It’s an AIL pyramid. I dunno, did they figure out that that it is hard to find victims, when they go via their name (American income life ) but they use a lot of side companies nowadays.
Just check Reddit, terrible place to go to IMO.
Thanks for that! I got invited to the video for today at 12 lol
Just received the same email.
Sharing new job scam email that came in today I havent applied for anything for months as I have a IT job and already thought it was weird.
From myles@kindhiringhr.com - Myles Cadwell
Subject: We have limited interview options this week. Does Monday, March 20th at 11AM, 4PM or 7PM work for you?
Hello (your first name),
We appreciate your interest in a position with our company. We would love to set up an online interview to go over the position, as well as get to know more about you.
Here is our interview availability:
Monday, March 20th at 11AM, 4PM or 7PM EST.
Please confirm if this works for you
Please note that this position is open to Canadian residents only
If we need to get a hold of you prior to the interview, please confirm your contact number: (your number)
Once you confirm, we will provide you with a link to register for the virtual meeting.
Our company name is Hamilton Management Group, and this is for the Customer Service Advisor/Benefits Specialist position.
If you are no longer searching and do not want to be offered further interview options from us, please click here to Unsubscribe
He emailed me too!!
Just got the same email lol
Same email. from joe@kindhiringhr.com for a position I never applied for. Just be on the lookout, everyone.
Hello Keri,
We appreciate your interest in our Benefits Consultant/Customer Service Advisor position. We would love to arrange an online interview with you this week. During the interview process, we will break down the position, as well as get to know you better.
Here is this week's availability:
Tuesday, March 21st at 11AM Central Time.
Please confirm if you are available.
Also, in case we need to get a hold of you prior to your interview, please confirm your best phone number: (19366351002)
After confirming, we will send you a link to register for the virtual meeting.
Our organization's name is The Batten Group of TX.
If you do not want to be offered further interview options from us, please click here to Unsubscribe
Thank you and we look forward to hearing from you.
Joe Allen joe@kindhiringhr.com
Thank you and we look forward to hearing from you.
I just got the same one.
I just got an email from these scammers.
Thank you very much for the heads up.
Seems like there's a lot of comments recently again form people saying something similar.. wild this is still going. When I initially posted I found nothing. I've gotten multiple replies this week from people who have received emails from them under various diff names
Just got the brent@kindhiringhr.com email today about a job....so this is STILL going on....same thing customer service/benefits consultant gig...literally worded just like these other templates you guys posted. Thanks everyone!
I literally got my email at the same time! But mine was from Rick@kindhiringhr.com!
I received the same email from Brent too, LOL!
Same. I just got one now.
I just got an email from this guy today!
A year later and this is still relevant. I also received a few of these.
Just got an email from someone at kindhire named Joe. Im really glad I looked them up before I replied asking questions because I did apply on Indeed, but the name of the employer he mentioned doesn't match. Red flags everywhere.