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47 was in Guatemala, carrying out a contract against a global drug kingpin. Thinking the dog was simply a stray, he detonated the explosives rigged throughout the house, killing the drug kingpin and his companions. John watched in horror as his dog ran to the house just before it was blown up.
47 fled the scene and is now back at the ICA safe house. He has been informed that the dog caught in the crossfire was owned by none other than John Wick by Diana, who swallowed a cyanide pill promptly after delivering the message.b
Who would win this scenario?
Love John Wick, but there are many times he would've been killed if not for dumb luck or some plot device. 47 claps him
47 is composed of the deadliest men ever, trained rigourously in a Romanian facility with no parents and no emotion
John Wick is Keanu Reeves who lost his dog
Stupid, sure, but I thought it was just funny to see 2 iconic characters most people find cool fight, no matter how stupidly OP 47 is
True. If this was in a movie 47 would have already lost the moment the dog died.
If this was a movie, the dog would have never died because 47 would have made the target die by accident.
47 making it look like the target killed the dog so John gets him
That completely depends on the title of the movie, tbf.
I cant help but picture 47 just like contineously npc running against a wall while I read that cause thats how it looks like when a lot of players get to control this rigorously trained expert killer.
NPC running against a wall while getting shot by 7 guards for accidentally equipping his pistol
john sick had extensive training while growing up as an orphan and he served as special ops in the military…????
Well yeah but that's John sick not John Wick isn't it
John sick is making me ROFL harder than it should.
Wtf r u talking about my child
The most egregious of this was in the third movie where he was fighting the two ninjas at the end. They literally had him dead to rights, but allowed him to get up because they were fans of him. Literally, could have ended him right there lol, but there are plenty more examples too in the series.
In fairness John Wick had gone through absolute hell to get to that point and the ninjas wanted to have a honorable fight not an easy win. Yes, it’s crazy but a lot of the assassins have a code, and a respect for one another. Like how John chose not to kill Cassian.
I love that fight and i like that in return he didn't kill them either. It made sense honestly as they didn't want a cheap easy win against they're hero they wanted an actual fight.
Yeah I kind of liked the fact that they put honor over getting the actual kill. Made them feel more like martial artists instead of just the two mooks he has to go through before the final boss lol.
I agree, don't get me wrong, I love the entire series, but John often has conveniences like that protecting him lol.
Those actors were from the Raid series too, so I was also glad he didn't kill them either because I loved them in those movies.
Funny thing that's my one nitpicky thing about the fight is the fact these guys are from The Raid and because of that i've seen what these guys can really do, i totally get why they had to but you could really tell as a Raid fan how toned down and held back they were. It was really cool they were in the film though and i always love it when anyone from The Raid shows up in something and gets to fight.
Wick is stupidly lucky and experienced enough that I think he'd survive any ambushes/poisonings 47 would be able to throw at him 9/10 times, and from there Wick takes the straight fight since 47 can never get near Wick's kill count without cheesing the dumb AI.
I give it to Wick 7/10. . .
The first time 47 plays this mission. :P
Hard agree. But how many playthroughs until 47 can get SASO in under 30 seconds?
John Wick also doesn't have a homing spinning briefcase.
So I actually think John Wick has better feats in a straight up fight, especially in 4, although 47 is still insane in a hand to hand or gunfight. Just not ‘kill literally several hundred guys over a weekend in a series of gunfights where he is generally surrounded by dozens and dozens of men with superior firepower’ good.
But 47 seems much better at the actual assassination side of things.
In a stand up gunfight, Wick is practically invincible. But there are multiple times in the series someone gets the drop on Wick knowing that it’s suicide to charge him headlong, and only dumb luck saves John.
47 would assess Wick, realize it’s too risky to take him on fairly, and win by fighting unfairly.
Also in Wick's favor is his body armor; since Blood Money, 47 hasn't utilized personal body armor as personal equipment from his stash and safehouse.
He also has greater durability feats. He regularly gets run over, then just gets up and keeps fighting, and he’s survived being shot and then thrown off like a seven story building.
how does john wick have better feats ? he struggled one on one against most of his real enemies.
In straight up fights he has better feats. He can be surrounded and take on like 50 guys with machine guns at once armed with just a pistol, and survive getting shot repeatedly, run over repeatedly, and kicked off like a seven story building.
In John Wick 4 he kills like 150 guys and almost half of them are in one sequence near the end.
In John Wick 4 he became a legit superhuman if he wasn’t already.
Which is why Wick wins in an open gunfight.
But Agent 47 could still win by just being a better sneaky bastard/more resourceful than Wick.
"He can be surrounded and take on like 50 guys with machine guns at once armed"
that is not better feats. accuracy itself and constantly shooting is not a feat in strength , speed, reaction or durability or training.
human with total accuracy and luck can kill 10.000 gunmen around him just like john wick (without getting shot like in head ) and can still be worse than agent 47 or someone at that level. he just repeatedly shot people that were coming.
important question is if john wick showed superhuman level of speed , strength or intelligence ... does he have better strength, speed and intelligence feats than agent 47 ?
"In John Wick 4 he kills like 150 guys and almost half of them are in one sequence near the end"
ok but that is just perfect accuracy + luck .john wick struggled many times one on one .he barely defeated cassian or caine in minute. agent 47 killed 3 of his equals, one in 3 seconds.
agent 47 also seems much better in accuracy than john wick. he kicked a gun and forced its bullet to hit his handcuff chain.
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"In John Wick 4 he became a legit superhuman if he wasn’t already."
but agent 47 is already superhuman.
The fall in 3 should have killed him period.
Wick would need to find 47 first. He is a master of disguise, and then he will sneak up on Wick who will be forever remembered as the guy who got killed with a target tracking briefcase by a guy disguised as a birthday clown.
Master of changing jackets and casually rubbing the back of his head while looking down
Which causes him to become undetectable even to people who just saw him
Wick wouldn't even know who killed him before he died.
John Wick is hyped as a master assassin, but really, he's more gunfighter and hired muscle than assassin.
mater mentioned????
The spelling mistakes in this thread are killing me lol.
Usually they get ignored too but not this time lmao
They meant Mater Suspirium.
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We know what you meant, OP is just having a laugh
That's what he wants you to think. Tell me, why should he try to assassinate, while being filmed? If he wants to assassinate someone he does this while not being filmed. My proof is that there is no proof.
John Wick doesn't know he's in a movie.
The one time he tries to actually assassinate somebody, he got caught on his way out; in fact, he's so (rightly) sure he'll get caught on his way out that he stashes weapons along his exit route.
That's what he wants you to think. You fell right into his trap.
Why edit your perfect comment coward
John Wick has insane feats of durability and strength.
And that would be helpful if 47 wasn't going to
Poison him
Electrocute him
Blow him up in a gas explosion
And that's just a few of the methods he could use in John's own house.
If 47 is already gone then Wick isn’t finding him unless 47 wants him to. And in that situation 47 has every advantage. 47 isn’t going to get into a shootout or fist fight with Wick, he’d just as happily poison his coffee or shoot him with a rifle from a mile away.
yeah but jogn wick is being filmed so he has polt armour
Jogn wick? Never heard of them.
Wickem? I barely know them.
he's wick but jogging
Surely you've heard of him. He's got polt armor.
Bourne vs Wick is more in par. 47 blows his head off. Or posions him dressed as a French maid.
What are these downvotes 😂 you all not understand feats?
I think the spectrum of movie dudes in this category goes something like:
Equalizer > Wick > Bourne
(Wick and Bourne is dependent on if it ends up in CQC - If Bourne can get close and get it to hand v hand combat only then he will win 8/10 times, but if Wick stays far enough away and uses a pistol then Bourne is absolutely screwed.)
Equalizer claps them both even in a 2v1.
Not the Queen Latifah one.
Wtf…
Yeah, I mean the end of equalizer 2,for example. Ain't no way wick or Bourne are pulling that off as easily as Robert did.
But then 47, being a video game character, is just levels above them all
Wick can potentially beat 47 in a fight. The problem is that 47 is ten times smarter and more strategic than anyone Wick usually goes up against, so finding 47 and getting the drop on him would be extremely difficult. 47 literally lives for his work.
P.S. This is why I'm not a fan of any of the Hitman films. They turn 47 into an action hero. That's not who he is. He doesn't get into random sword fights or shootouts. At least not canonically. He kills you before you know he's there. He's a chess master.
Canonically, 47 is so good at his job his existence is just rumors and speculation.
My 47 is only rumours and speculation because there are no witnesses left and no camera footage.
Isn't 47 like enhanced in some way so he's stronger than a normal dude? Wick is decent at hand to hand but he's not as good as mccall from equalizer and imo 47 would be too strong for him
John Wick is awesome, but he gets hit by a car like twice in each movie, low diff for 47.
True, but what if 47 doesn't have a car 🤯
I just meant john's reaction speed isn't that great. He's also been thrown through 14 windows and shot 13 times. I don't know a lot about 47, but he gets a lot of hype as a master assassin. I feel like 47 can solo.
Yeah but what if 47 has no windows to defenestrate Wick with
I love that you just knew the word defenestrate.
John has also been thrown to the ground as many times as he's been shot. As long as 47 can get close enough, easy w.
I like using the phrase “can solo” but in a 1v1 whoever wins technically soloed lol
Ah, but consider this: 47 would probably die when hit with a car.
Maybe, but please consider the following: some dude calculated 47's max running speed to be around 14.4 feet per second, meaning he'd (probably) be able to leap out of the car's way in about a third of a second (as opposed to just standing there like a goddamned bowling pin).
Not a goddamn fucking chance if his run speed is 14.4 feet per second, that’s atrocious.
For reference, that’s about 4.4 m/s. Which means at a running start, he can finish a 100m sprint in a bit under 23 seconds.
High schoolers in track run twice that fast
I think that speed was calculated from him doing a 10 mile run.
There is no fight, John wick buries his dog that tragically died in an accident where unfortunately the dog lay down in a puddle in the upstairs bathroom that just happened to have a damaged car battery in it.
Pretty sure 47 could just apologize since the dog wasn't the target and Wick understands how the assasination business goes.
sowwy mr wick 🥺👉👈
47 is super human.
I mean, how many times has John Wick been shot now, much less stabbed or grievously wounded? Motherfucker is superhuman for that alone. He's not an easy man to kill.
Agent 47 in a city would never be found. Sure, John Wick may find the occasion person in their underwear stored in a trash bin or sewer manhole, but 47 would be 4 disguises ahead of him. He'll never see it coming, he'd buy a donut and it'll pull a gun on him and shoot him in the head.
Typically John’s first step in taking revenge is seeking information. In every movie he relies heavily on intel provided by his allies to know where to begin his rampages. John is smart but he’s not really a detective.
This is 47, nobody knows who he is or what he looks like, he doesn’t have any friends or coworkers, he doesn’t have any motives. John Wick simply would never find 47.
Honestly, John would probably go after that random kingpin’s surviving associates as his revenge. They had it coming anyway.
47, from a safe distance, observes John Wick murder his way through Guatemala’s underworld and really doesn’t need to get involved further. Mission accomplished, go home.
Exactly, hell this may have even been 47 plan all along
John Wick loves his dog, don’t get me wrong. But I’m pretty sure he was mad someone purposely killed his dog. He was pretty rationale and would recognize that a fellow professional may have accidental collateral damage.
47 is just as if not more superhuman and competent as hell at disguising himself/getting away from people, and just a better killer. Wick will never find 47 unless he wants to be found, and even if he gets found hed still beat John.
47 destroys . Jon wick is very overrated
Who's this Jon Wick? Is he the brother of John Wick?
Snow got a new name but still knows nothing.
"Hell, where is that dumb mother fucker...Wait, why is there a bald clown in this German Rave party?"
John Wick last thoughts before being crushed by a spotlight.
Non-target killed
Non-target killed
Non-target killed
Non-target killed
To be fair 47 VS Wick could potentially be turned into a movie (47 movies are ass anyway) so he could survive due to plot armour
Only because FOX (who owns the film rights to the franchise) has no understanding of the franchise.
FOX keeps trying to turn it into an action movie franchise, when it should be a thriller, possibly a horror movie. Just imagine a movie shot found footage style with surveillance cameras and such, and you know who the target is but not how they're going to die or when 47 is going to show up, and you get to watch the events of the movie unfold through the found footage, and you have to pay attention or you'll miss 47 passing through in disguise. Or, a movie that's basically a slasher flick, except it's 47 and you basically almost never see him at all except for in the very briefest of flashes.
Okay now I want Final Destination but Death is just 47
Just depends on who’s movie it is
Ah, the old "Stan Lee" approach to death battles
Wick got clapped by a bunch of Russian teenagers who snuck into his house. Sneaking into houses and beating people to death is what 47 does.
47 would be dressed up as Laurence Fishburne knocking Wick off a rooftop by releasing pigeons in his face to make it look like an accident.
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47 without Diana would be gimped, but 47 doesn't need Diana for actual field work and to know he is being hunted.
Even if John Wick were to learn 47 killed his dog, Wick is dead.
Admittedly I didnt pay much attention to the story, but isnt 47 without Diana for most (all?) Of Hitman 3?
47 pretty much has zero access to Diana in Absolution, for story reasons.
Ah, maybe my wires were crossed
I mean, 47 also has limited access to Diana in Hitman III (she acts as handler only for the first 2 missions), but he also has a different handler for the following missions. He does, however, operate with no handler for the final two missions of Hitman III, but the last one isbasically just a single long train .