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Post grunge was from 1997 to 2010. Grunge was 1991-1996. Post grunge lasted way longer. The Telecommunications act of 1996 stopped true grunge after that except underground.
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Did post-grunge last that long? I think of post-grunge as being Creed and Nickelback and Puddle of Mudd. Also Bush and Silverchair, if you want to go back a little earlier. But all of that seemed to last a few years, mostly from the late '90s and into the very early 2000s.
I also don't think the Telecommunications Act stopped grunge. It contributed to the mainstreaming of music, but grunge stopped mostly because of infighting within the bands, and heroin addiction. Also, late Gen X got bored and moved on to more underground punk and indie rock.
Three Days Grace and Breaking Benjamin were still pretty popular in the late 2000s
It might be that it lasted much longer. I'm asking because I truly don't know.
Puddle of Mudd’s cover of About a Girl is so embarrassing. Never fails to make me laugh.
I actually like silverchair though. They’re one of the better “post grunge” bands.
Yeah, I think Silverchair gets some respect out of most of those. They were teens younger than me when they started, and from what I've heard they evolved throughout their career and developed a more sophisticated sound.
It lasted that long on the modern rock stations. In the 00s, there were separate rock stations playing new songs and post grunge continued on that far.
Were they putting out new music though? I tend to think of a genre's era as lasting as long as the bands within it are putting out fresh stuff and have a receptive audience.
Yes, these were new songs and they kept coming out. People don't get that in the 00s, lots of rock was around on the rock stations.
I feel like a lot of 'post' genres end up lasting longer than the genres they're riffing off of. Like, post-punk probably lasted longer than punk -- and it also served as a foundation for a lot of later '80s music.
Good points, on top of what you said- I know Layne Staley passed in the early 00s, and Chris Cornell went to Audioslave, Eddie Vedder changed his vibe, and the later 90s seemed more maximalist compared to early/mid 90s. Perhaps “grunge” morphed with the more maximalist late 90s/Y2K era with numetal or went Indie? Like Woodstock 99 vibes/line up would have never made sense in the early/mid 90s which we classically associate with grunge. Again I’m just spitballing.
No, grunge didn't morph. Layne fell into serious addiction long before he died in the early '00s. Pearl Jam was fighting. Woodstock '99 was the complete opposite of anything grunge -- that wasn't Gen X, that was Millennial NuMetal stuff.
There was a very strong shift/end to grunge in the mid '90s, and then it was a different culture in the mainstream. Post-grunge wasn't a continuation of grunge -- it was a mainstream "take" on grunge. Most people who had liked grunge didn't like post-grunge.
I guess that’s what I was trying to say. You were a young adult at that time while I was a kid, so I will take your word. Curious to what/why the push to end grunge in the mid 90s was?
I posted this on another thread -- it's a SPIN article on how the alternative/grunge "bubble" burst in the mid-'90s: https://www.spin.com/2021/09/1996-alternative-bubble-burst/
There wasn't really a push, it was just several things coming together -- Kurt Cobain's death, young Gen X getting older and becoming interested in different music -- that contributed to a shift in the culture. Also, the oldest Millennials were becoming teens at that point and were embracing Nu Metal and different genres of music than Gen X had been into.
So there was kind of splintering off of what the old crop of teens (late Gen X) were getting into as college-age people and what the new crop of teens (early Millennials) were getting into as high school kids in terms of music. And, at the same time, the grunge bands were kind of falling apart anyway due to infighting, drug addiction, Cobain's death, etc.
Kurt cobain’s death had a lot to do with it.
It did but post grunge lasted way longer than actual grunge is what I mean.