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I'm watching The Fugitive (1993) for like the millionth time. What's a whodunit film that you know how it ends and still enjoy watching?
The Fugitive (1993) is a thriller that in my opinion is one of the best movies Harrison Ford has ever been in. It's up there with Witness and his most memorable roles. The writing is sharp, the characters relatable, and the story is believable. The performances are topnotch, especially that of Tommy Lee Jones. The villain is not your typical villain, nor is the hero your typical hero, yet I was glued to the screen from the beginning to the end. No scene is wasted, it seems to me, and everything contributes to making this great film. A friend of mine studying film says they use The Fugitive's screenplay for her screenwriting class. I'm not surprised.
Often knowing who done it is reason to no longer enjoy a movie but this is not the case here, as I still enjoy watching it very much.
Have you seen this old movie? Any other movies you feel the same way toward?
Inside Man, The Usual Suspects, Zodiac
Just saw Inside Man again and it is SO GOOD. From the very beginning, with the Indian singing over the completely unglamorous shot of New York, you know "oh this is not going to be one of those standard New York movies"
The song from the beginning (Chaiyya Chaiyya) is a bop, and the movie it’s originally from (Dil Se) is phenomenal.
fun fact this song is composed by the same singer/songwriter/composer who won oscar for jai ho- slumdog millionaire
A R Rahman
A.R. Rahman is the man. So talented.
Took me so long to watch Zodiac because though I love David Fincher and knew he'd have done a great job I also know enough about the Zodiac that it's doomed to have an unsatisfactory ending. Still dammit if Fincher didn't make a captivating film.
Man I loved the ending even if it isn’t “satisfying” in the typical Hollywood way. And not knocking that style either, sometimes it’s nice just to see the bad guy get what’s coming to them. But it was really consistent with how dark and hopeless the whole movie seemed. The part with him in the basement listening to the creeking floorboards is just excellent.
“Not many people have basements in California”
“I do”
That damn segway style shot, only problem with Inside Man.
“Segway style shot”? You mean Spike Lee’s double dolly shot? That shot is iconic.
Maybe it's iconic, but it doesn't look very great
Spike Lee’s entire career lol
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
Agreed If we’re talking about the Fincher version.
Not the sharpest (probably Knives out) nor the biggest mindfuck (definitely Memento) but definitely the moodiest. And my favorite whodunit/detective movie by far. The plot is enjoyable but it’s the mood that’s the biggest sales point. And it gives almost unlimited rewatch value. I always love the scene toward the beginning where they approach the manor in the dead of the winter while an eerie music plays and you know he’s getting in a dark mystery. Engrossing.
I really prefer the cast of David Fincher’s. We were just talking about this movie, it’s never streaming
I prefer pretty much everything about the Fincher version
The cinematography as usual with Fincher is super moody.
The decompressed structure is exactly what I want of a detective story.
The clothes /sets are absolutely brilliant and dripping with style. Immediately caught my eyes.
The music is one of my favorite OST and my favorite Trent Raznor OST.
The performance are super solid. Nobody does a patriarch better than Christopher Plummer. And I love that scene in the morning with Lisbeth one feet in the sink but having set the table, Blomvkist walking with a freshly fucked look and How they look silently at each other : “I like working with you. “ I like working with you too” Superb chemistry.
A bit of a happenstance, but the bittersweet ending is pitch perfect for the story told.
Fincher pitches a perfect game. Favorite detective movie.
The original is better.
Even though I'm a huge Fan of Fincher, I've never actually seen his version. I have to admit the original was very good and I don't really want to see an alternate version.
I'm so disappointed we didn't get the other 2 movies
Kiss, Kiss, Bang Bang
Shane Black, nailed it with this and The Nice Guys.
He then gave us the abomination called The Predator. Imagine making the worst Predator movie when Alien vs Predator 2 exists.
Fincher directed Alien 3 and Ridley has Alien: Covenant, so even great talents have massive missteps at times
look up idiot in the dictionary, you know what you'll find?
A picture of me?
"No the definition of idiot which you fucking are"
I'm also too knee deep in pussy, I just like the name.
Beautiful line delivery throughout this movie
With RD squared and Valley Kilmers?!
God I love this movie
Minority Report is an underrated whodunit movie imho!
The overhead scene of the spider robots going into different rooms and scanning people's eyes is so good.
The fighting couple that stops, gets scanned, and immediately starts fighting again. 😁
Also the couple that was scanned in the middle of banging
Came to say the same thing!!! <3
Richard: "I didn't kill my wife!"........
Sam: 'I don't care!'
That was one of the best bits of dialogue for Tommy Lee Jones’ character, to show how he was simply doing his job. It was such a solid movie to have the two lead roles in opposition yet neither is the ‘bad guy’.
Also, he says it in such an interesting way!! As written, a more ordinary actor might have just yelled it back at Harrison Ford, but he chose this really interesting way to say it, just like you say, "I'm just doing my job, friend".
Exactly… it’s just a simple statement of fact, and coupled with the look on his face, it’s as if he is trying to explain why whether or not he killed his wife isn’t relevant and almost asking for Harrison Ford to understand his perspective. It just shows the power of a really good actor.
Mouth says he can’t care. Eyes says he can’t care
It’s a perfect little balance that Jones responds matter-of-factly to Ford’s emotional plea for understanding.
He even says it with a touch of kindness and gentleness, like he does understand, but this is what his job is. Such an interesting line reading. Really stands out, and that's something considering his whole performance in the movie is just so amazing.
I also like when he is sort of "joking" but not really with his boss "What about us? We're smart!" but he's also really sitting on his temper there.
Man, he's such a good actor! And Harrison Ford is amazing in the movie.
Someone else who is a standout in the movie is Julianne Moore, just that little scene in the hospital, I don't think she was anyone yet, but she jumps off the screen, you 100% buy her as a doctor, she brings gravitas to the scene, it totally works.
Also Joey Pants! Can never go wrong with Joey Pants.
Great movie.
Fun fact: as written, Harrison had a long monologue about how he was innocent. He chopped it down to the couplet that’s in the film.
He must have forgotten the lines
This scene was also important to show the characters arc from "just doing its job" to "maybe he's innocent after all".
Neither are the bad guy, but this part was to show character development in one of the lead actors.
And yes also a very badass oneliner 😀
I think it’s the way he said “I don’t care” but you immediately know he means “I can’t care”.
Bart.... "And I also tipped the feds off to the whereabouts of our good friend Milhouse"
Cut to culvert at top of dam. Tommy Lee Jones, gun drawn. Milhouse, hands up
"But I didn't do anything"
"I don't care"
I laughed harder than I should have for that little snippet.
The first part of that joke earlier in the episode is prob my favourite Simpsons moment. Bart telling Lisa he got Milhouse on America’s most wanted, then cut to two suits in a car with binoculars.
“There he is, on the monkey bars.”
“Try to take him alive.”
And Milhouse going “oh no, not again”. I die every time.
It’s crazy that it’s kinda a thing that really happens now but it’s swat teams.
My glasses!
And then you see him at the Diorama-rama, and his glasses are taped together.
"The guy did a Peter Pan right off of this dam, right here."
If I remember correctly, Tommy Lee Jones ad-libbed that line
I feel like Tommy Lee Jones just played himself in "The Fugitive" and "US Marshals".
I say "just," but from everything I've read, he's very much like that character in real life, including being easily irritated and quite capable of cutting you down to size with like 3 words.
My favorite was when they were filming "Batman Forever" and Jim Carrey saw Tommy Lee Jones in a restaurant and went over to greet him in his then Jim Carrey way. Tommy Lee Jones was visibly upset and told him, "I cannot reconcile your buffoonery."
I mean he couldn’t care. He was in jail he ran so he catch. Simple duty
Same universe- I watched the tape of US Marshalls way too many times. It wasn't as good as the Fugitive but hit enough of the points that I enjoyed it. Get rid of that nickle plated sissy pistol and get yourself a Glock.
That scene of swinging onto the train has got to be one of the best stunts ever performed though
The airplane crash wasn't believable but I loved to escape from the river.
Then the fight in the grain ship
"Tetralazine- for motion sickness"
"Nickel-plated sissy pistol" has stuck with me since I was a kid
It's kind of why I didn't buy RDJ as Iron Man until I finally saw it, dude was a little bitch in that movie
Sneakers
There isn’t a government on this planet that wouldn’t kill us all for that thing.
"I cannot kill my friend."
"... Kill my friend."
:P
Remind me to make you an honorary blind person.
Too many secrets
Clue
Which ending do you think is the real one?
“I’m going home to sleep with my wife.”
It was all a dream.
Salt and Pepper and Heavy D up in the limousine?
I used to read Word Up! magazine...
a bunch of real friends meet together and try to imagine their life story as a detective story of they never met. the multiple endings are the disagreement between the friends on how the story should end.
If you watch the whole movie, instead of just one random ending, it tells you that the one where Tim Curry did it is the real ending.
When I saw it at release I saw ending C, and it said it was the real one.
“Picked up the dagger, ran down the hall, and stabbed the cook!”
It is genuinely my favorite movie, ever. I still want to be Miss Scarlet when I grow up.
One plus two plus two plus one.
One plus two plus one plus one
One plus two plus one plus one?
One plus two plus one plus one
The Usual Suspects.
The Big Easy - Dennis Quaid ; Ellen Barkin ; John Goodman
L.A. Confidential
Sea of Love - Al Pacino ; Ellen Barkin ; John Goodman
Another vote on L.A. Confidential, I re-watch it every year and it's still utterly engaging.
As 3rd generation L.A. native - for me there is a kind of genius in blending real L.A. history with fictional characters.
Things that were TRUE...
LAPD Interrogation techniques.
Beating up gangsters after taking them outside the city limits.
Flor Di Li
Lana Turner dating Mickey Cohen enforcer Johnny Stompinatto - whom her daughter stabbed to death.
The Bloody Christmas LAPD scandal.
LAPD cops consulting on Dragnet tv show
Disciplining cops who were about to retire anyway.
Ignoring most crime in East L.A. that was basically brown on brown.
The NIght Owl restaurant murders based on a real robbery mass murder.
I really recommend the whole LA Quartet by James Elroy. He's the master of making fictional stories based around real history.
American Tabloid is his take on the JFK assassination and is also and incredible re-telling of history.