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Take that, [[Thunder Spirit]]!
RL collectors in shambles
I'm convinced that power creep is just a conspiracy to deal with the fact that they couldn't reprint Thunder Spirit by simply raising the power level of the game to the point that they wouldn't want to reprint it anyway.
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Fucker got EVISCERATED lmao. Is this the first truly strictly better card? Would assume so considering all the hullaballo about the reserved list and functional reprints
presumably you mean "strictly better than RL card"?
This isn't the first time WoTC printed a card that's strictly better than an RL card. The first time was [[Eladamri's Call]], way back in Planechase in 2001. Strictly better than [[Altar of Bone]]. And then there was [[Rune-Scarred Demon]], which is strictly better than [[Mold Demon]]. Then, [[Moonveil Regent]], which is strictly better than [[Roc of Kher Ridges]].
[[war horn]] vs [[mightstone]] is another example. I think a lot of players assume that RL = the most powerful cards only, and that's just not the case, but the most sought after, and thus expensive, RL cards are the most powerful cards and that creates a conundrum. Wizards could in theory create more powerful cards that wouldn't break the RL, but it would be terrible gameplay. A Tabernacle that wasn't legendary and/or produced mana wouldn't break the RL, but would be an even bigger design mistake than the original.
Also, [[Doom Whisperer]] is yet another strictly better Mold Demon.
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Yeah but its not strictly better. The typing needs to he the same. If you have coat of arms with a field of elementals then the new cards sucks compared to it. I know semantics but strictly better is all about semantics.
That's definitely not what strictly better means in a practical sense because every single card could be better than another one if the situation arises, the term would be meaningless
Shock is better than lightning bolt if your opponent has a redirect spell and you are at 3 life, that doesn't means that lightning bolt is not strictly better than shock
Yes it's the first card to be strictly better than Thunder Spirit. Not the first card to be strictly better than a RL card on multiple axes ([[Doom Whisperer]] > [[Aku Djinn]] for one).
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Not in my [[Volrath, the Shapestealer]] deck it isn't!
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How is Djinn better than Whisperer im the volrath deck?
Gets countered by [[Spell Snare]], so clearly not strictly better /s
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*Pushes up glasses"
Well actually...
[[Jackal Pup]] [[Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer]]
Jackal Pup isn't RL though
You can argue that Ragavan is a legendary and therefore worse in multiples or some shit.
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Ragavan is legendary, which is a drawback, and dealing damage to yourself 100% has uses for things like [[Darian, King of Kjeldor]].
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It's a Knight rather than an Elemental, so it's not technically a better reprint of an RL card.
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Nobody is going around saying [[lightning strike]] is strictly better than [[lightning bolt]]
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Of course not.
But also nobody is going around saying that Lightning Bolt is strictly better than Lightning Strike without someone going "well, achktually".
Wtf, why is that card so expensive?
Because of the reserved list. It's only been printed in Legends and Wizards has basically guaranteed that they'll never print it again.
Yes, but there are RL cards not that expensive and are actually good cards. I have a copy of [[Deranged Hermit]] which is not that high!
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For the handful of people that play Old School formats, where you're only allowed cards print before 1995 typically, it does see some play.
Also [[Longbow Archer]] in a way
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Lmao this was my first thought too
Targeting your own [Flagstones of Trokair] sounds fun in mono-white. Then flicker him later.
That was a thing in legacy DnT, but it also gave up the Cataclysm's in the sideboard information.
[[Flagstones of Trokair]]
You need double brackets
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Or [[Razortide Bridge]] in multicolored
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There is a red white modern deck that does a similar thing with [cleansing wildfire] and a indestructible land
There was an explorer build for a little while too, and I think something in pioneer. They weren't necessarily great but some decks ran 0-1 basics and it was a meta call to prey on them.
Someone's gotta be the fun police.
Some decks? Most decks, Pioneer/Explorer manabases are extremely greedy becasue there's nothing to punish it
Or a darksteel Citadel so you just get the land without losing one.
This thing looks cracked.
{W}{W} for a Flying First Strike 2/2 is already good.
But having that additional Field of Ruin-esk effect seems bonkers. Flickering it seems good. Makes me wonder if it will be enough to push a D&T style deck up the ranks for modern/legacy.
I'm looking at a D&T in Timeless/Historic. I been wanting to get a legit deck and I'm hoping cards like this might make something happen.
Need Leonin arbiter printed on Arena
This and new ajani, along with Thalia, spellbinder, esper sentinel, Thalia again, and the humans package, splashing red for monkey, Inti, and bolt is probably a pretty reasonable deck, honestly
Alternatively, splashing black for bowmasters and hand attack
Black also gives you the human legendary that gives indestructible and hexproof
For historic, [[juggernaut peddler]] is insanely good. Like a better [[tidehollow sculler]]
not to be that guy (I'm sorry), but
"-esk"> "-esque." All the best 😃Sorry, as my name implies I am a bad speller.
no way I didn't even notice 😭 that's so funny I love that
No doubt mh3 will have a Major impact on the meta but this looks like an amazing card in legacy atm. Many of the decks on top of the meta arent running that many basics. Combine this card with samwise + wasteland loop and the greedy decks are in trouble.
You are right, legacy land bases are pushed to be greedy right now. They are built to 'manage' around being waste landed. But if a D&T style deck is running twice the number of that effect that will punish that greed pretty hard.
Another thing that immediately came to mind how this thing has two relevant creature types. My first (legacy) thought that this is a high quality knight and might pair well with [[Exsanguinator Cavalry]] in some kind of Orzhov shell.
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Might push Stoneforge Sewer a bit. A way to twist your ephemerates into Field/Stone Rains (late game) was kind of one of the areas that deck struggled.
New legendary puppy also could hard lock an opponent out of the game with this as early as T3 if they have no basics.
Please God, I want to play the corgi in competitive.
Please God, I want to play teg corgi in competitive.
Modern DnT was a decent tier 2 deck for a while, though bowmasters didn't do it any favors. More ld to pair with Arbiter, on a body, that doesn't die to Wrenn or bow boy...
Maybe Death and Taxes is back on the menu.
Field of ruin stapled onto a 2/2 flying first striker? Sign me up!
Technically it's a Ghost Quarter, not a Field of Ruin.
But holy crap, stapling that effect onto a body that can be Vial'd in and Ephemerated and doesn't immediately die to fucking Bowmasters is exactly what D&T in Modern could use.
It's way closer to a field of ruin than ghost quarter as it only hits non-basic lands
Also this isn't card disadvantage, whereas ghost quarter is (assuming they have basics to get)
It is a may ability and not forced, making it closer to ghost quarter in that respect.
Ghost quarter hits basics, this doesn’t. It’s closer to field of ruin.
It's actually not technically either since ghost quarter hits basics and field of ruin forces the search. Both points are relevant
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RIP [[Knight of the White Orchid]]
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I thought there weren't any spirits native to Bant/Alara. The only undead we have seen on that plane were zombies (and maybe some Esper constructs would be undead).
[[Sovereigns of Lost Alara]]
Anyway, Modern Horizons have always occupied a nebulous canon space.
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[[Wall of Reverence]]
[[Sovereigns of Lost Alara]]
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