Zero

When he says "I'm you lover, I'm your Zero," I think Zero means fool. You know, like "I'm a fool for you", that kind of thing. The reason I say that is because I know Corgan is into that hocus pocus tarot card bullshit and the fool (a tarot card in the major arcana), is often numbered "zero". I don't know if anybody's said that before, but yeah. Besides that, I really have nothing new to add to what others have already said

Good points, only you may consider a more specific argument, that being the nature of the self destructive behaviour. I would suggest the particular behaviour is bulimia. This is strongly suggested by "charcoal" or blackened teeth. Fahion victims follows logically as the victims of bulimia. The bullshit fakers and enchanted kingdoms are the respectively the modelling industry and department stores. Models usually have naturally high metabolisms, which they don't tell overweight women, and thus they are bullshit fakers. Department stores can almost take people off into a fantasy land of sorts, and that suggests the metaphor I put forth.

In the beginning of the song, we see the lines "My reflection: dirty mirror/ There's no connection to myself" The meter is trochaic octameter suggesting a religious element, as though the narrator worships the mirror, but it does not connect to the thin figure being reflected.

In the bridge, the narrator rants, "emptiness is loneliness," so he needs food to fill that void. "Loneliness is cleanliness" suggests that when he eats, he feels dirty. Then he says that "cleanliness is godliness", implying that once he is empty again, by purging, he will feel powerful.

I think 'She' is a metaphor for cocaine, The whole song refers to drug related situations. For example:

"My reflection, Dirty mirror"

Chalkheads use mirrors to snort coke off of.

"Intoxicated with the madness, I'm in love with my sadness"

He enjoys being sad because it's an excuse to 'Intoxicate' himself with 'Madness'

"Fashion victims chew their charcoal teeth"

People who fake coke addiction to look cool have to reap the negative side-effects too (One of which being tooth decay)

You could name any line in this song, and it fits perfectly with my explanation

Two words: Courtney Love

it sounds like he's talking to a christian to me. allow me to explain! "save your prayers for where you're really gunna need 'em" and "you blame yourself for what you can't ignore, you blame yourself for wanting more". the 2nd quote could well be about the christian wanting sex and a relationship and the christian thinks it's wrong to think this so he blames himself!

there's obviously something more to this song too...

This song DEFINES every point of my highschool grievances!! It's amazing how one song could do it all! I have been struggling for 2.5 years with on-&-off depression--you know, normal teenage depression. It became increasingly worse when my best friend was diagnosed with the REAL bad depression. She pulled out of school almost one year ago.

"My reflection, dirty...to myself"-->My identity crises in Soph. year "Im your...dreams of glass"-->Me wishing that I could express myself better (I worked on that! It's all gooooood!) "So save...need 'em"--> Me losing my faith in God "Throw all your...for a ride?"-->I was a top grade student. I wished I could let myself go for a ride many times. "She's the one for me..."--> my great dependecy on my best friends and my love for them, esp my bff that got sick. "Emptiness..just like me"-->As things never seemed to get better with my bff, things got worse for me. I gave up God completely and have never since felt connection to God. "Intoxicated...my sadness"-->I withdrew into myself. I became very depressed. I couldnt focus in school. I couldnt associate with anyone. I was cutting myself and tearing at my skin to numb anxiety. I continuously imagined dying. I knew I was killing myself, but it was the only thing I could feel. "bullshit fakers...teeth"-->Me rejecting the society around me and all the people in it. "I never let on...that I was down"-->I didnt share my feelings and thoughts with anyone--not even the my best friends that I would've died for. And I know that I never will tell my bffs. "You blame...ignore"-->Me blaming myself for not loving my sick bff more. I blamed myself for her suicide attempts. I blamed myself for the fact that she is still not in school. I blamed myself for being anrgy with her that she would hurt me so much. "You blame...wanting more"-->Recently, I stopped blaming myself for these things. But I began to blame myself for wanting different friends that would hurt me and suffocate me so much. I blamed myself for beginning the break of a friendship circle. "She's the one...and only"--> How I bitterly think of all the ways my depression has really been caused by my bffs depression. We have been so close and so bonded, that I actually take on her sickness. It makes me think of how I must live for myself.

And, just so yall no! I dont cut myself anymore and I am living very happily. Tho I spend a lot less time with my circle of friends, I am much happier and looking forward to graduation and art school! Love to all of you... SMASHING PUMPKINS FOREVER!!!!

the line: "intoxicated with the madness, Im in love with my sadness" i think says that he is afraid of a change because he feels that since being alone (the madness) is now part of his personality (intoxicated), any change would turn him into something he isnt... i can SO relate to this line

i love this song............for some reason when i hear it i feel so incredible i don't even know how to describe it

Thanks to my twisted little head, this song's always reminded me of an eating disorder. sigh

Spoonman you clever thing.

Dirty mirror- from coke Blow helps you to 'detatch' Throw out your cares and fly..wanna go for a ride - speaks for itself God is emtpy just like me - delusions of grandeur from the coke. On and on it goes...

But at the same time, view it as you want to...this is what it means to me, and thats the beauty of the pumpkins songs...They had released cds etc without lyrics for the reason that you should hear what you wanna hear, and take it for what you want.

Its not rocket surgery.