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« Reply #330 on: May 07, 2024, 03:58:15 PM »

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The Belgian Crown Princess will study at Harvard University in Boston from this Summer. She recently passed the entrance tests for the Master in Public Policy. This two-year master's degree will complete her university education.
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Impressive! That should be an interesting and fun program for her.
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« Reply #331 on: May 07, 2024, 06:54:20 PM »

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The Belgian Crown Princess will study at Harvard University in Boston from this Summer. She recently passed the entrance tests for the Master in Public Policy. This two-year master's degree will complete her university education.
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Impressive! That should be an interesting and fun program for her.


That is very cool!  I hope she enjoys herself.
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« Reply #332 on: May 07, 2024, 09:34:28 PM »

A smart girl, Im a bit supprised she is taking the whole education abroad. I wonder if it is thought she will be a full time royal after her studies or if she will do some kind of internship or workexperience.
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« Reply #333 on: May 08, 2024, 07:56:55 AM »

A smart girl, Im a bit supprised she is taking the whole education abroad. I wonder if it is thought she will be a full time royal after her studies or if she will do some kind of internship or work experience.

She will have attended the two best schools in the world for her line of work (a future monarch). Harvard's Public Policy program is well-known. I suppose she studied something with an international or public focus at Oxford. While both schools are "abroad" relative to Belgium, these are not insular schools. They both boast a prestigious and international faculty who present world views. The other advantage of attending these schools is many of her classmates will be movers and shakers in business and politics. She will likely be interacting with them professionally in the future.

Enrolling in degree programs and graduating from them reflects seriousness and commitment - and intelligence. I really respect that she isn't just coasting through life.
Meanwhile Fred spent a year at Harvard while not enrolled in a degree program. Victoria spent a year at Yale also not enrolled in a degree program. She was mostly trying to avoid the paparazzi at home while she recovered from anorexia.
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« Reply #334 on: May 08, 2024, 12:57:10 PM »

I don't understand the Belgian approach, their future queen will study the most important 7 or 8 years of her education abroad.

She will learn a lot about international affairs at elite universities, but international relations is only a small part of her future role. Her main role will be to be queen of the Belgians and develop activities in her country, for which she must know its history, its laws, its institutions and its citizens. Since Belgium is also a complex country, that seems even more important.

Perhaps she knows people at her university who in the future will hold positions in international institutions or companies, but she is not creating a network of friends in her country, of people of her generation who in the future will be the ones who will work directly with her. She, too, is not getting to know first-hand young people who represent the concerns of her country and who can bring her closer to its reality and not just to the vision of the elite that surrounds her.

I believe that the plan of other royal houses where national and international education is combined is more in line with the future role of these young heirs. Elite universities cannot replace in-depth knowledge of your country and the need to create circles of friendships and acquaintances within it.
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« Reply #335 on: May 09, 2024, 02:08:54 AM »

I don't understand the Belgian approach, their future queen will study the most important 7 or 8 years of her education abroad.

She will learn a lot about international affairs at elite universities, but international relations is only a small part of her future role. Her main role will be to be queen of the Belgians and develop activities in her country, for which she must know its history, its laws, its institutions and its citizens. Since Belgium is also a complex country, that seems even more important.

Perhaps she knows people at her university who in the future will hold positions in international institutions or companies, but she is not creating a network of friends in her country, of people of her generation who in the future will be the ones who will work directly with her. She, too, is not getting to know first-hand young people who represent the concerns of her country and who can bring her closer to its reality and not just to the vision of the elite that surrounds her.

I believe that the plan of other royal houses where national and international education is combined is more in line with the future role of these young heirs. Elite universities cannot replace in-depth knowledge of your country and the need to create circles of friendships and acquaintances within it.

Elisabeth had a national education up to college. She presumably attended elite schools where she got plenty of national history, politics, and culture and mixed with other students who will likely become movers and shakers in Belgium. In this regard, her Belgian identity is well-established. This period of her life is the time to explore for people who have the means. After her studies, she will return to Belgium and be fully immersed in royal life and Belgian society. I don't think she will have missed out on anything regarding Belgium. And it doesn't mean she won't continue to study either informally or family when she returns.

Her father graduated from Stanford.
Haakon graduated from University of California, Berkeley. After he married, he and MM moved to London for a couple of years where I believe he attended the London School of Economics.
One of the Dutch princes attended Berkeley also. He was an engineering student and Berkeley has one of the top engineering schools in the world. If you have the means, why wouldn't pursue the best education you can get?
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« Reply #336 on: May 09, 2024, 08:33:56 AM »

The Dutch prince was Friso, the late 2nd son of Beatrix and Claus.

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« Reply #337 on: May 09, 2024, 12:34:18 PM »

I don't understand the Belgian approach, their future queen will study the most important 7 or 8 years of her education abroad.

She will learn a lot about international affairs at elite universities, but international relations is only a small part of her future role. Her main role will be to be queen of the Belgians and develop activities in her country, for which she must know its history, its laws, its institutions and its citizens. Since Belgium is also a complex country, that seems even more important.

Perhaps she knows people at her university who in the future will hold positions in international institutions or companies, but she is not creating a network of friends in her country, of people of her generation who in the future will be the ones who will work directly with her. She, too, is not getting to know first-hand young people who represent the concerns of her country and who can bring her closer to its reality and not just to the vision of the elite that surrounds her.

I believe that the plan of other royal houses where national and international education is combined is more in line with the future role of these young heirs. Elite universities cannot replace in-depth knowledge of your country and the need to create circles of friendships and acquaintances within it.

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« Reply #338 on: May 09, 2024, 01:08:21 PM »

I don't understand the Belgian approach, their future queen will study the most important 7 or 8 years of her education abroad.

She will learn a lot about international affairs at elite universities, but international relations is only a small part of her future role. Her main role will be to be queen of the Belgians and develop activities in her country, for which she must know its history, its laws, its institutions and its citizens. Since Belgium is also a complex country, that seems even more important.

Perhaps she knows people at her university who in the future will hold positions in international institutions or companies, but she is not creating a network of friends in her country, of people of her generation who in the future will be the ones who will work directly with her. She, too, is not getting to know first-hand young people who represent the concerns of her country and who can bring her closer to its reality and not just to the vision of the elite that surrounds her.

I believe that the plan of other royal houses where national and international education is combined is more in line with the future role of these young heirs. Elite universities cannot replace in-depth knowledge of your country and the need to create circles of friendships and acquaintances within it.

Haakon graduated from University of California, Berkeley. After he married, he and MM moved to London for a couple of years where I believe he attended the London School of Economics.

Haakon spent his whole primary education from 7-19 in Norway, after that he did 4 year education in the navy in Norway. After BA education at Berkley he spent a year at the university of Oslo and one year at the forreign ministrys aspirant course in Oslo until his wedding in 2001. Then he was in London for his masters.
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« Reply #339 on: May 09, 2024, 02:00:35 PM »

I think she deserves some years in anonymity before she goes back. It would have been cleverer IMO to do a part of the education in Belgium, but she is doing a great job and she is a very promising crown princess.
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« Reply #340 on: May 09, 2024, 02:02:29 PM »

I don't understand the Belgian approach, their future queen will study the most important 7 or 8 years of her education abroad.

She will learn a lot about international affairs at elite universities, but international relations is only a small part of her future role. Her main role will be to be queen of the Belgians and develop activities in her country, for which she must know its history, its laws, its institutions and its citizens. Since Belgium is also a complex country, that seems even more important.

Perhaps she knows people at her university who in the future will hold positions in international institutions or companies, but she is not creating a network of friends in her country, of people of her generation who in the future will be the ones who will work directly with her. She, too, is not getting to know first-hand young people who represent the concerns of her country and who can bring her closer to its reality and not just to the vision of the elite that surrounds her.

I believe that the plan of other royal houses where national and international education is combined is more in line with the future role of these young heirs. Elite universities cannot replace in-depth knowledge of your country and the need to create circles of friendships and acquaintances within it.

Haakon graduated from University of California, Berkeley. After he married, he and MM moved to London for a couple of years where I believe he attended the London School of Economics.

Haakon spent his whole primary education from 7-19 in Norway, after that he did 4 year education in the navy in Norway. After BA education at Berkley he spent a year at the university of Oslo and one year at the forreign ministrys aspirant course in Oslo until his wedding in 2001. Then he was in London for his masters.

Fred got his degree in Denmark - the first Danish regent to get an university degree IIRC.
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« Reply #341 on: May 09, 2024, 02:48:45 PM »

A smart girl, Im a bit supprised she is taking the whole education abroad. I wonder if it is thought she will be a full time royal after her studies or if she will do some kind of internship or work experience.

She will have attended the two best schools in the world for her line of work (a future monarch). Harvard's Public Policy program is well-known. I suppose she studied something with an international or public focus at Oxford. While both schools are "abroad" relative to Belgium, these are not insular schools. They both boast a prestigious and international faculty who present world views. The other advantage of attending these schools is many of her classmates will be movers and shakers in business and politics. She will likely be interacting with them professionally in the future.

Enrolling in degree programs and graduating from them reflects seriousness and commitment - and intelligence. I really respect that she isn't just coasting through life.
Meanwhile Fred spent a year at Harvard while not enrolled in a degree program. Victoria spent a year at Yale also not enrolled in a degree program. She was mostly trying to avoid the paparazzi at home while she recovered from anorexia.
I agree with you! She comes across as very intelligent and eager to study. I understand that both universities are not easy ones for students in general, you sure must be ambitious.
She is still very young when she returns from Harvard and has plenty of time for engaging herself in Belgium.
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« Reply #342 on: May 09, 2024, 04:31:28 PM »

Two years at the top American university in a big city with new friends will teach her more than the subject matter. You are only young once. She is learning about herself and her resourcefulness and self reliance that she can navigate strange waters and come out ahead. She is getting stronger with every new experience. This is about soft skills. She is an impressive young lady.
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« Reply #343 on: May 11, 2024, 03:00:41 AM »

I don't understand the Belgian approach, their future queen will study the most important 7 or 8 years of her education abroad.

She will learn a lot about international affairs at elite universities, but international relations is only a small part of her future role. Her main role will be to be queen of the Belgians and develop activities in her country, for which she must know its history, its laws, its institutions and its citizens. Since Belgium is also a complex country, that seems even more important.

Perhaps she knows people at her university who in the future will hold positions in international institutions or companies, but she is not creating a network of friends in her country, of people of her generation who in the future will be the ones who will work directly with her. She, too, is not getting to know first-hand young people who represent the concerns of her country and who can bring her closer to its reality and not just to the vision of the elite that surrounds her.

I believe that the plan of other royal houses where national and international education is combined is more in line with the future role of these young heirs. Elite universities cannot replace in-depth knowledge of your country and the need to create circles of friendships and acquaintances within it.

Haakon graduated from University of California, Berkeley. After he married, he and MM moved to London for a couple of years where I believe he attended the London School of Economics.

Haakon spent his whole primary education from 7-19 in Norway, after that he did 4 year education in the navy in Norway. After BA education at Berkley he spent a year at the university of Oslo and one year at the forreign ministrys aspirant course in Oslo until his wedding in 2001. Then he was in London for his masters.

Fred got his degree in Denmark - the first Danish regent to get an university degree IIRC.

what was his degree in?

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« Reply #344 on: May 11, 2024, 09:30:48 AM »

I don't understand the Belgian approach, their future queen will study the most important 7 or 8 years of her education abroad.

She will learn a lot about international affairs at elite universities, but international relations is only a small part of her future role. Her main role will be to be queen of the Belgians and develop activities in her country, for which she must know its history, its laws, its institutions and its citizens. Since Belgium is also a complex country, that seems even more important.

Perhaps she knows people at her university who in the future will hold positions in international institutions or companies, but she is not creating a network of friends in her country, of people of her generation who in the future will be the ones who will work directly with her. She, too, is not getting to know first-hand young people who represent the concerns of her country and who can bring her closer to its reality and not just to the vision of the elite that surrounds her.

I believe that the plan of other royal houses where national and international education is combined is more in line with the future role of these young heirs. Elite universities cannot replace in-depth knowledge of your country and the need to create circles of friendships and acquaintances within it.

Haakon graduated from University of California, Berkeley. After he married, he and MM moved to London for a couple of years where I believe he attended the London School of Economics.

Haakon spent his whole primary education from 7-19 in Norway, after that he did 4 year education in the navy in Norway. After BA education at Berkley he spent a year at the university of Oslo and one year at the forreign ministrys aspirant course in Oslo until his wedding in 2001. Then he was in London for his masters.

Fred got his degree in Denmark - the first Danish regent to get an university degree IIRC.

what was his degree in?

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