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Anti-Zionism Is The Same As Anti-Semitism

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, May 5, 2024 at 2:01 PM.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    We have regularly seen members of ET promote "Kill the Jews", "From the River to the Sea", and other genocidal crap urging the mass murder of Jews.

    They try to claim that they are merely anti-zionist and not anti-semetic. At the same time they promote endless anti-semetic trope that Jews are a cabal taking over the world. Classic examples of this are continual posts by @themickey who regularly pushes nonsense from some of the most hateful anti-semetic blogs on the face of the earth.

    Let's take a look at a typical example of @themickey being called out for the nonsense by multiple people. This particular time @themickey posted content about "Who Controls America" from the well known "thezog.wordpress.com" hate site. For those missing the context of ZOG, it means "Zionist Occupied Government".

    At some point this type of hateful propaganda urging the mass murder of Jews and the taking of their property should be considered unacceptable; yet sadly on ET it continues day after day.

    Anti-Zionism is the same as Anti-Semitism. There is no difference and it is time to stop pretending there is.

    No longer an academic debate: Anti-Zionism is antisemitism
    Those who advocate for the destruction of Jews anywhere, rejoice at the harm done to Jews everywhere.

    https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-799657
     
    Last edited: May 5, 2024 at 2:09 PM
  2. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism are not the same. I learned that from two roommates in college...one from Israel and the other from Palestine.

    A specific explanation from today's media search:
    • Anti-Semitism is "hostility and prejudice directed against Jewish people" (OED).
    • Zionism refers to the movement to create a Jewish state in the Middle East, roughly corresponding to the historical land of Israel, and thus support for the modern state of Israel. Anti-Zionism opposes that.
    • But some say "Zionist" can be used as a coded attack on Jews, while others say the Israeli government and its supporters are deliberately confusing anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism to avoid criticism.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36160928

    Regardless, Israel and Palestine have been killing each other to wipe the other off the face of the planet for many decades and will continue to do so for decades to come regardless if a Democrat or Republican sits in the American Oval Office.

    People that ignore the bullshit propaganda by these two countries...they live peacefully together. :cool:

    wrbtrader
     
    Last edited: May 5, 2024 at 7:48 PM
  3. Anti-zionism is not anti-semitism. Most of the anti-zionism you see on college campuses comes from an anti-colonialism viewpoint. Saying "kill the Jews" is obviously anti-semitic. I would not say "from the river to the seat" necessarily is, but I would bet most people shouting it have no clue what it means and are simply participating in group-think. I think the protestors lack humility and self-awareness. It's hard to argue with people who think they have what's moral all figured out. I can't morally argue for any country's existence so I just accept what's there and try to work from there.
     
  4. I'm personally more on Israel's side, because the Palestinians should be rising up against Hamas. It should be the Palestinians saying Hamas is a terrorist organization and we do not agree with their intentional targeting of civilians. It should be the Palestinians saying that they aren't going to let Hamas use them as human shields. However, the truth is their response towards Hamas is apathy at best. So Israel has a choice, let Hamas keep killing Israelis or accept the collateral damage of Palestinian civilians in ending the existence of Hamas.
     
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  5. mervyn

    mervyn

    original semitic people also include the palestinians. somehow because of the concentration camps experience, antisemitism became a word for anti-jewishness. zionism is an expansionism with military means, like the germany, japanese, us reconstruction period, colonialism from the old europe to the new world.

    the problem related to the jew is that they already won a sizable land in a heavily populated area. but they are constantly wanting more via new settlements. without the full support of the us, they will be back to exile again, like the last 2000 years. btw, american jews, russian jews, etc, are not sharing the same rigidness for existence because they have new identities superseded by the old identities.