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As a beginner, where is the Hype from Hoederer and Virtuosa comming from?

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I dont want full details with spoilers.

But like... everyone is hyped for Virtuosa and i would like to atleast get to know why.

Anyways, I just finished world 5 and now im wondering, when will she be introduced, or if its one of the side storys, Intermzo or Archives, which is it, so i can unlock that one. I wont reach 13 for Hoederer Event stuff anyways, so why not spent a day or two to get ready for the next one. Or is it her Introduction here, but everyone knows whats going to happen from CN?

Hopefully its not "just" because shes limited and kinda strong in CN. I mean i already heard shes apperently evil or atleast dangerous (granted who isnt in Arknights xD) so im expecting atleast a bit of lore.

For Hoederer i found out hes part of the first intermezo (Dark night memoire or something) which i once started whe i was still massivly under leveled (i should be continue that now, i hope), but is there more to it, or is it all in there?

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There's many reasons to be excited about Virtuosa :

  • Main villain in like 2 previous events

  • Evil Goth mommy

  • Very strong (slow, non reduceable damage, big AOE)

  • Evil Goth mommy

  • Limited unit

  • Also, Evil Goth mommy helps

when will she be introduced, or if its one of the side storys

Yup, Lingering Echoes and also present in Executor Alter's event (rerun will be available in a couple months I think)

is there more to it

Hilariously enough, Hoederer was thought to be dead for several years... Only to reappear in a fucking April's fool event because he was simping for U official. This is real.

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I think you missed another point and it's Evil Goth mommy đź‘Ť

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true, my bad

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Hortus won't rerun until like, December lmao, since that's 1yr after its release. Even CN hasn't had its rerun yet. Won't have to face the bone-headed civvies for a while yet.

I’m kinda new to arknights but I’m interested on the executor chapter is there like any units I should be leveling up by the time the re run comes around?

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I don't think it's a good idea to level units just for one event.

Saying that, I'd recommend having at least one of those defenders that can heal itself or allies. Fast redeploy units like Texas alter also helps a ton, but you'll probably have to borrow her. 

Just a heads up. Executor's event is one of the most annoying chapter for a lot of people. Don't expect a smooth ride. 

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* nerd mode on

She's not evil. She's not a goth, either. And she has to be younger than Federico, who's barely 25.

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Iirc Arturia is his older Cousin, but still probably not over 30

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I thought Federico was the older cousin, but yeah, there's hardly much of an age difference.

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Why did I have to read that last part….

SOMEONE GET ME SOME BLEACH

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If I understand you correctly, then I have a couple questions...

Who else? Or just her? Would you like to atomize Hool then? Or Passenger? Or maybe Hoederer (remember who killed Scout?) Oh! And how could I forget about Platinum and W, they can be atomized too....

And maybe Amiya could be atomized too, because she can do the same thing as Arturia.

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Not quite the point but Amiya actually has the power to do much worse things than Arturia. Arturia sort of destroys people's inhibitions, but she has no control over what really happens after that, while Amiya is able to show people visions and interact with their emotional state in order to alter it.

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Who else

Every sexy woman in this game really

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I thought she's an Evil Goth Oneesan type.

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I honestly just don't see how she's mommy at all. She has no mommy energy imo. Hell I'd say vivi fits that more.

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Just to be sure, by "main villain in 2 previous events", is that including the upcoming ZwillingstĂĽrme, or her first introduction in Lingering Echoes instead?

Seeing as they are both 'previous events' for CN, it's not that clear.

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i love darknights how are all three of them as funny as they are

Was she a villain tho? The Seaborn guy and the Racist Fire Emblem looking dude were more scummy than Arturia in Hortus what was the other event she was the "main" villain?

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I would hardly call her a villain. I'm not sure she even makes the cut for top three reasons why everything went wrong in Hortus de Escapismo, so she at the very least wasn't the main one. I would argue that she was responsible at most for two deaths, even then indirectly, even then with other contributing factors. I'm really not sure why some people see her as this great evil mastermind who laughs at all the suffering she causes.

The only other event I remember her appearing in was in Lingering Echoes, she briefly showed up at the very end for the last performance at the theatre if I remember right but she only listened and did nothing else.

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Arturia's investment in the events of Lingering Echoes probably extended up to her interest in hearing Kreide (who she personally taught) play, mild interest in a Witch King-adjacent project, and not much else. There's no indication that she used any of her own Arts to influence the events of Vyseheim at all.

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There have been a few good answers now, but I think yours summarizes everything perfectly.

Thank you very much^^

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Main villain? When and where?

Lol how did they know it was Hoederer from the April fools?

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It's not confirmed, but there were a bunch of names strongly hinting towards other operators, and "one-eyed merc / one-eyed spy" is a hint that would only apply to Hoederer. It's not to be taken seriously. It's just funny.

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Hoederer was never thought to be dead though? He literally shows up in chapters 10,11, and 12 and Ines’ voice lines mentioned him being alive and around

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I mean, yeah, but prior to chapter 10 both him and Ines were presumably dead

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no only ines was presumed dead, in DM-8 at the end of darknights it shows Hoederer alive and with the kazdel military comission in victoria.

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Evil goth mommy is all I need.

She isn't a limited unit

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I wish you were right, but you're not.

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my apologies, confused her name with viviana

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vuviana uwu

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People love Darknights trio in case of Hoederer. And in case of Virtuosa because she is definition of "If evil why hot ?"

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Hoederer it's mainly from that event and his appearances in the current main story arc (which starts chapter 9). People like the darknights trio a lot.

For Virtuosa she's appeared in several Laterano themed events thus far. I believe the one we start learning more about her is Hortus de Escapismo? And this prologue comic: https://arknights.global/comic_section?comicId=5

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All appearances from the wiki: "Virtuosa, then known as Arturia, is mentioned in Executor's dialogues and Guide Ahead before appearing as a supporting character in Lingering Echoes and the main antagonist of Hortus de Escapismo, long before her introduction as an Operator in ZwillingstĂĽrme im Herbst where she also acts as one of the main characters."

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Thank you, for the link. Will look into it later ^^

Now that you mentioned Chapter 9 though, something i always wondered... Why can we skip to Chapter 9?
I mean, again i dont want a complet lore recap, but like its somewhat weird that a game praised for its story offers to skip story.

probably because upgrade materials. there's stuff that you can only get in chapter 9 and beyond. (discounting events, of course)

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That actually does make sense.

Now I am wondering though, if they once raised a level cap, or if upgrading just got more expensive.

They have never raised the level cap and upgrading has not gotten more expensive. The person was referring to newer characters requiring newer upgrade materials that can't be acquired from earlier stages. New players would've been unable to build most of the newer characters unless they had access to later stages.

Chapter 9 is the start of a new story arc, is when new resources get introduced, does not require the previous 8 chapters to understand what's happening, and has a mode that newer accounts can playthrough to get access to the newer resources.

In so many words, it was very wise of them to allow players to skip to chapter 9 both from a business and player enjoyment perspective.

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I... don't think its that expensive? however, its probably because I seldomly upgrade my operators' mastery and I always have excess materials.

upgrading to E2 need 180k LMD, some tier 4-5 materials, and class dualchips.

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Chapter 9 is the start of a new story arc that takes place several years after the last arc ends, in a different part of Terra. You don't necessarily have to finish the previous arc to follow what's happening. So it's a logical place to allow players to jump in in addition to the new materials.

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99% of the reason behind their hype is Virtuosa is fucking hot as fuck. Simple as that. And viviana is hot af too despite her gameplay being butchered. Also every limited has insane hype so its not really something unique.

1% of the reason is virtuosa being pretty stronf

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That one CN web-event illustration of Arturia. When I first saw it - I immediately lost.

Sauce please bro ?

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I think this one

AWOOGAH!11!!1! 👀🗿

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Is she really that much hotter than some of the other Ops though? Or is it “I must have every hot girl available?” I mean I try and pull every Operator so I get not wanting to miss out but I just… don’t get it with her. Or a couple of the other female antagonists honestly.

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We have plenty of hot ops yes, but evil goth woman hot is different

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I dunno about goth my guy, evil sure, goth has some style conventions she’s not really hitting.

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Hmm speaking for myself, I really do think she has a different "vibe" from others operators.

Strictly speaking, 90% of operators, both males and females, are an 8/10 at the very worst anyway, but there's none that quite strike the cord like she does.

If it was only for her slender figure and outfit, she would be quickly forgotten. But I think it's really from how she carry herself in the arts, always with an impish smile plastered on her face. Her general attitude, or how she look at characters (or directly at the camera), that seems to imply that she got deeper knowledge and understanding of things you can't imagine than you do.

... That's an old reference, but now that I think about it, she kinda remind me of a younger Yuko from xxxHolic.

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Oh my God she really does remind me of Yuko in demeanor.

Now if only virtuosa changes her outfit everytime we see her. 

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That would be really cool, but I can already hear the artist begging for mercy lol

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Her design is so plainly beautiful compared to every other character, thats why she is so loved. Also she has been hyped up in multiple stories already.

And at the end of the day, she bring a new gameplay style to the game and also has a strong meta value

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Yeah meta, whatever, fine but insubstantial to my question. “Plainly beautiful” as in self-evidently, or in the sense her design’s uncomplicated (black and white, few purely decorative elements)? I definitely can see the latter, she’s conventionally attractive and isn’t hiding that, but I dunno.

I mean beauty is subjective. Its not like im gonna give you proof or something. People love her and thats all. There isnt any deep meaning to this.

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Mechanically, virtuosa is the first 6* to deal elemental damage. People are hyped for that.

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As some already said, Virtuosa got quite the build up for some time, story wise.

She is only mentionned toward the end of Guide Ahead, back in 2022, were her name is dropped.

Since then she made apparence for the first time in Lingering Echoes and a second one in Hortus de Escapissimo in 2023 and got some manga chapters to introduce her.

That and the fact that she is a strong operator, and a limited pull, the hype is understandable.

She's hot as hell, too.

Edit : If you want you to be ready, lore-wise, for the event, you may want to read these events in this order :

Code of Brawl -> Guide Ahead -> Lingering Echoes -> Hortus de Escapissimo (There's no rerun yet for this one, so unless you catch some recap from youtube, you're toast for a while)

And maybe Executor's profile.

Since Viviana also appears reading the Maria Nearl and especially the Near Light event beforhand might get you up to date about her, too.

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Hopefully its not "just" because shes limited and kinda strong in CN. I mean i already heard shes apperently evil or atleast dangerous (granted who isnt in Arknights xD) so im expecting atleast a bit of lore.

In terms of meta - Arturia is very strong. She can do pseudo-pure damage to enemies, slow them down, and buff allies. Simply because the type of damage she does - necrosis - they has no resistance to it yet.

Lore-wise, no, she's not evil. Dangerous yes, but not evil. She has a very specific view of people - she believes they shouldn't hold back/hide their true desires/emotions. And she is able to remove restrictions and/or increase the desires/emotions that a person already has. But she can't impose a person with something they don't have. I.e. she can a happy to make even happier, and a depressed person - bring to suicide. So she's a pretty ambiguous character...

Hoederer is a mercenary, part of a trio ( W, Ines and him ) and with his release finally all three are now playable. You can say - the whole "family" is together XD

And about the hype...in anticipation of the 5th anniversary stream, it's worth keeping the name in mind - Theresa

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She has a very specific view of people - she believes they shouldn’t hold back/hide their true desires/emotions.

Carmen-ass psycho, thank god she can’t make people distort

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Virtuosa basically is crazy but hot af type. And I'm all for in

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Virtuosa is super cute. People like cute girls.

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In general whenever an NPC that has previously shown up becomes an operator, people get a bit hyped for them.

Virtuosa in particular is also one of the few characters that was vaguely described very early on within a Executor dialogue line, so depending on how you look at it she has been in NPC jail for a bit longer than 4 years! (stretching the truth of course, her first actual appearance was about 1.5 years ago)

I'm not hyped for virtuoso, but Vivienne on the other hand...

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Honestly I'm hyped for Virtuosa for two reasons:

  1. To spite the people who spread hate against Arturia for the limited information of what she did (at that time at least, now we have more context)

  2. She's hot as fuck

Classical music gentle classy onesan in a black and white color palate who would activate my heart's truest desires and prompt me to try to get her to cuddle me? Yes please.

I want Virtuosa because of the necrosis damage. Aside from that, I find her blue and orange morality interesting alongside Executor’s interpretation of his own lack of emotions.

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For Hoederer, the hype mostly is lore related (particularly because of Darknights Memoir, the first intermezzo). Finally getting the whole W+Ines+Hoed gang is pretty hype. Some people also liked his design a lot.

For Virtuosa, it's a mix. She's the main villain in a past event (Hortus de Escapismo) and a side villain in another (Lingering Echoes). There's also a manga dedicated to her origin story. But I'm fairly certain most of the hype comes from her being hot and her kit pretty interesting. Gacha games' fanbases are pretty horny, as a general rule.

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Hoederer has 4 big reasons to hype for

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Tldr no spoilors. Big domi momies that will be meta units for the comming year in normal content and in IS

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Virtuosa has a lot going for her from design, to her story, to her role in combat. She's in a very interesting spot with being able to inflict necrosis damage to enemies in her attack range and having a buff (more HP for the person with the highest HP, more attack for the person with the highest attack, more defense for the person with the highest defense) for her third skill.

Also many people find her hot.

Hoederer is mostly design and story for him. I find him fun in battle but he's not the immediate first choice anywhere. But he's hot, has a great design, and I just like his characterization in general.

Viviana is coming up in the same banner as Virtuosa, and I'm looking forward to her. She's beautiful, I loved her characterization in Near Light, she's a more defense oriented Arts Fighter so she'll fulfill a different role from Surtr, and I think she's neat.

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TBH, I am not at the latest chapters yet...

I pretty much learned of eyepatch from pictures ppls are posting. And the U-Official memes, LOL.

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Same xD

Saw him when i tried out the Dark Nights Intermezzo when i was horribly new and underleveled. Gotta continue that one at some point ^^

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I feel like i betray myself by pulling for Arturia, because i really fucking don't like her character, but as a GAMER with weak roster i have to think about gameplay first. I know its silly, yeah.

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I’m just here to spark for Skadi Alter and Virtuosa will probably just be part of that package.

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What does Spark mean?

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Sparking is the colloquial term for using the currency you earn from pulling on this limited banner.

Each pull is 1 currency, at 300 pulls/currency you can buy one of the limited or 6* operators on the banner. I've saved to pull 300 times on the banner and buy Skadi Alter.

Of course, if she spooks me (off-banner appearance) then I save pulls for the other banners!

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I think i understand, but just to be sure i understand this correctly (im usually not a gacha player)

Limited Operators can only be obtained by the banner its in and then never again.

But sparking is basicly a mechanic to get these limited Operators anyways, given youre a whale or save for like a year (I have no idea how long it takes to save 300 pulls)

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Mostly correct.

Limited operators can only be obtained during their respective limited event banners, previous banner operators being dropped at a low chance, and of course buyable with 300 pulls.

So it takes a whole year for limiteds to return but they do come around, and you CAN get them while pulling albeit rarely.

There are I think 3 yearly Limited banners:

  1. Celebration banner (this one - Nearl alter, Texas alter, Skadi alter, Specter alter, Rosmontis and W)

  2. The summer banner (Eyja alter, Gavial alter, Ch’en alter)

  3. The Spring banner (Sui siblings)

Plus any collaboration banners that also run.

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Dude have you seen them?

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I have seen like 2 pictures for each one.

Also... frankly speaking... im in it for the lore and music.
If id be thirsting for slender girl with thigh gap, i would have started nikke xD
(Not saying its bad for a character to be hot, but i can respect arknights to push other aspects in their characters too)

yeah that's what you're into but slender girls are what creates hype for gacha games

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She's not really evil. She's just morally ambiguous.

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he is a BIG boi

thats about it

Virtuosa has very unique (and strong) mechanic, and is hot. Unique is like a multiplayer of value, that makes the game interesting over time;

Viviana is at least bit nostalgic from the past stories, (and hot xd)

their banner comes with ability to spark, choose one of the few very sought after characters if you pull 300x - long term players wet dream, and:

Hoederer ... who knows. ( sorry Hoereder enthusiasts XD )

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Virtuosa is OP and people can't live without their meta units