"I'd like to call the part of this segment therapy with Hillary, if I may," Brzezinski said. "Because she's now going to -- she needs another role, therapist."
"What do you say to people when they ask you about the former president, these trials and these delays, and the fear that they feel about the upcoming election?" Brzezinski asked.
"Mika, I'm happy to go to therapy with you anytime because clearly the pressure and the stress on our system, our country, our constitution, our future is so intense," Clinton responded. "If you've been in this world as you and I have, and you've studied it and you've watched it -- it is a very difficult time right now. You know, justice delayed is justice denied. And the people in our country, it looks as though will most likely go to vote without knowing the outcome of these other very serious trials."
BRZEZINSKI: A phenom, I am so impressed. And we're going to -- believe it or not, as we veer into politics right now, it's going to veer right back to "Suffs" because it's so related.
But I'd like to call the part of this segment therapy with Hillary, if I may. Because she's now going to -- she needs another role, therapist. I know a lot of people ask you this question.
So I -- I want to ask you for our viewers about not just abortion, which I'll get to in a moment, and women's rights, but about former president Donald Trump, who is in criminal court in New York City for this hush money thing.
Meanwhile, the documents case is delayed. Meanwhile, Georgia -- what's going on here? Everything seems to be delayed and moving down the road. And there are even those who argue that this Manhattan case is, it's not as big, it's not serious, and he might get off anyway or not. And how do people manage their -- especially people who really love this democracy, who take it seriously, who take the words that you just said on our show very seriously, that it's -- you can't just sit back and let democracy come to you, that this is every day something we all must work on together.
What do you say to people when they ask you about the former president, these trials and these delays, and the fear that they feel about the upcoming election?
CLINTON: Well, Mika, I'm happy to go to therapy with you anytime because clearly the pressure and the stress on our system, our country, our constitution, our future is so intense. For those of us who understand what's at stake, and I don't mean that in a, you know, derogatory way to others.
BRZEZINSKI: No.
CLINTON: But if you've been in this world as you and I have, and you've studied it and you've watched it -- it is a very difficult time right now. You know, justice delayed is justice denied. And the people in our country, it looks as though will most likely go to vote without knowing the outcome of these other very serious trials.
And the one that is going on now currently in New York is really about election interference. It is about trying to prevent the people of our country from having relevant information that may have influenced how they could have voted in 2016 or whether they would have voted.
I think that the defendant, the former president, knew exactly what he was doing when he went to such great lengths to try to squash, bury, kill stories, pay off people because he understood the electoral significance of them.
So I think that this is not though about the past because the other cases are about election interference. And he's practically promised us, if you listen to him at his rallies, you read his interview with "Time Magazine," that if he doesn't like the way the election turns out, he's going to do something again to try to prevent the lawful winner from taking office.
I mean, I was Secretary of State traveling around the world on behalf of our country, trying to persuade leaders to believe in democracy, to believe in the peaceful transfer of power, to accept election results after appropriate challenges were made.
And, you know, Trump had all the time in the world to make those challenges and he was shut down by courts. He was denied by Republican as well as Democratic election officials because there was no evidence. This is all about power, how to get it, how to keep it, how not to give it up. That is so opposite of everything we believe or should believe in our country about how we are a nation of laws, not of men. And they are men who try to put themselves above the law, try to hang on to power.
The other point I would quickly make is that the Supreme Court is doing our country a grave disservice in not deciding the case about immunity. This is -- I read the excellent decision by the Court of Appeals and the judges there, I think covered every possible argument. And what we heard when this case was tried before the Supreme Court, to my ear at least, were efforts to try to find loopholes, to try to create an opportunity for Trump to have attempted to overturn an election, to have carried out hundreds and hundreds of pages of very highly classified material for his own amusement, interest, trading, we don't know what.
These are very serious charges against any American, but someone who's both been a president and wants to be a president again, that should cause any voter to think, not twice, but many, many times over about whether we should entrust our country to him.
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