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Gordon_Gekko wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 2:23 pm
Hi Angel, thanks for the information. So no more write-ins? Just asking,. I only saw 4 more of the nominated films, so no problem if "the door is closed now". I just wanted to push one of them because i really liked it (its As Bestas).
The results haven't been posted yet, so send those write-ins ASAP
Gordon_Gekko wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 2:23 pm
Hi Angel, thanks for the information. So no more write-ins? Just asking,. I only saw 4 more of the nominated films, so no problem if "the door is closed now". I just wanted to push one of them because i really liked it (its As Bestas).
The results haven't been posted yet, so send those write-ins ASAP
Yes Sir, done
As the nominator of As Bestas, I'm very happy to see this!
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Nominator* = Nominator in a previous edition
AM = Arithmetic mean
V = Votes
WA = Weighted average
Cutoff = 3,554 (WA) = Induction = Demotion = Holdover
Spoiler
7 votes / rating 4,00 and above
6 votes / rating 4,17 and above
5 votes / rating 4,40 and above
4 votes / rating 4,75 and above
3 votes / rating 5,33 and above
2 votes / rating 6,0
(rating = AM)
Title
Year
Directors
URL
Nominator
AM
V
WA
...a pátý jezdec je Strach
1965
Zbynek Brynych
Gordon_Gekko
3,13
15
3,20
10 Rillington Place
1971
Richard Fleischer
joachimt
3,78
46
3,72
10 timer til Paradis
2012
Mads Matthiesen
toromash
4,00
5
3,59
1000-nen kizami no hidokei
1987
Shinsuke Ogawa
karldaniel*
4,25
8
3,79
102 Minutes That Changed America
2008
Nicole Rittenmeyer, Seth Skundrick
72aicm*
5,00
5
3,97
3 Idiots
2009
Rajkumar Hirani
TSPDT
1,78
27
2,13
36 Chowringhee Lane
1981
Aparna Sen
jal90
3,33
6
3,33
5 Fingers
1952
Joseph L. Mankiewicz
revote
3,81
27
3,70
80 egunean
2010
Jon Garaño, Jose Mari Goenaga
jal90
3,33
3
3,33
A ciascuno il suo
1967
Elio Petri
hurluberlu
3,05
22
3,12
A Cold Wind in August
1961
Alexander Singer
peeptoad
4,17
6
3,69
A Fistful of Fingers
1995
Edgar Wright
Carmel1379
4,40
5
3,74
A High Wind in Jamaica
1965
Alexander Mackendrick
revote
3,77
13
3,60
A Hora e Vez de Augusto Matraga
1965
Roberto Santos
zhangalan
4,60
5
3,82
A Ilha dos Amores
1982
Paulo Rocha
Wille
4,17
6
3,69
À la conquête du pôle
1912
Georges Méliès
Minkin
3,22
18
3,26
A Labor of Love
1976
Daniel Goldman, Robert Flaxman
Pretentious Hipster*
4,60
5
3,82
A Man Whose Life Was Full of Woe Has Been Surprised by Joy
1997
R. Bruce Elder
Perception de Ambiguity
5,50
2
3,76
A Midnight Clear
1992
Keith Gordon
jeff_v
3,73
15
3,59
A Navalha na Carne
1969
Braz Chediak
jdidaco*
4,75
4
3,80
À plein temps
2021
Eric Gravel
filmbantha
3,50
14
3,44
A Scanner Darkly
2006
Richard Linklater
Mifune
2,87
47
2,94
A Star Is Born
1937
William A. Wellman, Jack Conway, Victor Fleming
cayh
3,29
28
3,30
A tanú
1969
Péter Bacsó
Mifune
3,35
23
3,34
A Thing of Wonder: The Mind + Matter of Jerry Andrus
2002
Adrienne Leverette
Minkin
3,00
2
3,26
A Wonderful Cloud
2015
Eugene Kotlyarenko
kongs_speech
3,67
3
3,42
Abare Gôemon
1966
Hiroshi Inagaki
msainy
1,50
2
2,96
Abhimaan
1973
Hrishikesh Mukherjee
gunnar
2,83
6
3,12
About Time
2013
Richard Curtis
monclivie
2,67
27
2,82
Absences répétées
1972
Guy Gilles
Melvelet
3,23
26
3,25
Adam
2019
Maryam Touzani
Tngy
3,64
11
3,51
Addio fratello crudele
1971
Giuseppe Patroni Griffi
lineuphere
4,00
6
3,62
Adieu les cons
2020
Albert Dupontel
Fergenaprido
3,50
18
3,45
Adomas nori buti zmogumi
1959
Vytautas Zalakevicius
filmbantha
4,00
11
3,72
Aferim!
2015
Radu Jude
klaus78
3,40
25
3,38
Affliction
1997
Paul Schrader
Silga
3,21
29
3,23
After Yang
2021
Kogonada
TSPDT
2,85
26
2,96
Ägget är löst! En hårdkokt saga
1975
Hans Alfredson
72aicm
3,36
11
3,35
Ahlat Agaci
2018
Nuri Bilge Ceylan
Teproc
3,86
21
3,71
Ai sha
1981
Patrick Tam
revote
4,00
12
3,73
Ai Weiwei: Never Sorry
2012
Alison Klayman
DulceDoes
3,38
13
3,36
Al Dhakira al Khasba
1981
Michel Khleifi
gunnar
4,17
6
3,69
Al midan
2013
Jehane Noujaim
klaus78
3,57
14
3,48
Al primo soffio di vento
2002
Franco Piavoli
revote
3,45
29
3,42
All Light, Everywhere
2021
Theo Anthony
Perception de Ambiguity
3,33
6
3,33
Almacenados
2015
Jack Zagha Kababie
lineuphere
6,00
1
3,63
Amanda
2018
Mikhaël Hers
cayado-coro
4,30
10
3,87
Amanda & the Alien
1995
Jon Kroll
Pretentious Hipster
3,14
7
3,24
American Hustle
2013
David O. Russell
TSPDT
2,45
51
2,57
American Pop
1981
Ralph Bakshi
kongs_speech
2,73
15
2,94
An Dà Shealladh
2020
Joshua Bonnetta
greennui
4,67
3
3,69
An lian tao hua yuan
1992
Stan Lai
lineuphere*
3,20
5
3,28
Ana Nojoom bent alasherah wamotalagah
2014
Khadija Al-Salami
sol
3,30
10
3,31
Andhadhun
2018
Sriram Raghavan
sol
2,91
11
3,09
Angels in America
2003
Mike Nichols
monclivie
3,69
13
3,55
Aniara
1960
Arne Arnbom
greennui
4,50
2
3,56
Animals
2021
Nabil Ben Yadir
filmbantha
4,43
7
3,84
Anjô-ke no butôkai
1947
Kôzaburô Yoshimura
revote
3,79
28
3,68
Anna
2009
Rúnar Rúnarsson
zzzorf
3,25
4
3,30
Annychka
1969
Boris Ivchenko
insomnius*
3,43
7
3,38
Ansikte mot ansikte
1976
Ingmar Bergman
DudeLanez
3,57
23
3,50
Answering the Sun
2022
Rainer Kohlberger
Perception de Ambiguity
3,33
3
3,33
Aoi haru
2001
Toshiaki Toyoda
beavis
3,09
22
3,15
Aoi sanmyaku
1949
Tadashi Imai
cayado-coro
3,57
7
3,44
Zoku aoi sanmyaku
1949
Tadashi Imai
cayado-coro
3,00
7
3,18
Apple Pie
1975
Howard Goldberg
HO9OGOHO
4,00
3
3,51
Árbol viejo
1943
Isidoro Navarro
RogerTheMovieManiac88
4,33
3
3,60
Aritmiya
2017
Boris Khlebnikov
toromash*
4,38
8
3,85
Arrival
1980
Mani Kaul
flip
3,75
12
3,58
As bestas
2022
Rodrigo Sorogoyen
AB537
4,15
20
3,92
Ashad Ka Ek Din
1971
Mani Kaul
jal90
3,94
16
3,74
Ashani Sanket
1973
Satyajit Ray
revote
3,97
29
3,83
Assalto ao Trem Pagador
1962
Roberto Farias
George Eastman
3,67
27
3,59
Assault of the Killer Bimbos
1988
Anita Rosenberg
Pretentious Hipster
2,50
4
3,05
Assunta Spina
1915
Francesca Bertini, Gustavo Serena
russa03
3,21
19
3,25
At Eternity's Gate
2018
Julian Schnabel
whizwilly
3,08
13
3,17
Athena
2022
Romain Gavras
Tngy
3,57
21
3,50
Atlantis
2019
Valentyn Vasyanovych
beavis
2,75
12
2,98
Aurora's Sunrise
2022
Inna Sahakyan
hurluberlu
3,58
12
3,48
Aurore
2005
Luc Dionne
zzzorf
3,60
5
3,43
Ba shan ye yu
1980
Yigong Wu
jal90
4,40
5
3,74
Bab Al-Sama Maftuh
1989
Farida Benlyazid
matthewscott8
4,25
4
3,64
Babodeuli haengjin
1975
Ha Gil-jong
whizwilly
2,95
19
3,06
Baby Bottleneck
1946
Robert Clampett
frbrown
3,20
10
3,26
Babylon
2022
Damien Chazelle
cayh
3,21
28
3,24
Bai ri yan huo
2014
Yi'nan Diao
whizwilly
3,22
41
3,24
Bakit dilaw ang gitna ng bahag-hari?
1994
Kidlat Tahimik
insomnius*
4,20
5
3,66
Bakuchiuci: Sôchô Tobaku
1968
Kôsaku Yamashita
msainy
3,25
8
3,29
Bakumatsu taiyôden
1957
Yûzô Kawashima
revote
3,42
33
3,41
Balanta
1992
Lucian Pintilie
beavis
3,29
17
3,31
Band of Brothers
2001
David Frankel, Mikael Salomon, Tom Hanks, David Leland, Richard Loncraine, David Nutter, Phil Alden Robinson, Tony To
So excited to see the results up and running and very nice to see Adam Wants to be a Man, and multiple other make the cut. Especially surprised 10 Rillington Place managed to get in. That one has been just shy a few times, right? Maybe I should give The Panic in Needle Park another try.
I have partially been using the exercise to determine what country to manage in the next World Cup.
My progress so far:
Title
Year
Directors
URL
Nominator
AM
V
WA
Ana Nojoom bent alasherah wamotalagah
2014
Khadija Al-Salami
sol
3,30
10
3,31
Andhadhun
2018
Sriram Raghavan
sol
2,91
11
3,09
It's nice to know that my Yemeni pick was relatively close to making the cut, however, the average isn't quite high enough for me to feel comfortable managing Yemen in the next WC. As for my Indian pick, it was mostly a film for which I was curious to see how well it would do with the Indian Subcontinent Challenge also being run last month. I had hoped for a higher average for this one, but Hitchcockian thrillers are not everyone's cup of tea.
Very pleased that Adam wants to be a man becomes official! Disappointing that Animals was one voter away from making the list but I'm happy it has a chance as a holdover next year. Great start to the results
St. Gloede wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 3:28 pm
So excited to see the results up and running and very nice to see Adam Wants to be a Man, and multiple other make the cut. Especially surprised 10 Rillington Place managed to get in. That one has been just shy a few times, right? Maybe I should give The Panic in Needle Park another try.
Piavoli out 10 Rillington Place in, I'm a bit worried that the arthouse base didn't mobilize.
St. Gloede wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 3:28 pm
So excited to see the results up and running and very nice to see Adam Wants to be a Man, and multiple other make the cut. Especially surprised 10 Rillington Place managed to get in. That one has been just shy a few times, right? Maybe I should give The Panic in Needle Park another try.
Piavoli out 10 Rillington Place in, I'm a bit worried that the arthouse base didn't mobilize.
Feels like there's less and less of us every year.
(Though I do have to admit I prefer 10 Rillington Place to any Piavoli)
One out of four, that's not bad. I think Kaul is more or less a safe bet in this forum, as seen by flip's nomination also getting into (which I didn't watch and totally should). Again, Ba shan ye yu will be voted next year. I hope i can give it some visibility in next year's challenge, because I couldn't dedicate much time to watching stuff last month and was out of the challenge early on.
On the overall results, there are some quite interesting and I think it's going well so far. I am not a big fan of 10 Rillington Place, but it is a good and impactful film and I believe it somehow objectively deserved to be there.
Bao gao lao shi! Guai guai guai guai wu managed to get 3,71 with only 7 voters. I know the film can be quite divisive. Still, it gets transformed into 3,51 and does not make it, so with a small number of voters, one bad vote can have a strong effect.
Still, this suggests the film could do better with a stronger viewer base. I'll try and promote it in the future...
beasterne wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 3:29 pm
Baseball stays in
It’s about to fall off 500<400 due to # of checks, so I’m glad it’s hanging around on DtC for a while longer.
Baseball is very high on my watchlist - one of my favourite sports and Ken Burns is reliably good. Sadly his stuff tends to be hard to find and/or very expensive.
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Ah, dagnabbit. :circle: I knew I was taking a risk in nominating such an underseen film, but that Kotlayrenko joint is one of the best American indies of the 2010s. I was completely enamored when I discovered it a few months back. I also thought maybe Bakshi's masterpiece would do better. He's such an underrated auteur.
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I'm 5 films away from a bronze in DtC. I'm very excited to see the results roll out, but nervous the goal post is going to run away from me
Oh darn, I'll have to watch more films!
I know this wasn't specifically the point, but I'm OK with Ginger Snaps as canon. I liked it more than many movies on TSPDT. I don't think canon needs to equate to highbrow.
I liked Ginger Snaps and don't have a problem with it being canon either. I'm 191 away from bronze on DTC so achieving that goal is going to have to wait until next year for me, moving goalposts or not.
kongs_speech wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 12:58 am
I also thought maybe Bakshi's masterpiece would do better.
Whew, that's one of your worst m-word abuses ever. I honestly can't fathom what you find remarkable about this film. Bad animation, bad story and obvious, no-brainer music choices. And it's not even the most renowned Bakshi film.
Damn, 5 of my nominees revealed in one post. Disappointed only one of them got in, but very excited for Berliner Ballade, and can see why that's the one that made it. Shocked Chameleon Street did not make the cut. That's a film I think has a shot at TSPDT eventually, if the rediscovery continues. I wonder what put people off there. With Budapest Tales, yeah, surrealism is not everyone's cut of tea. Maybe I shouldn't have nominated it for the challenge. Dans la nuit getting close gives me hope though. As for Bübchen, another slight surprise, I thought at least it would be closer.
For the other nominees, really happy The Runner and The Innocents - while I just cant believe A Winter's Tale got the boot - we're talking about it in our next Talking Images episide. D
I think Boerensymfonie might have been an old nominee from me getting a revote, really happy it stayed in.
Some excellent films entering the list here! Really happy to see Billy Budd finally make the list. Also pleased to see Fireworks Wednesday, Der Fan, Fort Graveyard, Christiane F and Davandeh make the cut.
Another one of my nominees just missed the 8 vote threshold but at least Bruno Reidal gets a shot next time round as a holdover.
I knew Der Bunker was highly unlikely to make the list but I thought it was worth taking a punt on it. Its strangeness appeals to my sensibilities and I'm glad a lot of people checked it out during the challenge even if it didn't connect with everyone in the same way.
I really enjoyed most of the films you promoted Gloede, and I'm surprised more of them didn't make the cut, Berliner Ballade is a solid addition at least. Dans La Nuit is the one I was most taken with and I am a little disappointed it didn't make it.
Angel Glez wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:59 pm
I am afraid they are just runners-up now.
But folks should also remember that if next year's cut off is lower, then some of the runners-up will be back in the list. We had that happen a few years ago.
And now it's happening again.
Does that mean this nomination of mine of last year has a chance of making it this year afterall?
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St. Gloede wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 3:28 pm
So excited to see the results up and running and very nice to see Adam Wants to be a Man, and multiple other make the cut. Especially surprised 10 Rillington Place managed to get in. That one has been just shy a few times, right? Maybe I should give The Panic in Needle Park another try.
Piavoli out 10 Rillington Place in, I'm a bit worried that the arthouse base didn't mobilize.
Feels like there's less and less of us every year.
Not to mention the CLASSIC film board which is now me and a couple of lost souls...
Fergenaprido wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 6:14 pm But folks should also remember that if next year's cut off is lower, then some of the runners-up will be back in the list. We had that happen a few years ago.
And now it's happening again.
Does that mean this nomination of mine of last year has a chance of making it this year afterall?
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matthewscott8 wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 8:49 am
Pretty astonished by the low revote score for Dealer, indicates quite a different set of people voting now vs then.
It was originally nominated by sacmersault, now another missing doubler...
Calm with Horses is my best performing nominee so far, only just scraping under the qualifying cut-off. Not sure if I'm up to managing Ireland again in the next World Cup, but we'll see how the rest of my nominees perform. Interesting to note that Calm achieved a higher score than Dating Amber; I've been kicking myself for not going with Calm instead last year.
Oh, and I'm claiming Das Beil von Wandsbek as a sol-in-spirit victory since I'm pretty sure I nominated it before in the past.
extra 5 voters, but no extra love
that sums up my feelings about more of the results so far, including the Rohmer mentioned before...
of course I am happy about what does make it, but aside from the experimental/avant garde crowd, it seems the festival fare kinda arthouse people have indeed moved away somewhat?
or maybe it's too early yet to draw such broad conclusions...
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Waititi is not cool anymore for the mainstream since... his last Thor outing I think, but maybe it happened before that even?
Is that what they mean by cancel culture or is it just herd behaviour?
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