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Anyone find the universe/nature fucking scary?

Existential Dread

Every living creature and other human has a life just like ours. We could have just as easily been born a bird, fish or cockroach without any societal protection and had a life full of immense struggle and pain.

The fact we just popped into existence in a supposed eternal timeline given the insurmountable odds just begs the question of whether it happens again after we die.

I really fucking hope this isn't some kind of eternal torture chamber. It's so sadistic if it is. Reality is fucking cruel and it makes you wonder what else it has in store for us. Do we really get to "check-out" forever? That's also fucked but I guess better than recarnation.

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Just looking up at the sky at night away from the city freaks me out (in the country, seeing actual stars and constellations super bright/close). Knowing there is so much out there makes me feel extremely vulnerable. 

u/cattydaddy08 avatar

Same. People say it makes them feel at ease 😐

'Insignificant....

It's anxiety inducing

Oddly, that feeling of insignificance is the thing that I find so comforting when I look at the stars.

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I actually think we can learn a great deal from reincarnation. Empathy, compassion, care for other beings that are not human. If reincarnation exists, I hope it is for the purpose of learning.

u/cattydaddy08 avatar

It's not like you can use what you've learnt for the next cycle (we don't have any recollection of past lives). Even then, what could you possibly learn being a dinosaur or amoeba that you couldn't learn in your current life?

I've heard people talk about the idea.That that a infinitely powerful being.That could experience anything that they wanted may actually Decide to occasionally meaninglessly seek novelty by Lowering their infinite abilities So to speak Play, creating conciessness experiences that are not complete. So to speak in the sense that they don't have a true view of reality and are really just a combination of sensory inputs to create a hallucinatory experience. That is a approximate recreation of the true reality.Basically, basically.This is a branch off of the hole.We are the universe experiencing itself idea

u/cattydaddy08 avatar

Ah, so I'm just a masochist? 😂

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We do seem to have an innate moral compass though, perhaps that's from experience?

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Nature is violent.

Most likely because it works quite mechanically: difference pieces work together as a system to evolve and perpetuate itself at the cost of disposable elements that can be replaced.

There is no apparent intention to it: if you drown in a stormy sea, is the sea intentionally killing you? No, the sea itself is influenced and constrained by the laws of physics: the law of cause-consequence took it to that state, and you just happened to be there.

As for what happens after we die, we will find out soon enough.

u/cattydaddy08 avatar

I completely agree with you. Laws of physics are violent and unkind to living things.

Everything about existence is paradoxical: they are violent and unkind, but also the foundation that allows us to exist, survive and thrive in the first place.

Pretty much like the relationship with our parents: thanks to them we are here, and also, ugh, thanks to them we are here...

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A infinitely powerful being may just be seeking novelty and the only novelty and infinitely powerful being could ever experience would be reducing their abilities because The opposite of infinity is not infinity meaning finite Like the reality we live in which clearly is fine Nite And has limitations and rules like physics

I dunno man, life is dynamic and equally cool and scary. but how many times do you need to drop an F bomb when you talk about it?

u/cattydaddy08 avatar

A fucking lot man.

why? is it scary? is life a sleight? is it like the johnny hobo tune where it talks about it covering holes in the ol' thought process? i'm not saying this to bust your balls either man, but c'mon now.

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u/Annual-Command-4692 avatar

Me. Since I was 9 I've thought about this. What is beyond space? Does eternity end? How? What is life? Why do we exist? Why am I me and not someone else? What is death? Is there anything after? What? It's terrifying.

u/cattydaddy08 avatar

Exactly. And the more I try and learn about quantum mechanics and time dilation, the scarier the unknown becomes.

u/Annual-Command-4692 avatar

Yes. For me, it's subjective experience and death that are the biggest fears.

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Reminds me of Friedrich Nietzsche idea of 'Eternal Recurrence."

Make peace with death. It changes things. When you’re okay with dying any second, the line between “scary” and “fascinating” gets super blurry.

Yes it feels like a torture chamber to me the fact that we can’t control anything even though we think we can. I’m scared of reincarnation for that exact reason. And I still don’t know what my own future holds.!