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Am I missing something with “God is not Dead” movie?

I just watched this and didn’t get it. I remember the hype when it first came out and my friends loving it. But I never saw it until now. I felt like it was kind of ridiculous. I grew up as a Baptist so I’m familiar with Christians acting like every inconvenience is martyrdom. But really? The student can’t write a sentence without acting like he’s being persecuted. Almost every problem in this movie is easily solvable. I kept thinking “It’s not that deep.” Also as a former atheist, I don’t like Christian portrayals of atheists. What do you guys make of these kinds of evangelical Christian propaganda movies? Am I supposed to like them as a Christian? Are there orthodox movies that you would recommend?

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Most Christian movies aren't very good unfortunately. I know there's gems like Prince of Egypt out there though.

Prince of Egypt is a great one for sure

Maybe up there with such great films as... Uh. I haven't seen any other Christian movies.

Veggie tales kinda smacks, depending on which one you watch.

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u/See-RV avatar

Island is one I believe 

Man of God is another. 

Fiddler on the Roof is one my priest recommended, as part of premarital counseling, it displays the different kinds of love, though it follows a Jewish family and only minorly features Orthodox characters. 

I love the Fiddler on the Roof! One of my two favorite musicals of all time, the other one being Les Miserables

u/GregTheHun avatar

Which one is Island, tried finding it on IMDB to no avail.

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"Supposed to like them?" Well, tbh I hated that movie too. Terrible representation of Christians, Atheists, evangelism, philosophy... just about everything. The story was too disjointed, too many parallel plot lines that only came together because they all just happened to be at the same Christian rock concert at the end. Acting was not good at all. Yelling at your professor, asking him why he hates God, is not going to convert him. And I, as a philosophy student, have never had a professor say that "in order to do philosophy, you have to assume that God doesn't exist." That's a stupid thing for a professor to say. And no professor would ever get away with publicly giving one student an entire additional courseload without getting reported and probably fired. The whole thing is stupid and contrived.

Unfortunately, a lot of Christian movies are like that.

It's not Orthodox specifically, but "The Most Reluctant Convert" is a movie/monologue that follows the process of C.S. Lewis's conversion to Christianity, and is one of the better Christian movies I've seen (and by that I mean, it's actually fantastic!).

God’s Not Dead is one of the worst films I’ve ever seen. The only people I have met IRL who authentically enjoyed it were evangelicals with persecution complexes.

“Man of God” is the only specifically Orthodox Christian movie I have seen and DreamWorks’ “The Prince of Egypt” is the best Christian movie I have seen.

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Lord of the Rings 

 I'm serious.  

 In my mind good Christian films don't need to preach or discuss biblical figures or explicitly talk about being a Christian. There's a Golden rule in not just film making, but writing in general, called 'Show don't tell', and explicitly out and out Christian movies tend to universally fail this rule.

  Instead, good Christian films are those that glorify characters who embody what it is to be Christian.  

 Repentence. Sacrifice. Long suffering. Loving others. Peacemaking. Self denial. Forgiveness, and on and on it goes.

 Heck, just because Lord of the Rings is such an obvious example, I'm going to mention another film most might not expect; Train to Busan, an absolutely visceral and terrifying Korean zombie film, of all things. The characters written to be endearing, are those who embody traits that are ultimately worthy templates of how a good Christian would hope to behave in horrific circumstances.  

There are limits and you must have discernment of course, as some films, just as with any art, have no redeeming Christian quality and may do more harm than good to your spiritual life. These should be avoided. But just because we're to see God and seek holiness in all we do, that doesn't mean we need to limit our experiences with the art of film to the most cheesy, pontificating and patronising abominations ever put to screen.

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When Gandalf the gray came back as Gandalf the white, it was a beautiful experience. I totally agree how LoTR aligns.

And the first will be last and the last will be first.

There are many examples of the humble being glorified while the haughty being brought low ala Matthew 20:16 in LotR, but Gandalf becoming Saruman, the mightiest wizard; as he ought to have been, whilst the conceited Saruman is reduced to petulance when his plans are brought to ruin is the most opaque.

The books further drive this home with the Mai'ar that becomes Gandalf openly expressing his fear in journeying to Middle Earth, and Saruman being brought further low during the scouring of the shire.

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I love LoTR! You gave me an excuse to watch the movies again.

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You’re not missing anything, this movie sucked.

The gay witch show made by Disney portrays Christian views better then That franchise (with one exception, I have heard the third one is less arrogant and preachy which is good)

if You want good Christian media jsut watch the prince of Egypt, lotr and veggietales

heck even bibleman is cheesy and self aware about what it is

u/beamerbeliever avatar

Gay witch show?

The owl house

here’s a orthodox member’s views on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdxHYtduEj0

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It's trash.

u/turnipturnipturnippp avatar

I don't think most people liked the movie, just that the people who were primed to like the movie were the only ones who sought it out.

I haven't seen it, but "Christian" movies have been bad for decades. (I was a teenager during the Left Behind craze, same junk different packaging)

I didn’t like the end of the movie, but I think its appeal is that the main storyline is based on a true story. I watched it with my children who enjoyed it, and it was a good conversation starter. There are certainly better films, but we still consume evangelical content and discuss how it’s different from our faith.

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I wasn't a fan of some of the themes of the movie, as far as how the end of it felt to be "marketable", the music choices, etc.

The acting of Sorbo's character was a little over the top, but was closer to in line with my own perspective when I was an atheist, more than I would like to admit. Not perfectly in line, but close. The biggest gripe for me was the assertion that starting to believe was as simple as it was portrayed. It took a lot of soul searching, thinking, and finally praying before I was convinced. I think the way they showed him at the end did a disservice because it made it seem as if it's just this straightforward thing you just choose to do because you feel like it when it's much harder than that. It's like saying "Just stop doing drugs. Just don't do them. Duh!" If you have a lifetime of habit and neglect and hatred and anger and rage within you, it's a very big ask to "just believe".

Regarding some of the hollow, easily solvable aspects of the movie, yeah I get that. I think Gods Not Dead 2 did a slight better job, but overall the Western perspective is one that hasn't been exposed to significant persecution in hundreds of years, so the best we can come up with is these pitiful things of "I lost my job!! I failed a term paper!!" Etc. We don't have living people who had to deal with facing literal death sentences for owning a Bible, so we just have these ineffectual "so what?" scenarios. I think that if The Church as a whole had a stronger internal bond between nations, and the laity got to hear from those who live in Islamic countries, or places like China, where Christians can face literal death for believing, maybe our focus would be more aligned with focusing on the big stuff, rather than if some politician makes some law that is anti-Christian; it's not that it doesn’t matter, but rather that it matters less to people who aren't Christian themselves. They don't feel the same sense of worry over it that we do.

u/Highwayman90 avatar

I've seen that movie. It's pretty silly honestly.

u/agorapnyx avatar

It's just another forgettable feel-good Evangelical film that pretends to be somehow evangelistic in nature but really just plays to the Evangelical crowd - the very definition of preaching to the choir.