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So I actually saw the scans of these for the first time, anyone feel like helping explain how they make sense to me as I see huge issues with the validity of all three of them. Is there critical context missing or what?
So my issues with each respectively.
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I'm kinda confused by who it's referring to due to it seeming to change perspective midway through but it clearly states and shows there was a fight, however there was a billionth of a second head start gained by one of the two. As a picosecond is a trillionth of a second they would've had enough time to perform the fight a thousand times over during that head start. Is this just a math error and if it is wouldn't that invalidate both of the numbers?
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They just say they deactivated the gun a picosecond ago, not that they deactivated it in a picosecond. Also they give 3s as the time taken to get to Singapore, that's a good few orders of magnitude different from the speed required to get to the gun and back. I think this one is just people misconstruing it,
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What events last less than an attosecond that the Flash could perceive? This is less of an issue as that's actually within an order of magnitude of human achievement, only they lack incredibly sensitive equipment to see the kind of thing we do so what events were they perceiving? Although it still seems to be a massive outlier compared to the rest of their stuff.
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Don't forget about good ol' femtoseconds.
The Zoom Fight:
I assume the "Pico-second" part is the piece after Zoom gets a head start of 1 billionth of a second.
The Mirror Master Gun:
Flash took an action in a singular picosecond, regardless of whether it was the entire disabling of the gun, or just smashing the chip.
The Singapore bit is him being quite casual, he isn't going all out to go to Singapore.
The Attosecond, I don't know what events he is talking about, as the only real world events on that time scale are far too small for him to observe, so I assume it has something to do with that "running faster than time" bit.
So Zoom gets a headstart that lasts 1000x longer then the fight does and doesn't use it get in thousands of attacks? That seems pretty suss.
Smashing the chip seemed to happen while talking to Mirror Master and so they could see it to me, that's the impression I'm getting by the fact they're talking while doing it and Mirror Master is nowhere near those speeds. I get where the doing it in less then a picosecond for disabling comes from, you look at it as that's when they went to disable it as opposed to that's when they disabled it as I did, like saying you fixed something an hour ago, I'd be thinking you finished fixing it an hour ago so fix time is unknown but the other view is that's when they went to fix it so fix time is under an hour.
That's a point, what does "running faster than time" mean?
They are racing towards the object. I assume the picosecond is the time it takes from him Vibrating his hand through Flash, to getting KTFO.
Either way, I take the Picosecond statement to be the "more correct" one, as it is more encompassing statement "The entire fight", and the more apt term(scientific prefix vs. layman's explanation)
Time travel, entering the speed-force, other Speed-force shenanigans.
So Flash is 1000x faster than Zoom now? That could work but I've always gotten the impression that Zoom is meant to be on par or faster than the Flashs. As for picoseconds being "more correct" I'd contest that heavily, the author would be less likely to know what a picosecond is then what a billion is and having an explicit lead shouldn't be any less accurate than having an explicit length for the fight. That and it's worth mentioning that both of them will be moving FTL through most of that fight, Flash would actually have to slow down to perform the IMP as the speeds to move that far in so little time, light travels less than a millimeter in a picosecond after all and they're definitely travelling slower than that to be able to perform an IMP, so given the speed demonstrated by Zoom to be able to attack in a nanosecond he'd basically be needing to shift from heavily FTL to sub-light speeds within a hairsbreadth of them to both meet the time constraint and not be dodged.
I think it can just be put down to they screwed up their maths and the numbers are near useless.
If that's how you want to take the information, that's your prerogative
So, lets take a look at picoseconds: A picosecond is an SI unit of time equal to 10−12 or 1/1,000,000,000,000 of a second. That is one trillionth, or one millionth of one millionth of a second, or 0.000 000 000 001 seconds.
A picosecond is to one second as one second is to 31,700 years. In a single second, light circumnavigates the earth seven and a half times. In a single picosecond, light moves less than a millimetre. Going from moving in picoseconds to, for example, 3 second trips to Singapore is ridiculous.
Don't even get me started on attoseconds
So? Its ridiculous, half of fiction is ridiculous.
It's the inconsistency that they're probably having issue with, why does he move several thousand times FTL while deactivating the gun to several dozen times slower then light, why would they seemingly boast about their speed in getting to Singapore when they were just moving hundreds of thousands of times faster then that?
It's just inconsistent, almost as if the authors don't really think about the numbers they use so don't realise they make no sense with each. Which would actually be totally normal and just throw all their validity into doubt, either that or Flash's travel speed is massively slower than their combat speed for some reason.
Willingness to give a shit. People misunderstand the Speedforce; to go genuinely fast Flash has to call upon and expend effort. For Flash it's not about holding back less, its about trying harder, which is different.
Okay, it's ridiculous and inconsistent.