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He's absolutely right about Two And A Half Men, what a garbage show
Jim Curtin is an intellectual and prefers Big Bang Theory. BAZINGA!
BAZINGA is the war cry of their tall leader, Sheldon.
i like viewing the show "pre-tall sheldon"
I don't really get how it ever won any Emmy's, not that award shows indicate quality but still.
People who love cocaine voted for cocaine users?
This is funny only cause Jon Cryer is the one who's won
This is a reddit post lol
It’s a show about rich white people living life. Doesn’t matter if it’s actually good (Modern Family) or bad (friends, 2 and a half men), it’s going to do well in America lol
Only one of the two-and-a-half men were rich.
lol sure. Takes place nearly entirely in a Malibu beach house.
Until Joey made it as an actor late in the series, Friends was pretty explicitly about people who weren't supposed to be rich. Now, the lifestyle portrayed was very much people who were rich, but that was more an artifact of how sitcoms were filmed than the actual status of the characters. Most of the time the characters had shitty jobs or straight up no jobs.
Please don't take this as a defense of Friends, it really is an awful show.
Anybody living in a half decent place in a major city is assumed to be rich in modern day. Monica living in that place was already controversial 30 years ago. Now it's preposterous.
*Emmys
It’s been off the air for a number of years at this point so I think it’s a bit stale.
Basically, I wouldn’t spend any time thinking about Two and a Half Men
So, same as the writers?
He should have said Big Bang Theory, but I guess that'd be dated now too. Maybe Young Sheldon would have been more topical.
Ashton Kutcher just got PUNK'd!
Gonna zag here - Two and a Half Men is great. Definitely a bit of a "guy" show, but at its peak it was one of the funniest shows on TV.
Wouldn't recommend binging it but it's great in small doses.
I’ve seen bits of some episodes while it was on in the background. There was never a single time that made me laugh or enjoy it. When I think of terrible TV shows it’s one of the first that comes to mind. But to each their own.
No, it was garbage.
MLS will get butt hurt and fine him but it's a good quote.
Can they fine him for having a (correct) opinion about Two and a Half Men? I remember when David Beckham compared MLS referees to AYSO, I don't think he got fined.
MLS getting the ban hammer out, then he spits fire about 2 1/2 men and they slowly lower it again.
Does anyone have a screenshot? Because watching it live i thought it was blatantly onside. Couldnt believe they chalked it off.
We need the tech implemented to do offisde & goalline tech to a higher degree of accuracy ASAP.
It's one of those weird ones where he looked blatantly onside on the replay, but I think it may have been just offside based on the lines that I crudely drew.
https://i.postimg.cc/xC6JNfT7/Uhre.png
Flashbacks to Johnny Russell restraining himself from getting fined when he was trying to air his frustrations with Philly getting the bad throw-in call late against KC
It happens to everyone...
Didn’t expect to be agreeing with a Curtain quote tonight, but here we are.
I dislike Curtin. It was a bad miss. But Atlanta let the goals happen with errors and it's a great quote.
I don't know what else he said, but he isn't criticizing the refs in this quote, he is criticizing the rule book. That's fair game.
Yeah, they call it their “public criticism” policy, which is poor poor thinking on their end. They trying to look like North Korea?
Fucking boss quote.
All time MLS quote.
I didn't want the game and have no idea what he is talking about but I agree with that last part.
Really close offside negated a goal and didn’t even go to VAR.
Every goal is reviewed, it went to VAR.
And offside is reviewed differently to most other decisions - unless it's a question of whether or not they're "active", players are either offside or they're not.
Lol! Two and a half Men catching strays from MLS for no reason
i don't know. i think it's pretty clear and obvious why it's catching strays, but maybe that's just me
I'm now far more curious than I ever thought I'd be, certainly more than I'd ever wanted to be, about what Jim Curtin considers to be good comedy.
He seems like a Community fan imo
He always struck me as one of those guys that walks around throwing out relevant Simpsons quotes.
It’s always sunny in Philadelphia, duh.
I dunno, those glasses kinda scream "I am a master of the Cones of Dunshire"
... so you see, this formation pushes my fullbacks up the wings, forcing my midfielders to cut inside and pulling Farmer - yes, humble Owen Farmer - directly into the center circle.
The ref was awful. Jon Freemon, the same guy who did the LAFC-LA Galaxy match with that PK call.
lamo
lmao, I bet the answer to which play he's talking about is different based on which fanbase you support
That’s an amazing quote.
Curtin correct on both aspects of this quote.
I love that most of the top comments are about everyone agreeing that two and a half men is an awful show.
I’m laughing pretty hard at this. I hate two and a half men😂
I cant f’n stand it either… when you mention not liking it the fans call you a soft prude thats too sensitive to its raunch… im like “m’fer I grew up watching Married With Children, that show is of the same ilk except that show was actually funny”….
The kid actor was horrible on the show even though he is a good actor (he was great in The Rookie)
He took a hard right turn into fundie territory at some point, tho.
It’s just like that JG Wentworth commercial song. Some people love it but some people hate it.
I HAVE A STRUCTURED SETTLEMENT BUT I NEED CASH NOOOOOOOW
CALL J G WENTWORTH
877-CASH-NOW!
Head on! Apply directly to the forehead.
Some people are wrong
Wait some people hate this? Me and my brother used to scream it at each other
Bro! Had been a while since I'd thought about that commercial. It is back to stuck in my head now
TIL people watch Two and a Half Men.
Scab refs were dragged way more than the pro guys in the media and in this subreddit for mistakes way less significant than those we’ve seen from Freemon the past two weeks. Hell, they were even dragged for what was a correct decision by the rule of the law (Derrick Jones’ Red card)
💯‼️
And anyone saying the scabs were really not far off the level of the usual refs was dragged too
I don't know how atypical this is but sounders had better refs than I'm used to for 2 of the 5 games before PRO returned, arguably 3 of them. I was pretty public about that and took a LOT of hate for it.
People dislike the scabs because they're betraying their colleagues. Not all of them are incompetent, or at least are "broken clock is right twice a day".
Theoretically the best refs in the world could be scabs. But there sure as hell are some bad non-scabs
Nah, that's part of it but people were also bitching about how many VARs there were and talking about how "this bad call doesn't happen under PRO" when we see it under PRO every week. A huge part of it was amnesia about how bad our referees usually are.
do you realize how terrible someone has to be at their job for folks to be advocating for fucking scabs?
The whole “support the refs!” because “always support labor” is so fucking lazy. Unions keep bad cops and teachers employed. Unions also keep shitty refs employed.
I said it during the locut and got downvoted to oblivion but IDGAF. PRO Refs have been putting out shit-tier garbage on the field for YEARS. The scabs were no worse than the refs we have before and we have now. It is BY FAR the most frustrating thing about watching the MLS. YES reffing is hard, but NO the impotence we see out there every week is NOT normal.
Fucking lol. It's like the reasonable person legal standard in a world full of unreasonable people.
My working theory has always been that millions of old people died with their TVs set to CBS and it’s messed with the ratings
Based
If we somehow beat Philly this year, we should totally play this theme song immediately after the match.
Unfathomably based Curtain
Are you fucking kidding me? Incredible quote. Protect this man at all costs.
This might be the single greatest quote I’ve ever heard from a soccer manager.
That’s something most people don’t seem to understand about officiating soccer.
It’s not like chess where the rules is clear and not subject to interpretation that the pawn can only move one space forward and attack one space diagonal.
Soccer rules are full of judgments and interpretations that will vary human to human and every interaction will be unique to some degree.
I’ve put my hand on a players back. Is that a push? Ok, now I’ve applied a very minimal amount of pressure with my hand? Is that a push? Ok, now I’ve applied a bit more pressure with my hand then before. Is that a push? When does something go from permissible to sanctionable? Its subjective. There’s no scientific way to measure that.
People want “black and white” but that’s not possible. Officiating is gray.
You’re right that generally officiating is usually a gray area, but Curtin is referring to offsides here. Which is by definition, black and white - it shouldnt be subject to “clear and obvious” as you’re either onside or you aren’t. No matter how tight, there has to be a definite line somewhere
If refs don't have a definitive way to measure something then it can't be a definitive (or necessarily clear and obvious) call
The definitive way to measure exists in other leagues. It sounds like Curtin is criticizing MLS for not having lines and instead being lazy and relying on “clear and obvious.”
Which I agree, if MLS wants to be a legitimate league, it should have the ability to measure offsdie
You can define a foot to be 12 inches long, so it should be black and white whether something is a foot long. But if you don’t have an exceptionally accurate inch ruler, then your decision about whether something is a foot long is no longer a black and white decision.
I do not agree. Overuse of VAR in the premier league, spending 20 minutes looking for a minuscule call is fucking terrible. If a call is not clear and obvious, then play on.
Your time keeping is almost as good as Freemon's at the end of this game.
Let's not exaggerate. Can they spend 3 minutes drawing in the lines to check a legitimate goal....sure. do they spend 20? No.
The PL also makes up the "wasted" time on that by not calling nonsense fouls and letting players flip flop all over the ground for getting touched.
Conclusion: There are different standards, and it shows between the leagues.
If the MLS wants to put themselves in a higher class, they need to hold the officiating up to those higher standards as well. Or things will be slow to change.
If a qualified VAR ref says "this needs to be reviewed" then they should review it and make the call.
To go down to a referee on the field who wants to "save face" and not look like he made a bad call so he doesn't overturn his original decision which was called viewing it at game speed, is just as bad as the player who flopped. Denis Bouanga Penalty - Freemon again. Who is his boss? Who takes him off to the side and says, Hey listen, you got that wrong.... we're gonna need you to ref some Wednesday night games for a while...
PROfessionals should be just that - professional.
There's a very scientific way to measure force. We just don't want to re-write sports rules in terms of Newtons and figure out a way for players to run around wearing force gauges somehow.
We could probably put really accurate GPS trackers and force sensors in balls and uniforms, etc. Have Matrix-esque 360° cameras around the fields, as well as from above, to construct live 3D modeling of the game, in addition to scanning each player as they step onto the field, etc. Honestly, I bet most rules could be re-written and enforced in objective ways at the highest levels.
It's just that no one wants to do that.
Very fair to say no one wants to completely and utterly destroy the game in that manner yes.
I'd be interested to see it play out, tbh
The rules of game design would call that a broken game. But unfortunately I have to admit that a lot of the fun of soccer would be sucked away if you tried to make everything black and white (as frustrating as it can sometimes be).
Nerf PKs
mls 1.0 tried that, and we need to go back
How is that relevant to an offside call, where the league emphasis is for the refs to keep their flag down.
Keep their flag down until the play ends. Not just "don't call offsides if it's close".
They still have to make the call, they just delay the announcement of the call a bit.
It may not be. It’s more of a commentary on language and how people interpret it.