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Dr Miriam Stoppard: She does it her way

Dr Miriam Stoppard controls her many careers, from newspaper agony aunt to best-selling author, with a steely determination - all while perfectly coiffed and made-up, of course. So what's behind her forceful personality, asks Deborah Ross, nervously

Monday 03 November 2003 01:00 GMT
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I meet Dr Miriam Stoppard - a sort of Joan Collins of childcare advice and do-it-yourself health - in central London, at the offices of Miriam Stoppard Lifetime, her latest business venture selling her own range of toys, books, creams and the Baby Babbleboom layette range, available from Debenhams and selling very well, by all accounts.

She is also, of course, the Daily Mirror's agony aunt, and the host of several telephone helplines, including one on vaginal dryness, which I've yet to call, but have noted the number (0901 562 8538), just in case of future emergencies of a distressingly parched nature. Her latest book is Defying Age, in which she is pictured wearing support stockings and going up and down her Stannah stairlift while reading a Saga holiday brochure, fretting about the gas bill and trimming her corns. Oh, all right then; she's pictured getting out of a taxi in a deliciously sumptuous faux fur and pearl-drop earrings.

Certainly, she is 66 and looks brilliant; has done a good job on the defying front, so to speak. She is wearing, today, black pants, black boots with saucy fuchsia soles, and a designer jumper with a cat face on it. Her hair-do is dark, perky, mid-life Elizabeth Taylor, and her make-up glamorously plentiful. I ask if she has had anything... ahem... done? She has had her eyes done, she says, but only because she appeared on telly one time, and the cameraman said to her: "My God, Miriam, your eyes!" And she's had her lips done, some kind of collagen treatment, but only because "I had cold-sore scars". I'm very pleased, by the way, to see that there is How To Satisfy Your Man 1 (0901 562 8541) as well as How to Satisfy Your Man 2 (0901 562 8541). It's always good to get a second go at things, although I imagine if you have got 0901 562 8538, you're probably not in the mood.

We settle in a little sideroom. I ask if she ever wakes up in the morning and thinks: "Nah, I can't be arsed to be a distinguished doctor, scientist, businesswoman and best-selling author today. Sod it, I'm going to lie in and watch This Morning." Sometimes, she says, she does have difficulty "climbing into the day", but her first-thing exercise regime (treadmill, exercise bike, half an hour minimum) usually sorts her out nicely.

I ask if she has a favourite Jewish joke. Yes, she does. "What's the worst thing about a Jewish princess having a colostomy? Trying to find shoes to match the bag." We laugh. Her laugh is light, soft, even tinkling. She then says, with a flutter of hands: "You're not going to print that, are you?" She can be quite girlish. And flirtatious. "Ohh, that looks heavy," she says to the photographer, with an actual batting of her eyelashes, when he takes out his big, manly camera. She used, apparently, to wear incredibly fancy false eyelashes that came in a brown envelope from Switzerland, but she's given up on them now. I'd read, too, in an interview given some years ago, that she always went to bed in full make-up because she could not bear for her husband (at that time the playwright Tom Stoppard) to see her minus cosmetics. I give a laugh of the "oh, the-things-we-do-when-we-are-young" variety. Silence. Oh, bugger. You still do it, don't you Miriam?

Yes, she says, she does. Why? So that her now husband (the industrialist Sir Christopher Hogg) doesn't see her minus cosmetics? "No. My husband is usually asleep by the time I get to bed." So, why? "Why not?" Because it must feel yukky. Because you're a dermatologist! "I don't understand why you are so interested in this," she says. I say it's because I don't know any other woman who goes to bed in full make-up, apart from when they are utterly pissed, of course. She says: "I have very dry skin and make-up helps keep it moisturised. Also, skin cells do not replenish until 8am [I have this image of them all looking at their watches], so why bother taking it off at night?" She adds: "You're making too much of this. I don't give it a second thought."

Her voice is still soft and light, but not tinkling. There's a flinty tone to it now, something quite scary, something almost Thatcher-like. I still don't get the make-up thing, though. What is it all about? I mean, if she were Jordan instead of distinguished doctor, scientist, businesswoman, Lady Hogg etc, it would be one thing. How do you solve a problem like Miri-am? (Understanding Miriam: 0901 562 8799. I wish!)

Well, certainly, control is a big thing with her. Control of looks, control of health, control of ageing ("You're in the driving seat when it comes to setting the limit on your own mortality," she writes in the introduction to Defying Age), control of appetite. Do you have any bad health habits, Dr Stoppard? "I'd have a mountain if I gave into them. I love cake!" When Tom left her after two sons and 20 years of marriage for Felicity Kendal, she was, alas, the model of controlled dignity, never, for example, referring to Miss Kendal as "that evil, dungareed old slag".

She's all up for controlling me, asks if she can see the copy before it comes out in the newspaper. No, you bloody can't, I don't say, because I'm pathetic. She's all up for controlling the photographer: "Oh, please, not with my hands all over the place... and don't make me look educationally subnormal." Also, I'd arrived with that morning's Mirror, in which an error meant that, on her page, "pubic lice" had become "public lice" (but not, at least, public pubic lice, which I wouldn't wish on anybody). I'm not sure why I pointed this out to her, but I did, and when I spoke to Dr Stoppard over the telephone a few days later, she said a full investigation had been launched and sub-editors reprimanded, and a new system was in place so that such "a thing" would not happen again. Yikes. A flibbertigibbet? A will-o'-the-wisp? I don't think so. And I say this rather admiringly, if not very admiringly. Age cannot wither her, because it wouldn't bloody dare. She's magnificent!

Is her adult self in some ways a rebuttal of her childhood self? Maybe. But then, I suppose, whose isn't? Perhaps with Miriam, it's just more so. Born Miriam Stern, she was brought up in a Jewish working-class family in Newcastle. Her father, Stanley, was a nurse, while her mother Jenny worked for the city's school-dinners service. The family were ultra, ultra orthodox. Miriam and her younger sister Hazel walked three miles to chayder and then three miles back, every single day after regular school. They were ultra, ultra kosher, too, of course; four sets of everything, which Miriam was always mixing up, and which could then only be purified by burying in the earth. There was always a saucepan handle or two sticking out from the ground out back, she remembers. I ask if she suffered anti-Semitism at school. For sure, she says. In particular, she recalls being cornered by some kids, called a Jesus-killer, and stoned. "I can still see that corner of the brick coming at me now."

Her upbringing was repressive, to say the least. Sexually, almost everything was taboo. When Miriam had her first period she thought she had cancer and was going to die. When she and Hazel passed a poster on the street of the actor Jane Russell showing a buxom cleavage for her film The Outlaw, their father put his hands over their eyes. "And I remember going to a Jewish youth club when I was 15, wearing a Yardley lipstick called Natural Rose because all the other girls were wearing it. My father put my face under the tap and scrubbed it off with the soap my mother used to clean the floor, calling me a harlot." Can this go part way to explaining her later passion for lashings of 24-hour make-up? Also: "I was a fat child and suffered greatly as a result. I was called Dumbo at school and it did make me insecure. These things don't go away, do they? They are very difficult to slough off. I've never been able to see myself as anything but fat since." She is fair evangelical about exercise: "It controls appetite, so you don't have any cravings."

Her parents were not affectionate. She once asked her mother why this was so, to which her mother replied that "it was wartime, and she thought if anything went wrong we'd be interned in Auschwitz. She wanted us to be capable of existing on our own, not too dependent." She knew that her father was proud of her, but that wasn't the same as knowing that he loved her. "It's not a good enough substitute." Still, she worked feverishly hard to encourage that pride. It was, after all, the only substitute. She did brilliantly academically, became a senior registrar in dermatology and then managing director of a major pharmaceutical company before turning to popular medicine.

I ask when she first started moving away from orthodox Judaism. She says she remembers precisely; she was 16, in synagogue, and the rabbi was "preaching about the purity of the race, and I thought, 'This is nonsense and wrong'." At 18, she was taken to a Chinese restaurant on a date and ordered a dish which contained "the most delicious little pink things". Shrimp. She was sick when she was told what they were. Had to rush outside and vomit. "But I still thought it silly to forbid something so delicious." And then, at 24, she married a Quaker (and, at last, got her oats, I suppose). Yes, her father threw out her possessions, blacked the windows, "tore his shirt and did the 'my daughter is dead' thing. It was more than marrying out, I was leaving my programming behind. I remember saying to my mother, 'I can't do what you say because now I have someone more important than you.'"

Miriam continued to phone her parents every Friday evening even though, for three years, they hung up at the sound of her voice. This must have been hard for her. But perhaps the need to escape the constraints and oppressions of formal religion was greater than the need to be a good, biddable daughter. Perhaps she was fed up with being controlled, desperately wanted to control. The rift was never fully healed, although some kind of reconciliation was achieved when that first marriage failed and Miriam took up with Tom. Tom was Jewish, first off, plus "my parents absolutely adored him". I ask if she felt any conflict, turning her back on Judaism. "I think it's still a conflict. One doesn't shake that off. It was Yom Kippur a few weeks ago and I didn't fast, but I did think about fasting, for my father's sake."

Anyway, it's time to go. A taxi has arrived to whoosh her off somewhere. She has a last boss of the photographer: "Don't make me look like a middle-aged Jewish housewife." She's off, it turns out, to Chelsea and Westminster Hospital as her first grandchild, Esme, had been born at 3am that morning. Mazeltov, I say, so exciting! "Yes. Very exciting," she says. Still, it seems odd that she hadn't mentioned it earlier. How do you solve a problem like Miri-am? Who knows. I hope Esme enjoys her Baby Babbleboom layette, though. And did I mention just how magnificent Dr Stoppard is? I did. Well, these things can bear repeating, I have always found.

'Defying Age' is published by Dorling Kindersley (£15.99). Irritable Bladder: 0901 562 8551. Calls cost 60p per minute, so, if your bladder is irritable, don't let on, as it will probably only make it more irritable

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