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Official Knuckles Discussion Post (Spoilers)

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We are going to utilize this space for a bit in order to keep the feed clean and reduce spoilers for those who may not be able to watch it all right away.

Discuss episodes, characters, plots, jokes, likes, dislikes, reviews, etc in here.

As always, stay civil. It's okay to not like something, and feel free to post any opinions, good or bad. But we don't need to be needlessly antagonistic about it.

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u/SeaweedExpress6556 avatar

You can hate on Knuckles all you want, but doomposting about how the Sonic movies are ruined for some side show is so corny

u/applec1234 avatar

100% agreed, the doomposting on Sonic twt is unbelievably toxic. I don't even like the miniseries and the different creative team, but it's not like that is gonna destroy any interest with Sonic Movie 3.

u/Itch-HeSay avatar

I completely agree. I totally understand the Knuckles series not being someone else's cup of tea, but it was always going to be a lower budget production than the movies with a noticeably different creative team. It's a test run for future spin-offs and can safely be ignored despite maybe a few interesting blink-and-you-miss-it lore implications (which will probably get explanations again if they matter at all).

u/Remarkable-Papaya-59 avatar

Is this actually a thing? I think Knuckles was just as good as the mainline movies, if not even a little bit better.

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u/bluedragon761 avatar

Easter egg at the end of the final episode. There's mention of another time aliens visit earth 50 years earlier. This is most likely a reference to Black Doom. The alien that helped with Shadow creation.

u/Lost_Page_2030 avatar

Not sure how I feel about the implication Shadow went to a bowling tournament.

u/scrybesilver avatar

... Maybe Maria snuck him into one to watch? Even ultimate lifeforms need some form of enrichment, so who knows lol

u/Lost_Page_2030 avatar

The image of Maria and Shadow sneaking out of an actual space station to watch some bowling is honestly hilarious, so thanks for that.

u/Fit-Rip-4550 avatar

I do not think there is an actual space station in the Sonic cinematic universe. Too hard to hide.

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Black Doom wanted to have a quality father-son night with Shadow.

Twist: The finale of Sonic 3 is going to be a shot-for-shot remake of the this show's bowling match, just with Shadow and Doom.

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After watching Knuckles' finale, I believe it. 💀

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u/mranoneemoose avatar

I was wondering that too, just what he was doing in a bowling alley at that time 50 years ago? Until I remembered it must have been right after Maria ejected him from the ARK in that space capsule. He must have landed nearby and was exploring out of curiosity before they found him and reprogrammed his memories and put him in cryo sleep

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Yeah.

Black Doom is likely going to be referenced in Sonic Movie 3.

They said they are pulling from both SA2 and Shadow the Hedgehog 2005. Plot relevant points from Shadow 05 are Black Doom and his connection to Shadow and the G.U.N Commander.

The animal characters in the movies are aliens and their powers are Chaos energy. Gerald creating Shadow, who is the same species as Sonic, has Chaos powers and presumably has knowledge of the Chaos emeralds requires an alien benefactor. It’s highly unlikely Gerald recreated a member of an alien species and Chaos energy through sheer coincidence. Black Doom is the alien benefactor in the games.

Not to mention that Jim Carrey almost retired and is probably going to retire in the near future, so they kind of have to start setting up future villains that aren’t Eggman soon.

Shadow is also likely to get his own spin off and Shadow’s own spin off game provides a story to loosely adapt.

Sonic x Shadow Generations is also going to release in the lead up to the movie to capitalise off the hype and it also heavily features Black Doom, which could be a way for SEGA to get people talking about him again in the lead up to Sonic Movie 3.

I don’t think he is going to be the villain of Sonic Movie 3, at best I can see him appear in a flashback to Shadow’s early days or at the end of the film, potentially a mid credit scene or a scene that happens as the film is wrapping up before credits.

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Also Fowler work on Shadow video game.

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Yeah, that also caught my attention too, except I thought they were only referencing Shadow

u/Fit-Rip-4550 avatar

What, 1974. That means Knuckles takes place in 2024.

u/ProfreshionalOcto avatar

Yeah, the Sonic Movieverse follows our timeline pretty well. Which is a nice way of excusing all the references in Sonic 1 that will not age too well after 20 years

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u/scrybesilver avatar

That reminds me; we don't actually know how long after Sonic 2 this show takes place. Because movie 2 happened in 2020/2021, and unless Knuckles takes like three years after movie 2, technically that means the alien wouldn't have been there at the same time as Project Shadow. Sorry to be pedantic, maybe it was meant more as a meta easter egg instead of an in-universe one.'

Either way though, good catch. I was wondering if that 1974 date meant anything, and this seems like a great guess.

u/Fit-Rip-4550 avatar

Assuming it happened 50 gears in 1974, this implies that Knuckles takes place in 2024—which fits since there is a Meta Quest 3, released in 2023.

u/scrybesilver avatar

Perhaps, the Meta Quest 3 is a good catch, but I kind of find it unlikely that Knuckles takes place in 2024? The first episode establishes that the reason the Wachowskis want to fix up their house is because there's a giant hole in the living room (which Knuckles himself made). So it feels really unlikely to me that they haven't been able to fix that hole in like, 3 years, simply because Knuckles keeps chasing them away.

Maybe it was a genuine mistake on the part of the writers, who wanted to put in the "50 years ago" easter egg as a nod to a Project Shadow/Black Arms, but forgot that story doesn't actually take place in 2024.

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I get the feeling this was an oversight, but I don't remember if the first movie ever states the year, or if we're all just assuming it was 2020 because that's when it released (which would more likely make it set in 2019, because it was delayed into 2020 for the redesign)

There's less than a year between movie 1 and 2, and Knuckles doesn't make a time gap apparent. I can't remember at the moment, but doesn't the G.U.N soldier lady say the black site info related to (Gerald) Robotnik is "over" 50 years old? I might be mixing it up with Maddie's mention about how long Tom's family has been serving as police in Green Hills though. If it was "over" 50 years, the writers can keep that true by making it the start date of Project Shadow, which begins some time before Shadow himself is crested. In that case,  perhaps the 1974 bowling tournament thing could be Shadow landing on Earth after being jettisoned from ARK (assuming ARK even exists in this universe. Alternatively, it could be him escaping from whatever ARK-equivalent military base they use instead)

To be honest though, I think the passage of time in these movies is going to be one of the details that's most overlooked by the writers, because Sonic and his friends would quickly age out of their iconic designs. Assuming Sonic was 13-14 in the first movie, he'd be like 18 now if real time between movies applied. I think dropping the 1974 date was just a fun way for them to indirectly mention "50 years" again 

It wouldn't bother me at all if that's the case, but I've seen these movies way too many times to not at least try coming up with excuses for things like this lol 

u/Fit-Rip-4550 avatar

Okay, perhaps Sonic 1 took place in 2022 and Sonic 2 took place in 2023.

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u/Middle_Conference_57 avatar

There’s no set time for the sonic the hedgehog movies, It’s all Comic-Book Time like The Simpsons.

u/ResortFamous301 avatar

Sort of. The second movie does establish eight months has passed, and I believe we do actually see the date on someone's phone.

u/scrybesilver avatar

Hmmm, I'm kind of inclined to disagree. It's been explicitly stated that there's a six month gap between movies 1 and 2, so clearly they are paying attention to how much time passes between events, at least. I also think general audiences will be more likely to be confused if the movies operated in the same Comic-Book Time as the games basically do.

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u/Kevin-W avatar

I noticed that too. It sounds like they're leading up to what they're either going to show or reference in the third movie.

u/ah-screw-it avatar

I'll be honest, I was just skipping through most of the last episode and didn't catch that scene. When did they talk about it in the show?

It's when the ESPN guys finally leave cover, when the action is over. They said another alien visited the 1974 bowling championship, but he wasn't red. THAT'S SHADOW YOOOOO.

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It's right at the end.

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Okay. Just finished watching. I'm going to spoil all over this comment. Some thoughts:

My only thought was "Dang. They must have run out of CGI budget." during that live-action reenactment of Knuckles' epic battle with Iblis(?) and unlocking the Flames of Disaster. Like, it was still really cool and well-done, but still. I couldn't help but think that.

(These are actually notes I took while I was watching it) I'm very intrigued by Willoughby's lines implying that she's been able to keep track of Knuckles and of the going-ons out in the galaxy. Which kind of implies... Has G.U.N. actually been around for much longer than they said they had in movie 2? It could definitely be seen as set-up for Project Shadow in movie 3. Very interesting....

OH FUCK. Well, they confirmed it. G.U.N. had been active under Ivo Eggman Robotnik himself when he still working for the government. So Commander Walters was kinda just flat-out lying during movie 2, wasn't he? They ABSOLUTELY did all that Project Shadow stuff, and they definitely knew aliens already existed. Does that mean they had access to ring portals this whole time?

.... I think Agents Mason and Willoughby are my favorite of the human characters in the show. I guess I can't help but be drawn to the unapologetic asshole villains who help with the worldbuilding of the Sonic universe. Props to Ellie Taylor for her acting in that speech to the Buyer, it was the thing that got me on board with those two.

I'm kinda wishing Pete had the same reasoning as Willoughby for betraying Wade and making a deal with the Agents, but... Oh well, I guess.

Wait no... NO THIS IS ACTUALLY SAD. Knuckles takes friends and loyalty so, so seriously, and he was genuinely hurt by Robotnik's betrayal, and now Wade's doing it to him?! NO WADE DON'T DO IT! NO!!!

Okay, cool. You're not getting on my shit list after all, Wade :)

.... Are they not going to give us an explanation of why the Agents have the portal rings? Okay. Okay. Cool.

Still an interesting choice for the writers to chose Pachacamac as the spiritual guide for Knuckles, but perhaps their reasoning is because they want to save Tikal for a different role? Either because she's secretly alive or because they're using her for a future SA1 story. We'll see. Either way I kinda miss Knuckles learning how to bowl in the first episode, that scene was fun.

So, no post-credit tease?

*throws phone and breaks skateboard in half*

That sure was An Experience. Can't say I didn't have fun, at least.

Amy and Rouge post-credit believers.... We put up a good fight. It was a honor to take this journey with you, regardless of the outcome. Now we move on to the next battle... the first movie 3 trailer....

u/Fit-Rip-4550 avatar

I think the implication is G.U.N. existed, but it was not called G.U.N. at the time when Robotnik was its lead scientist. That said, the ring portals could probably be explained by searching Sibera since Sonic dropped his set off the mountain.

Now that said, I still have my doubts on the ARK as it was in the games. I think it makes more sense for Shadow to have been created either terrestrially or on another planet noting the rings, with the former being the favored consideration.

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I swear I'll probably go to watch the movie, still with a string of hope to see Amy and Rouge even if they don't appear in the trailers. Thats how bad i wanna believe 💀. 

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They could defo pull off an Andrew and Tobey and appear in the movie and not the trailers, idk if that'd be the best idea since it woulda been a better idea to have them in the trailers for better marketing, altho maybe Shadow's appearance is good enough for that and Amy and Rouge wouldn't affect it as much as Shadow did.

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is still risky toh,meanwhile rouge and amy's fanbase isn't big as shadow,is still enough big to stirr some unhappiness if they aren't in the first trailer. But i admit,the idea of pulling an Andrew & Tobey move would hit me positively.

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the idea of pulling an Andrew & Tobey move would hit me positively.

Thass what I'm sayin' man! Now imagine that hype with the Sonic fans!

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Welcome to the fucking club you two. God I wish I could hug you guys... After everything that was happening in the fandom, knowing I'm not alone, even if we didn't get any shred of hope so far. I feel like I'm gonna cry and just wanna know I'm not alone...

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When was it revealed that Gerald Robotnik had been working under G.U.N. ? I know about this role in SA2 but I must of missed the mention of him in the show.

Well what's GUN's old name then? Any theories? Ideas?

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Honestly? This put a smile on my face.

If Adam Pally got on your nerves in 1 and 2, you best steer clear of this. It’s his show. Half the time, Knux is sitting in on Whipple-family drama.

But MAN, they really went all out creatively. Episode 4 is an entire mini musical, and there are so many moments of fun framing and editing. And hey, gotta love a show with a good sense of music!

Definitely going to upset those who wanted Rouge or more Movie-3 teases, but worth a watch ❤️

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I thought it was fun and charming, flawed, but entertaining enough for 6 short episodes, and had more than a few laughs. They definitely used a lot of the budget on the first 3 episodes, which causes a bit of a pacing issue, but I liked it overall as a little bonus to the movies 

One thing that did kinda bother me was that they couldn't seem to decide whether people were surprised to see Knuckles just walking around in the open or not. Sometimes they made excuses for it, other times no one cared, I sort of wish they'd just pick a lane

Also, that G.U.N guy in the first episode called the main surveillance area "Green Hills Zone" which I thought was a fun little thing

Was Knuckles the most amazing, fantastic, best show I've ever seen? No. But most shows aren't, and I think anyone who's looking for that here (or in the movies) is setting themselves up for disappointment. It was fun! Relax and have fun!

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I think it might be implied that after the events of Sonic 2, the existence of extraterrestrials living on Earth is common knowledge to a degree. I doubt G.U.N. could have covered up everything—it was too large of an event and someone had to have taken videos.

u/DoctorBeatMaker avatar

That and Sonic does TikTok/YouTube videos apparently. Online, I guess some skeptics might think he’s an AI of CG mascot though.

u/Fit-Rip-4550 avatar

His CGI is too good to be budget AI that is used for such videos.

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also the place they kept knuckles in episode 2 when wade had to save him, was called ICE CAP

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On episode 5 right now. Episode 4 barely had knuckles in it but I didn’t mind watching it because of that musical scene with Michael Bolton (was that monster we saw Iblis???) that was so great. First episode was the best so far. It’s funny, same humour as the movies, Knuckles is as deadpan as always.

Edit: Just finished all of if. I was hoping for more Knuckles but I found myself getting tired of seeing Wade all the time. It felt like knuckles was appearing even less than the first 3 episodes and I wonder if that was due to budgeting issues ? I was looking forward to the final episode because I was hoping the focus would be more on knuckles and his final fight against the mech wearing dude, but the focus was all on Wade’s bowling tournament. We barley got to see him fight. It was awesome though to see his new fire powers, that was so good. I still wonder if that was Iblis we saw in episode 4, and if that meant knuckles got his new powers from him? I just hope this means they are gonna involve Silver somehow. Honestly I totally agree with everyone this wasn’t really a knuckles show, but Wade’s show. (I still enjoyed it. I laughed a lot.)

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When I saw Iblis actually show up in the musical, my initial thought was that Knuckles killed him and absorbed his powers and that's how he got the Flames of Disaster powers. And I kid you not, I thought to myself "Is Knuckles the Princess Elise of this universe?" But I think the Flames of Disaster is supposed to be a power that Knuckles naturally has in this universe, which is interesting.

This definitely does have possible implications for changes if they decide to adapt elements of 06, Mephiles, or Silver. Still crossing my fingers for Silver to show up eventually...

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Lol yeah. But if he didn’t absorb or seal him somehow, wouldn’t Iblis rise up again? Knuckles may have defeated him for a time but he might come back, so maybe there is a chance for silver to appear. Also pretty insane to me that knuckles defeated Iblis by himself, but if he already had his fire powers then I’m sure he would have been able to take the heat. Idk, I hope they explain this more

i need silver back please i cant even watch the show i am just reading spoilers and your mere MENTION of silver has me hopeful

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Wait that was iblis I mean it makes sense but to me the creature resembled zavok more than iblis

silver need to show up later in a movie to warn them of the mecha sonic attacking in 3 years time and give sonic some heart medication so he doesnt die of a heart virus before the attack ;)

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They went way over the top with the silliness in regards to Wade's storyline. The first two Sonic movies had silliness to them, but this went way too far into campiness and absurdity. Wade's mom is cool, but his sister got really annoying. Yikes.

That said, All the scenes involving Knuckles, even when he is literally just hanging out and enjoying life, talking and interacting with Wade and his family were nice. Plenty of cute moments and fun moments.

In fact, I'd watch a whole show with just the Sonic cast not doing high-budget action/adventure stuff, but just hanging out and enjoying life.

u/Fit-Rip-4550 avatar

The Wachowskis, coming in 2025.

u/DoctorBeatMaker avatar

I’d watch it.

There’s plenty of fun antics Team Sonic can get into on a daily basis.

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I completely agree on the every day life moments. I dont know why, but watching Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles just walk around hanging out or watching TV with the Donut Lord and Pretzel Lady actually sounds very appealing.

the sister was a bit annoying but the over the top campiness and absurdity was the best part imo.

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Ya literally. Loved every single part of this show and characters apart from Wade’s sister and honestly Wade. Got tired of him and his goofiness. Like this show was pretty camp at times and I loved every bit of it until Wade would butt in. Maybe it’s also bc it didn’t feel like a Knuckles show bc of it being all about Wade but ya

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Honestly, I had a blast with the show. Yeah, it was a bit slow at times when it focused on Wade's family, but I felt it carried enough heart overall that I didn't mind it too much. Episode 4 was goddamn amazing, and Knuckles himself wasn't actually in it for 99% of it.

Also I did not expect an actual reference to Iblis, nor that he is apparently the problem of the echidnas in the movie universe? It's a good change. It's a ....good...change.

u/Joquillex avatar

Definitely leaning waaaay more towards kids. With that, I'm absolutely loving this so far. It's really entertaining and I love that Wade is getting more of the spotlight.

Right now I'm currently on episode 2.

im nearly 40 and LOVE it. it made me feel like a kid again.

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This is just Sonic 1 but with Knuckles and Wade instead of Sonic and Donut Lord. No problem with it but was fairly disappointed it didn’t go into the backstory of Knuckles’ tribe.

Still find it weird that both Knuckles’ tribe and Longclaw both got wiped out entirely on the same day and I wanted more hints to why. Maybe a bigger threat out there? Chaos???

Wade’s sister pissed me off. Overly obnoxious character. But the mom was a good character and I thought the villains worked well. I wish they explained more of why Kid Cudi’s character betrayed GUN though.

For a TV series I didn’t expect much but the fight scenes were good and I enjoyed myself for the price of free with a week trial to paramount+ so I’m not complaining at all. Hopefully this was the calm of silliness before the storm of seriousness that will be Sonic 3.

u/AccomplishedEye7752 avatar

Kinda odd that they made the finale Sonic 1 but more bowling themed.

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I am a huge fan of the Sonic movies. I think both of them are very entertaining and the 2nd is especially well done and honestly doesn’t get enough credit imo.

But Knuckles? Yea idk what happened here. This feels like it was made by an entirely different creative team who don’t have the slightest understanding why we like this series and this character or what even general audiences would want to see.

Starts out pretty good in Ep 1, gets a bit weaker in 2, starts going off the rails in 3. And then for the latter half of the show, for the majority of my time watching, all I could think was “How did this go so wrong? And why do they think we’d rather watch a bowling tournament over the TITULAR CHARACTER doing literally anything else?”

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Episode 1 and 2 definitely stand out as the ones that do the best at balancing Knuckles and Wade as duo protagonists, Ep.1 especially. Ep.4 is interesting as it features some pretty crucial stuff that happened to Knuckles in the past, except Knuckles isn't actually present for any of it, nor does he bring it up in any way afterwards so it just feels so, so weird.

Through I'll give them credit for the scene where it seemed like Wade was about to betray Knuckles. That scene actually made me so worried, and I was SO relieved when it turned out they were on the same page lol

u/ResortFamous301 avatar

Kind of was made by a different creative tea.m.

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That's how I thought as well. Had they just kept it with how episodes 1 and 2 did with good balance of Knuckles and Wade and Knuckles trying to adjust to their world, it would have been very entertainment, but boy did this really take nosedive starting with episode 3.

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I truly feel the same when going through it.

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I thought it was alright. But it honestly doesn't seem to be that important in the universe which i imagine is disappointing to some which is completely fair, but i think it's better that it's much smaller scale with not too much info so that this universe would require homework.

With that said, yeah i do think the final product could be better. The first two episodes are very fun but it starts to go downhill after that. The bowling tournament gets boring after a while.

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Why I love "More Wade and Less Knuckles"... MORE! REPOST

Opinion

https://youtu.be/fmiLljGgyew?si=g4GrRfSPtOw8zZ6m&t=485

In the above YouTube link, 3C Films said that Wade is an insignificant background character for the Sonic Universe.

Hot Take: I don't think so. As someone who has cops as a cousin, and an uncle, I actually disagree with him, and I am more than happy to die on that hill. Before, Wade was a dumbass who can't do shit without Tom's orders, something that would never fly in the law enforcement community. Before, I would not have wanted Wade to be in a leadership position, but now that he has evolved, through this series, I think he can now be a competent cop, and if Tom is gone, the Wade can be a good acting sheriff.

As a sheriff, or acting sheriff, Tom or Wade respectively, can use their powers in the law to compel the citizenry to assist them in the performance of their duties, aka a posse comitatus. Under normal posse circumstances, Tom as a Town Sheriff [even though he should be a town police chief, unless Green Hills happens to be a consolidated town-county] would lead the citizens to tackle a high amount of crime if necessary. https://leg.mt.gov/bills/mca/title_0070/chapter_0320/part_0210/section_0210/0070-0320-0210-0210.html

Pre-Knuckles Wade would've sucked lead at this part of the sheriff job, if he were to be appointed as acting sheriff like in the second movie. But now, I really want him to be the Undersheriff of Green Hills, not Deputy Sheriff. With the rank of Undersheriff being ranked higher than a Deputy Sheriff, but below the Sheriff. I want this cop to have more time to shine than anything, and the Knuckles series has answered MY prayers.

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Is this satire

This is me just telling my truth. As someone who has both an uncle and a cousin as cops in the Philippine National Police, I want wade to be the most competent officer possible. Pre Knuckles Wade, I would not want him to respond to my house when someone is trashing everything and shit. Post Knuckles Wade, I really want him to be the town's Undersheriff, meaning that they are the immediate superior of a Deputy Sheriff [aka Sheriff's Deputy], but an immediate subordinate to the Sheriff Sheriff. It's not that hard to understand, dude.

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Something I noticed about one of the lines I noticed in the final episode of Knuckles

When the final battle in Reno is happening, the two commentators talk about it being an unprecedented event, until one of them says something along the lines of, “Actually, there has been one other instance of an extraterrestrial showing up at a tournament, in 1974. Although I don’t believe he was red.” With 1974 being exactly 50 years ago, we all agree that this is in reference to Shadow, right? And it also implies that he at some point had been to Earth before being ejected from the Ark, or possibly wandered for a bit after being ejected, before being captured.

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More likely a reference to black doom. Shadow wouldn’t be an alien if they are staying true to his story he was created on earth….well on a space station next to earth but by a human scientist and organization. Black Doom showed up 50 years ago and provided DNA/helped with the design of shadow. 

So Black Doom shows up and helps create Shadow 50 years ago.

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Okay, finished the show yesterday, and personally... I liked it.

I understand the frustration and harumphing about the fact that Knuckles gets sidelined in his own show, but I didn't mind it that much, personally. When he was onscreen though, Idris Elba really made every moment count. Wade was enjoyable to watch, the villains were fun (if underdeveloped) and I surprisingly really liked Tom Howe's score for the whole thing.

Episodes 1 and 4 were my favorites: the first for how it really felt like Sonic 2.5 (thanks to Jeff Fowler), and the fourth for how deliciously unhinged the whole thing was.

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it kinda feels like Drake & Josh, which isn’t that surprising since Paramount owns Nickelodeon.

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Without spoilering: it was good, the flaws were there, not terrible but not amazing. There are very remarkable scenes , first episode is the best, hands down.  But is pretty obvious, the lacking of more Knuckles later on was due to budget shortage for cgi and animators, and they had to patch things up,which gives an horrible rushed feeling in the end. 

Honestly hope that the crew behind the show understands it, and if they wanna do, another spin-off series they'd go with an animated one, because is clear that keeping up such a cgi constantly on screen, is not viable.  Because this time, the show was nice but with flaws (doesn't make it  terrible at all thought, guess some people never saw a real ugly show to think this one sucks), but next time they could not be so lucky by taking this road,so i honestly hope that they focus on this criticism mostly. 

Some more spoiler infos: 

The scenes where Knuckles is in action are very cool and honestly i re-watched them more than once. While it doesn't have Super heavy implies to the franchise some things are said and they aren't little either. 

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Yeah, I kinda felt that they had budget issues so that’s my main theory for why Knuckles wasn’t much of the main character, I also feel like they might have spent too much on all the music that was featured. That money should have went more to the cgi team imo

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Yeah, hopefully they get this message, because at the end of the day the series wasn't bad, was nice too and i had my fun with it,but when you understand that many times Knuckles is missing due to cgi budget you feel a bit let down.  

It would be ideal if this series get treated as a sort of experiment, that didn't even went bad at all, because, is still a overall nice and entertaining series (we could have gotten a Knuckles version of velma's series i mean) , from paramount to know when to adjust things when it comes to future spinoffs, especially budget wise. 

Who knows, maybe it will help them to fo a "possible" second season more echidna centric.  After all, paramount did show they can learn from their mistake, so we can hope. 

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Pretty good show. Here’s some thoughts:

I really enjoyed the dynamic between Knuckles and Wade. I’m also wondering if Wade’s childlike behavior is due to his father’s abandonment. He enjoys bowling because of the good memories he had with his dad, so it’s like he never really grew up because he clung to his childhood. I love how Knux gave him a lesson, and then leaves LMAO. I actually thought it was better that he didn’t bail Wade out of every situation and they both got to shine when necessary. That jacket-stripping scene was WELL EARNED. I was REALLY hoping for a “Knuckles Rap” reference, especially with all the talk about music, and “finding your jam”. I’m pretty sure there’s an issue with that music because apparently the guy who made them claims SEGA didn’t pay him or whatever? But either way, I did like the music and how it was used. And the theme song? SHOOTING AT THE WALLS OF HEARTACHE, BANG BANG

How big is G.U.N. vs the Black Market company? The G.U.N. agents said they had to BUY off these people, which I thought was a little strange, considering one of them is actually government-military related and the other is… illegal? I might’ve missed this, but the black market people are never named. The CC referred to the secret villain as “The Buyer”, and he mentioned he’s an ex-employee, which I think will come back up in Sonic 3. I didn’t really like Cudi, but I did like the lady agent. Her motivation for the job seems well-warranted and her little speech really gave her that umpfh. She’s got Robotnik daughter vibes.

Episode 3 is probably my favorite. I’m not Jewish, but it was nice to see Knuckles and Wade’s mom compare the cultural traditions of the Echidna tribe and the Jewish. Especially with the progression in how Knuckles has been portrayed over the last few years ago, he’s really respectful and curious toward this information. I was just hoping he wouldn’t make some ill-humored joke about how he doesn’t understand Jewish people or the troubles of Earth people, but they handled this really well. And the spinning fight scene? Amazing!

TL;DR; The show starts off a little slow imo but picks up as each episode goes, and pays off in the end. Can’t wait to see this plan to expand the Sonic Universe :) 8/10

As someone who is Jewish it was nice seeing some form of representation finally. The line where Knuckles talks about his tribe being wiped out and Wades mom “he’s basically Jewish” had me dying

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I ain't got Paramount+, but I've got Kodi and it's past 3 EST. I live in PDT and I'm staying up late, gonna watch Knuckles on Kodi when the torrents come. But first, a quick Flash break (Ruffle).

I'll update this soon.

In the final episode, when you see the name of all of the bowling teams, how the fuck did they get away with Ball Busters?