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From Nate Eaton via his live a few minutes ago…. Nate talked directly to Melaniece’s attorney (Josh Gardner).

Melaniece did go home to Arizona yesterday. Josh Gardner, her attorney called Nate (they’ve known each other for 15+ years). Josh said Ian, Melaniece and Josh arrived in Boise on Monday afternoon. They anticipated testifying on Tuesday around 1pm but never was called to take the stand. Showed up Wednesday as well. When Wednesday (yesterday) wrapped up at 3:30, the prosecutor told Melaniece she COULD GO HOME. They told her she could be called to testify, she REMAINS under subpoena and they are waiting to hear from the prosecutors if she will be called back! She is NOT in contempt and she did nothing wrong. She won’t be there this week, but could show up again next week. Nate doesn’t know either way. The defense has NOT subpoenaed her as far as Nate knows. She is still not supposed to watch any testimony. Her watching the testimony was discussed yesterday and they were concerned. Apparently Ian said Melaniece only went online and read some of the headlines about Brandon’s testimony because she and Brandon are currently in a custody dispute. Nate doesn’t know if that was the reason they let Melaniece go home, but it could be (he is just speculating).

I have linked Nate Eaton’s YouTube live if you want to go back and listen to what he said. I did write down pretty much word for word what he said though.

I love how he gets so much insider info!

Nate if you see this, amazing job on all your reporting! Your work does not go unnoticed 🤗.

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u/AnxiousGazelle4610 avatar
AnxiousGazelle4610 •

So it’s a nothingburger. I wonder if the judge ruled she cannot testify because she broke the rules. I really wish she could testify. I think the kids deserve that much.

u/warrior033 avatar warrior033 •

Yah pretty much 😭. Although from working in the media field, I find it a bit suspicious when an attorney calls a reporter up out of the blue to ‘set the record straight’… We will probably never know the truth! I’m with you though, those kids along with Tammy and Charles deserve the truth.

u/Salty-Night5917 avatar
Salty-Night5917 •

I like Nate and he is a great reporter, he has a "connection" with the attorney as in church.

u/Swimming_Twist3781 avatar
Swimming_Twist3781 •

I trust what Nate says.

u/Salty-Night5917 avatar
Salty-Night5917 •

I trust Nate also. All I meant was he has connections with the attorney that outsiders are not privileged to have.

u/Miserable_Ad_2293 avatar
Miserable_Ad_2293 •

I feel like charges will finally be filed against her for her prior involvement and/or knowledge of the murders and attempted murder of her ex husband. If she’s not found in contempt and still didn’t testify on this matter, something is going on!

u/deadhead712 avatar deadhead712 •

I really hope so!

u/DLoIsHere avatar
DLoIsHere •

If the judge made that finding, she would have been released from the subpoena, which is reportedly not the case.

u/Due_Will_2204 avatar
Due_Will_2204 •

That's what I think. Especially listening to and reading about Brandon. I wonder if she's going to testify for the defense. She, MG and Zulema need to be held accountable.

u/mamascott98 avatar
mamascott98 •

I read in my Facebook group that she was not allowed to testify because she broke one of the biggest main rules she was given before testifying. They also questioned her new husband (Ian) to see if he broke the rules & it was ruled that he did not break the rules & he could testify. I mean they haven’t been married that long so I doubt he would be trusted enough so soon w/any information or details about their bizarre & dangerous lifestyle of his new brides family.

u/Violet0825 avatar
Violet0825 •

Lori Hellis tweeted that it’s possible Melani is looking at conspiracy charges and the state can’t put her on the stand if it may incriminate her. I’m not sure why they would just be figuring that out, though… ? 🤔

u/Miserable_Ad_2293 avatar
Miserable_Ad_2293 •

I’m glad Lori addressed this. It’s the only thing that makes sense re: Melani not testifying if indeed she’s not in contempt. I made a comment on Wednesday about why Melani’s testimony on this matter is “tricky”. Fingers crossed LE and Prosecutors FINALLY address Melani! The wheels of justice DO turn slowly.

And what Atty calls the media. Melani needs to be more concerned about her legal affairs opposed to public opinion. She probs wanted to do another interview. 🙄

u/Indiebr avatar Indiebr •

An attorney who figures their version of events is better than out of control online speculation

u/warrior033 avatar warrior033 •

I work on media and I found the person attorney call very suspicious. He wants to control the narrative! Just think he had to get Melaniece’s permission to speak on it, which means they probably crafted a statement of sorts. Idk maybe it’s innocent, but something is fishy IMO

u/Strange_Curve5551 avatar
Strange_Curve5551 •

If you work in Media, this should not be a shock. Of COURSE they want to control the narrative. That is LITERALLY his job.

u/thereisbeauty7 avatar thereisbeauty7 •

Sorry, I don’t understand how this is suspicious? I don’t work in media, so I’ll defer to your expertise, but I’d love to know the reasoning behind why you think this is suspicious. I feel like attorneys in high profile cases frequently speak to the media on behalf of their client when they need to do damage control, so I don’t understand how this would be any different.

u/thereisbeauty7 avatar thereisbeauty7 •

They’re probably not just figuring it out, but they probably had her on their witness list just in case things shook out differently and they might be able to get her to testify.

u/frodosdojo avatar
frodosdojo •

I hope so. I don't think she should be allowed to get away with attempting to kill Brandon.

u/stephannho avatar
stephannho •

That makes sense hey …. I wonder like you, why now

u/warrior033 avatar warrior033 •

When can I listen/watch what she said?

u/Strange_Curve5551 avatar
Strange_Curve5551 •

The link is above to Nate Eaton disusing.

Basically they expected to testify Tuesday, and did not. Wednesday Ian disclosed that Mealanice watched Brandon's testimony. And They did a motion on him and he just saw headlines did not watch or read anything. After he testified Wednesday the prosecution told her to go home but she is still under subpoena. Wednesday she went home, Thursday Ian did.

u/warrior033 avatar warrior033 •

That actually makes more sense! I mean she could please the 5th on the stand. I would think they would give her a deal though if she has real dirt on Lori and/or Chad. They are the big fish to capture!

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u/Flip_Flop_Puddin_Pop avatar
Flip_Flop_Puddin_Pop •

I want to know (as much as is possible - phone records, texts emails and the like) where she was and what she was up to in the weeks leading up to Brandon’s attempted murder, and after; when she moved to Rexburg and all the time spent with Lori and Chad and Alex there. If Mel Gibb’s (and to a lesser extent David Warwick’s) knowledge and behaviors are suspicious as hell, and they were there for (at least) one, albeit majorly significant, weekend, then WHAT ARE WE TO THINK ABOUT MELANI.

Sorry for yelling. But how the HELL did she not know Tylee was gone, gone and not just off at college with friends?! She knew JJ was gone. She absolutely knew Alex shot at Brandon, 100%. Who knew his new address, again? Ugh!! I wouldn’t be surprised if she was driving the Jeep.

Maybe Audrey trusted Lori and Chad, maybe Zulema trusted Lori and Chad. Maybe they didn’t understand; maybe they could only believe what they were told and trusted their leaders as cult members do. Maybe they just wanted to believe. I can give them benefit of the doubt to a certain extent; at least they feel terrible about it now. They weren’t with Lori and Chad the entire time. Even Zulema was in Arizona though she was dating Alex.

Melanie makes me truly sick. And Ian makes me so angry. He had the right instincts after her wedding night confession (manipulation at its finest, btw), then later he does a 180. Talk about wanting to believe! Melani is some kind of liar to convince him she didn’t know anything, about the kids or about Brandon. I hope someday, somehow, she has to convince a jury of her peers; I doubt they will be as easily swayed as her new husband was.

u/lonnielee3 avatar lonnielee3 •

I started this Melani concentric timeline on another post.

Melani’s timeline for 2 months

  • Oct 3, 2019 - LE in AZ interviews Melani and strongly hints they believe Alex tried to kill Brandon, her STBX husband

  • Oct 9, 2019 - Melani is in Missouri with Lori and Audrey

  • Oct 19, 2019 - Melani, having a hard time, is in HI with Lori and Audrey

  • Oct 24, 2019 (ca) Melani is in Rexburg with Lori and Audrey. Visited the Gilberts with Lori & Chad.

  • Oct 29-30, 2019 (ca) Melani spends the night with Zulema in AZ and then she and Alex drive a U Haul to Rexburg to her rented apt next door to Lori. [Melani claims ‘for her own reasons, not to be with Lori]

  • mid Nov 2019 - Melani and Alex try to retrieve her kids from their grandparents in Utah. Melani is arrested.

  • mid Nov 2019 - Melani signs up with a dating service and meets Ian

  • Mid Nov 2019 - Ian asks Chad’s permission to marry Melani

Reminder - LE were looking for JJ at the apt complex on Nov 26 and went to serve a search warrant on the 27th - Chad and Lori were gone.

  • Late Nov 2019 - Ian invites Melani to Thanksgiving dinner with his sister in AZ because she has no one to spend it with (I guess none of her relatives in Idaho or AZ count). Melani stays at Zulema’s house (Is Alex there at that time?)

  • Nov 29, 2019 - Zulema & Alex; Melani, Ian and his kids go to Las Vegas, Zulema and Alex get married

  • Nov 30, 2019 - Melani and Ian get married…Melani tells Ian ‘everything’

Looks to me like Melani threw her lot in with Lori, Chad and Alex in October but by the middle of November was looking for a way out.

u/curiocabinet avatar curiocabinet •

I know it's a rather minor point given all the craziness but ... did any of these people have real jobs? It's wild how much travel and movement there is.

u/lonnielee3 avatar lonnielee3 •

I wonder the same thing! There must be some sort of Code of Privacy that keeps such information from being reported. There is info about jobs of some of the men on the internet but who knows how accurate it is. Chad was a sexton in Utah and then, according to linkedin worked for a printing co in Idaho near Rexburg while having his own publishing company on the side. It’s been mentioned that Alex was a long distance truck driver, Warwick allegedly owns a construction company. Brandon had several companies, some “owned” with Melani but who knows. I always worked for the government and the entrepreneurial lifestyle is foreign to me. The women? Tammy had a job as a school librarian. Otherwise, who knows.

edit to add : How could I forget about Zulema. She seems to have a number of different jobs over the years.

u/dogdonthunt avatar dogdonthunt •

I recently read that Alex quit his job to move to Rexburg. Zulema testified that Lori told her to quit her job and move to Rexburg too- she could live off of Melani's divorce settlement. She refused.

u/Tranqup avatar
Tranqup •

Who needs a job, when you have a spouse with a large life insurance policy? Nate Eaton has said a source told him Melani got around $300K in her divorce settlement. If Alex hadn't been a screw up, she might have cashed in his policy for another $200K. I just hope her misdeeds catch up with her one day.

u/LillyLillyLilly1 avatar
LillyLillyLilly1 TRUSTED •

I'm shocked Brandon's insurance policy was only for $200K. They lived in a nice house and he drove a fancy car with 4? kids I think. And you only have $200K?

u/qthulu avatar qthulu •

Thank you! I think this may be worth it’s own post. I don’t know if I’ve seen an up to date timeline for just Melani. This really puts into perspective how in the thick of it she was.

u/LillyLillyLilly1 avatar
LillyLillyLilly1 TRUSTED •

Thank you! I think this may be worth it’s own post.

Yes! That would make it easier to find when something comes up that it needs to be revisited.

u/frodosdojo avatar
frodosdojo •

Ian didn't exactly invite her to Thanksgiving dinner. She showed up in his town and he felt compelled to invite her. I believe she fled the apartment when the cops showed up and that's what prompted her to follow after Ian.

u/Pretend_Guava_1730 avatar Pretend_Guava_1730 •

Ian is sort of fascinating too. He knew all this was going on and still chose to quicky marry her? What is wrong with these people?

u/Grazindonkey avatar
Grazindonkey •

All for the nookie👍.

u/frodosdojo avatar
frodosdojo •

He didn’t know what was going on until their wedding night. That’s when Melaniece spilled the beans and he subsequently decided to record them.

u/NanaLeonie avatar NanaLeonie •

In their interviews with Nate Eaton, Melani states she and Ian drove to Arizona, implying they were in the same car. Has that been disproved? Or did I infer incorrectly? Did Melani ride with Alex in the car Lori was gifting Colby instead?

u/frodosdojo avatar
frodosdojo •

I'm not sure and I could very well be wrong but I distinctly remember that her joining Ian for Thanksgiving was not planned and she just showed up in his parent's town at the time. Give me a little bit to research - I'm sure there was a thread here somewhere.

u/frodosdojo avatar
frodosdojo •

So in Ian's version in that same interview, he says he came down to see his parents for Thanksgiving. Then he says he invited Melani and she showed up. So it doesn't sound like they rode together to me. Here is the link to the transcript: https://socialgrep.com/search?query=ian%20pawlowski

u/agile_variability avatar
agile_variability •

The craziest thing to me is that in the midst of all her activities she decides to do online dating. I think, since the Brandon shooting failed, they might have been looking for the next meal ticket. I think Ian was in more danger than he realizes.

u/Strange_Curve5551 avatar
Strange_Curve5551 •

That is an AZ case that is still being investigated.

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u/Da-Aliya avatar Da-Aliya •

Exactly! I do not understand how Ian and the birth mother of his children (ex wife) can deal with Melaniece. What is it about the COX family that all these people succumb to? Is it their wealth or are they a well perfected scan clan? Either way, when a family has so many strange murders, I would think the police would take notice. I also find it interesting that right when all this broke in the news. Janice and Barry COX like almost overnight moved to St George Utah. The neighbors were surprised since they were “close” to the COX family and never heard from them again.

u/NanaLeonie avatar NanaLeonie •

👏 My thoughts on Melani’s involvement flip flop so much it’s a wonder I don’t have whiplash. I believe that at a minimum Melani knew in her heart that Alex shot at Brandon. And she kept being pals with him till he died. Now whether she flew out to Rexburg the last week of September and dropped off a note with Brandon’s new address, whether she was driving the jeep when Alex shot at Brandon or whether some unnamed co-conspirator was or was Alex coordinated enough to jump from the shooter’s position to the driver’s seat and take off — who knows. The Arizona LE haven’t found enough evidence to charge her with attempted murder. Maybe they quit looking when Alex died. Maybe they think she isn’t going to try again so it’s not worth the effort. Dunno. I do think it interesting that so very little about phone calls, texts, etc. among Melani, Lori, Alex and Chad have been released. As the old saying goes, ”Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” Or maybe she’s as innocent as she pretends.

u/MACKEREL_JACKSON avatar MACKEREL_JACKSON •

Well if Melanie’s attorney says she didn’t do anything wrong & there’s nothing going on then it must be true 🤣 nothing to see here folks!

u/Tranqup avatar
Tranqup •

LOL. Yes folks, Melani is a stand up person. She is pure as the driven snow. Ouch, my eyes hurt from rolling so hard.

u/sunnypineappleapple avatar
sunnypineappleapple •

Glad to hear this. No doubt they got wind of everyone badmouthing her and decided to set the record straight. I don't know if she has any critical evidence, but if she does, she needs to stop looking at freaking headlines and show up if asked.

u/Pretend_Guava_1730 avatar Pretend_Guava_1730 •

I hope Melaniece loses her parental rights.

u/BethBeau avatar
BethBeau •

Thank you for clarifying. It didn't make sense to me at the time and... well, I wondered lol

u/Comfortable_Baker_91 avatar Comfortable_Baker_91 •

No one I’ve seen has said anything about all these people rushing to the alter to avoid any chance of testifying against each other but all of them did! The Daybells, Alex and Zulema, both Melani/es

u/Strange_Curve5551 avatar
Strange_Curve5551 •

Melanie Gibb and David dated over a year before getting married. In Sept 2019 they were both divorced and dating they married in 2021. That is not "Running to the alter"

u/Comfortable_Baker_91 avatar Comfortable_Baker_91 •

They’re still married though even though he testified they don’t live together or talk much …

u/Strange_Curve5551 avatar
Strange_Curve5551 •

Irrelevant you said they ran to the alter.

u/Grazindonkey avatar
Grazindonkey •

Only dating a year could be considered running to the alter. That is pretty short time.

u/Da-Aliya avatar Da-Aliya •

Now, I think they are separated.

u/Strange_Curve5551 avatar
Strange_Curve5551 •

David said they live apparent for “family reasons” and Melanie was mad she had to come testify alone.

So dunno what that means.

Who cares🤷🏼‍♀️

u/Simple_Ecstatic avatar
Simple_Ecstatic •

By not testifying against Lori I suspect she hopes Lori won't testify against her. If she is eventually put on trial for conspiring to kill her now ex. I could see Lori testifies against her niece to get years knocked off her sentence if she's convicted.

u/mypinksunglasses avatar
mypinksunglasses •

Isn't it possible prosecution just wants her at the most impactful time in their case, and as the trial evolves they decided that was a little later? Or they want to double check everything they have with her to try to mitigate the defense's 900 overruled but time intensive objections?

u/xhaileym0rgann avatar
xhaileym0rgann •

I’m wondering if she’s gonna be like their last witness to really cement it in what Lori did

u/mypinksunglasses avatar
mypinksunglasses •

This is why they don't let the jury know certain things, the speculation gets wild lol

u/xhaileym0rgann avatar
xhaileym0rgann •

This is absolutely true lol. I do not envy this jury right now. Maybe that $10 they’re getting paid can go towards therapy… /s

u/LillyLillyLilly1 avatar
LillyLillyLilly1 TRUSTED •

Some courts offer free therapy to jurors who sit through horrendous cases like this. I wonder if Boise does?

u/Grazindonkey avatar
Grazindonkey •

What about the bailiffs, judge, attorneys, secretary, & anyone else who has to sit in the trail. Should they get counseling as well?

u/Strange_Curve5551 avatar
Strange_Curve5551 •

It is possible they will call her later.

But today they wanted a witness to do an overview of his entire time line of the case.

u/stephannho avatar
stephannho •

If she was released from the subpoena would thst have to occur in open court or not necessarily?

u/warrior033 avatar warrior033 •

Not necessarily. Nate said that to get released from a subpoena, you just have to get permission from the party who gave you the subpoena. If the prosecution and the defense gave her a subpoena, both would have to agree to release her. Idk if it has to be signed off by the judge tho 🤷‍♀️

u/stephannho avatar
stephannho •

Thank you!!!

u/GlitteringCattle2771 avatar
GlitteringCattle2771 •

The court had to excuse the jury and hear arguments about whether they could submit the cloud/text summary document - maybe the prosecution didn’t want to be arguing both so close together and risk having the judge get annoyed. Sounds like the cloud/text stuff is gonna have some important info, so they want to make sure they keep on Boyce’s good side

u/warrior033 avatar warrior033 •

I’m hoping for a bombshell today!! They haven’t talked at all about Lori’s cell data or tracking history! I really hope there is something that points her the scene. I think we have been over most the texts right?

u/GlitteringCattle2771 avatar
GlitteringCattle2771 •

They’ve talked about when and to whom texts were sent, but that was from the carrier data, which doesn’t save actual texts. If there’s any actual texts to read, the cloud is the most likely place for them

u/Strange_Curve5551 avatar
Strange_Curve5551 •

and yet we were not spared the loinfire texts BARF

u/Strange_Curve5551 avatar
Strange_Curve5551 •

They said Lori and Chad had their location data turned off like 5 thousand times.

u/warrior033 avatar warrior033 •

But maybe there is something on her iCloud account? The prosecution said this guy is one of their main witnesses. There has to be SOMETHING for them to wait til the end to bring him in…

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