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Piers Morgan’s Baby Reindeer interview with Fiona Harvey reeked of grubby exploitation

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And he paid her £250 for doing it.

u/Spid1 avatar

Is that it?! Surely she could have got a fair bit more

She got to re-victimize Richard. That’s all she wanted to do.

u/theClumsy1 avatar

Here's a better framing...if you were truly innocent of the behavior...why would you accept any payments to "right the story"?

Accepting payment to do an interview to restore your character is not a good look if she's "threatening to go to court" for defamation.

I mean if other people are gonna make millions of dollars watching me I’ll definitely want a piece of the pie.

Yea, there is no nobility in letting Piers Morgan make profit off of you. This whole situation is scummy but i dont begrudge people for profitting when all scumbags are participating

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u/ranaparvus avatar

Reminds me of Adele’s ex boyfriend wanting credit for inspiring her hit songs on her breakout third album. What a buffoon.

New spinoff Netflix series!

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u/Snarsnel avatar

It’s very clear from the interview that she’s not mentally sound and I’m sure Piers and his team know that

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Isn't the trick usually to pay nothing or very little for the interview but then pay thousands for media, like old videos and pictures they may show in brief segments or bumpers? Or is Piers even too cheap for that?

u/tfresca avatar

Yes that how it works in the US.

u/Psychedelic_Pixie avatar

Why is that?

So they can say they don't pay for interviews

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u/alextrainer1960 avatar
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Update: I saw a tweet from Fiona - an ugly misspelled <lol> tweet about Piers. Unless it was a prankster in her name. I'm waiting for Richard to confirm it is her.  Yes he and Netflix are lawyering up. And a through criminal search for the real Martha. It doesn't make sense Netflix would allow "This a true story" unless the essential facts were vetted. And Piers was a dick to the 2 women on the follow-up with "experts" on YT. About the show - I loved the writing and acting of the 4 main characters. It hit me at a deep emotional level tho I have no experience with stalking.

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Any source?

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Plot twist: she starts to stalk Piers

u/Ikantbeliveit avatar

And now we have a season 2.

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Oh pierce... U remaynd me of awee teddy i had. it was a rottenme lon but ur head looks xatcly like it

my sweet melonhead

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u/DeadWishUpon avatar

I wanted that too.

that would be a poetic, well-deserved twist honestly. He goes out of his way to be such an awful human being.

u/ThickTarget avatar

Alien vs Predator.

Plot twist 2: Back in the Habit - that’s what he’s trying to accomplish.

u/raysofdavies avatar

First stalker in history to give up day one

All he did was give her a glass of water.

🤣

This is what I’m 🤞for.

It honestly felt she already did, early on he asks her how old she was and she said “I’m __ , one year younger than you”

🙃 make way for season 2 like someone else said.

I was going to say that 😂😂

Baby Piersdeer

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Piers Morgan reeks of grubby exploitation.

u/SegaPlaystation64 avatar

That's sort of his brand.

u/Tripleberst avatar

Three years into Jerry Springer "I'm starting to think this guy exploits people"

u/way2lazy2care avatar

Jerry Springer at least respected his guests a little.

Especially the ones he had sex with.

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u/amitkoj avatar

Are you saying Piers is a piece of shit? Is that what you are implying that he is total garbage ?

If he’s not I can vouch for that ✋🏼

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Nothing screams "I'm totally innocent and absolutely sane" like taking the opportunity to declare to the world that the previously-unnamed actual person a psycho character is based on is you, just so you can get the attention.

Yes in a weird way she was claiming it wasn’t based on her, it was interesting in a Jerry Springer way.

She was changing the story so much. First she says she's gonna sue netflix because the show is based off her, then she says its not at all like her. Then she says she hasn't seen the show at all but goes on to describe the actress in detail and every plot point in the show. That's on top of her saying she hardly knew Gadd but in the next instance when Piers asks her about a tweet she says "it's a joke among friends".

What's more glaring for me is that she claims she barely knew him and only met him 5 or 6 times, yet she posted multiple times on her Facebook with intimate details about Gadd's father. I can't even fathom writing a personal letter to someone I barely knew.

u/SFWreddits avatar

She needs to donate her brain to science

send from iponee.

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"i'm suing for defamation because this character who looks nothing like me, sounds nothing like me, acts nothing like me and has a different name, was shown doing things i haven't done!"

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u/Traditional_Bad_4589 avatar

Hey everybody, this anonymous psycho is me! But also it’s not me and how dare you call me a psycho!

u/Unable-Figure19 avatar

best summation of the interview!

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People found proof it was her instantly. She couldn't exactly pretend like everything was fine

Pretty sad. If there was any chance of her recovering and getting back to a normal life, it went flying out the window once she got chased down and sent death threats by total strangers.

Based on her constantly changing story I find it hard to believe her death threats. From what I have seen she wasn't found... People thought it could be her, but then she basically admitted that it was her on Pierce Morgan.

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But that she barely knew him, they only talked a few times, and then she never paid attention to his theatre or the Netflix series. Eyeroll

You can't say it's based on you and what happened, if it never happened.

The other big note here is that both Netflix and Gad said they did their job in covering up who the series was based on, and they absolutely didn't do a FUCKING THING to change the "base" of her character. It's damn well the same person. Lol.

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💯

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u/ey3s0up avatar

I wish they’d not give this crazy woman a platform. She stalked, harassed and even sexually abused Gadd. She doesn’t deserve to have a voice.

This sort of thing can also lead to her finding another victim. It is exploitation of someone who shouldn’t be exploited because who knows what’s going to set her off again.

I legit think she walked away from the Piers interview with a "well, I think that went well" mentality.

I think she may be one of the most mentally unstable people I've seen given this much attention in quite some time, to be honest.

in a way... if someone made a show about YOU.. a breakup or smthng like that, it's pretty human to want to come out and give your part of the story. I'm watching this interview and i don't understand a single thing that she's saying. like nothing is a direct, or complete answer.

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u/pseudo_meat avatar

I think anyone should be able to defend themselves or tell their side of the story. Otherwise anyone can just make a Netflix series about you and say whatever they want. However we can dismiss her claims and find her to be guilty still of we want.

I agree

u/Love2Coach avatar

She is now getting stalked by society ...poetic justice 

u/Patient_Meaning_9645 avatar

We don’t know that she sexually abused him. That was portrayed in the series but the series isn’t a documentary, it’s a dramatization. I’ve noticed a lot of people treating the series like it’s all true which is partly Gadd and Netflix’s fault for calling it a true story, and also because Fiona is so obviously Martha. Gadd has since said he embellished and dramatized certain things, so we don’t know what actually happened and what didn’t, including SA.

u/amadeus2490 avatar

I wish they’d not give this crazy woman a platform

But it's entertaining and drives engagement!!

I wouldn't know about any of this shit if it wasn't for the headlines on this website. I come here to read about TV shows, but there's an awful lot of outrage bait gossip too.

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u/pwishall avatar

There's got to be some level of accountability for her. If she did indeed send him 41,000 emails, we can't just write that off as "oh she's just mentally ill". It seems the narrative is shifting to try to turn her into some sort of victim and that really shouldn't be happening. I guess more of the truth will come out though.

u/Moosje avatar

Yeah the public reaction to this is a joke. Of course it’s exploitation, most journalist interviews are, that’s the idea.

Piers was nowhere near as hard on her as he could have been. He didn’t show proof of her tweets to put her on the spot as a liar, he didn’t overly grill her as per his usual interviewing method and constantly de-escalated the situation when it was building up.

You forfeit your rights to brush things under the rug quiet when you stalk a man and show a pattern of malicious, aggressive insanity. And that’s without even talking about the possible SA and physical assault.

Yeah, it’s like the internet acting like the victim, the police, the attorney, the judge, the executioner. He filed for a lawsuit, justice handled it, he didn’t appeal. The end.

And for the story part, it really doesn’t matter how much of it it’s true. If it’s 50 or 40,000 emails, the point is how the real story made the writer feel and how it translated to media. Going after Netflix for that would be a disaster for our notion of what is a story inspired by true events.

u/Love2Coach avatar

40,000 emails is nuts lol...50 is just annoying lol

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u/Ok-fine-man avatar

She admitted to the Tweets to Piers. He didn't need to show her them.

u/Moosje avatar

No she admitted to a hand full here and there and glossed over the Facebook messages.

He could have shown evidence of the thousands of messages.

u/Ok-fine-man avatar

Is there evidence of 'thousands of messages'? Plus, I'm pretty sure there is only a handful of Tweets on X.

Edit: Getting downvotes but no one is yet to post a source

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u/PrismosPickleJar avatar

She waa convicted. She is a perpatrator and a criminal, is she mentally well, fuck no. But she is not by default a victim.

She never went to jail. That part was fictionalized along with other things. The show wasn't a dcumentary, but the fact that people believe everything was 100% true, shows that she has a point as crazy as she is..

u/PrismosPickleJar avatar

Forgive me , not for my innacuracies but for the fact im watching the Piers Morgan interview now.

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Although I agree that she is not the victim, I think it's unfair to say convicted criminal is never the victim.

Did he say that ?

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This 100 sends her over the edge.

What do you mean “we can’t write that off”? She was prosecuted in a lawsuit. There’s no “we” in this. “We” are the audience, not the police. I’m not saying she’s not a criminal, she is. But “we” don’t have a role in her accountability. That’s when the internet becomes a mob.

u/badger_flakes avatar

We must demand a Netflix sequel

Taht yes we must.

Sent ffrom my iPhone

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u/pwishall avatar

I meant we shouldn't collectively absolve her because of her purported mental illness, that's all.

Well said. Internet justice doesn’t know when enough is enough.

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When women commit acts of abuse, there is this weird form of refusal to acknowledge they could be accountable for what they did in some people.

The result is increasingly weird mental gymnastics to claim that mental illness or other contextual factors have all or most of the blame either out of the belief a woman can never be a threat or that only men have ill-intent.

She's definitely not doing a good job at the victim routine. I don't like Piers at all but he was on form with his questioning, she's a worse liar than Amber Heard, and that's saying something.

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u/dynesor avatar

This whole thing feels like a Black Mirror episode. Like I won’t be surprised if the ‘real life’ Harvey goes on to ‘murder’ someone over this and then Charlie Brooker pops out and goes ‘ha ha, got you! look what your voyeuerism caused!’

u/PaulFThumpkins avatar

Every Black Mirror ep should end with Charlie Brooker running into frame, panting like he's been running, and then say something like "Isn't the idea of having a thousand copies of you tortured for infinity years insane? Can you believe we did that again?!"

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You mean to tell me the guy that presided over hacking the phone of a murdered teenager would exploit someone? I am shocked I tell you, shocked.