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The 4 horsemen of losing fans

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u/Patrice_Oneals_Teeth avatar

Missing masvidal.

u/Empty_Ad_1542 avatar

Jorge might be the actual GOAT at losing fansĀ 

Careful, he might break your eye orbitals if he reads this.

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And Hill!

u/mryoloface avatar

Hill never had fans in the first place

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aah it do be true. I always found him so insanely overrated.

u/Fresh_Psychology_493 avatar

Convenient to say that after his first knockout loss šŸ˜‚

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u/bellynipples avatar

Bryce Mitchell has to make the list

oh God. what did Bryce do?

u/bellynipples avatar

Took the moron conspiracy theorist personality straight to the moon and waved back at Eddie bravo as he passed him.

ya know, that's not as bad as it could be tbh. Did a quick google and I see he's threatening to fight Ben Shapiro lmao.

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Izzy has always had a supportive fan base that doesn't mind his corny ass antics. That's just who he is. He never really switched up or did anything outrageous to make people hate him. His YT channel also does numbers so I don't think he belongs on this list

u/jfsoaig345 avatar

Yeah Izzy has just always been a controversial guy with his share of supporters and haters. Iā€™ve been a fan of his for a minute and that hasnā€™t really changed, and Iā€™m sure the same can be said for people who donā€™t like him.

The only people he lost are bandwagon fans after he lost the belt thatā€™s the case with pretty much any champ

u/traws06 avatar
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I disliked him mostly because he was so dominant I was afraid nobody would beat him. I still believe heā€™s one of the GOATs. Nobody can be as active as him fighting legit top contenders without dropping an occasional fight. The fact that he wasnā€™t ducking any of the top guys is one thing I respect the most.

I dislike him, but have a lot of respect for him as a fighter. I do think heā€™s kind of a child though as times. Holding a grudge against a toddler is kinda pathetic but at the time time it is kind of entertaining šŸ˜‚

at the time time it is kind of entertaining šŸ˜‚

Nah bro. Revenge emojiing a kid by dead-fishing over his dad's corpse just added to that legendary celebration. I wouldn't have Izzy any other way

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Lol well yes it absolutely is Izzy. Kinda immature and petty which makes is part of his charm.

Funny I appreciate him more than 90% of ppl in this sub even though I donā€™t like him. But honestly I like him more after a few losses simply because I root against fighters that are too dominant and I root for the underdogs often. I really like Usman yet was rooting against him against anyone but Jorge and Covington.

Izzy is genuine and I appreciate that. He isnā€™t doing WWE fake salesman stuff which far too many fighters are doing these days.

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He lost the dog loving fan base. Because of his dog LOVING

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u/BenShelZonah avatar

Hahaha. The slang is ironically emphasizing that itā€™s been a long time. I actually found UD from 2003 with it.

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I was a little Izzy sick at the beginning of his hype train but the Whittaker fight cemented me as a fan, even if I would pull for Sean, Whittaker their second time and Poatan their second time. Dude is GOOD, he was active and funny asf ngl. He can be weird but Imm weird in a different way, so I respect his shit. Also he was a dominant champ cannot hate on the legacy.

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Based take

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Heā€™s so good at striking and when heā€™s engaged in stand up itā€™s so amazing to watch. I will always be a fan of his fighting. The rest of him? Not so much but the fighting 100% always will be a fan of him and root for him when he steps in the octagon

I like Izzy for his skills, and if im being honest, i feel like when talking MMA, that's the only thing you should take into account. No personal bullshit.

Izzyā€™s the man. Every person on this sub was cheering him on when he knocked out Pereira. They just turned on him with the whole Strickland thing

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I never was a fan of Izzy but that was a monumental KO over Alex. It was absolutely badass to intentionally put himself in the most dangerous spot against the most dangerous striker on purpose just to set a big trap like that, and then KO him so hard that he didnt look like he was ever going to be normal again. That for me was one of the defining moments of MMA in the 2020s so far.Ā 

In retrospect, it really boosted both guys. Izzy finally beat his boogeyman, it elevated both guys names because their rivalry became the UFC rivalry of the time, and it has made Alex's current run of beating up the who's-who list at 205 (with really quick turnaround time on each fight) that much more impressive. Their rivalry couldn't have been written any better by a WWE booker - it absolutely has "put both guys over" and also gave a little rub to lesser characters like Strickland by making his win over Izzy a bigger deal for himself too. The two UFC fights between Izzy and Alex were money printers all around for a lot of people. Love both guys for that.

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Dude This sub canā€™t survive without shitting on Izzy.

The only thing weird I don't like about him is the dog stuff. Other critics seem to just be like homophobic

honestly the dog stuff to me seems very blown out of proportion. seems like oceanic humour just lost on the rest of the world

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My issue with Izzy is his inability to handle criticism and social media hate. He acts like the whole world is out to get him when he gets the slightest bit of pushback from fans or other fighters.

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I think he's pretty much said he needs to be that way and have a chip on his shoulder to keep himself motivated.

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Honestly I was a Izzy fan but if you follow him on social media you know heā€™s such an egotistical idiot. Regularly peddled conspiracies about vaccines and other things etc with such an arrogant confidence because his ego is inflated from being a UFC champ

u/Cum-Gun-5000 avatar

The thing with Izzy, and Bones, and to a lesser degree Colby, they've probably lost more fans than most other fighters even had to begin with - and still have more fans today than most other fighters in their weight class do.Ā 

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Yea he should be replaced with Strickland

I thought it was the whole dog thing that made him lose some fans?

u/basedjak_no228 avatar

That video was from like 10 years ago Iā€™m pretty sure, and Iā€™ve seen it floating around from well before the Strickland buildup, it just got popular again

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There's also Gane, another big king of losing fans

Also Despaigne with that miserable performance against Waldo Cortes-Acosta, and Yair bringing the white belt jitsu and getting subbed by Ortega after beating his face into hamburger meat the first round

u/Glum-Ad7651 avatar

Despaigne didn lose any fans. Most people know that he is a stand up guy who guarantees KO against fat men like Hunsucker and Porter.

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Big lol to these fickle ass fans who instantly turn against fighters after they lose a fight. Thatā€™s just part of the game.

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I was and AM his fan. I don't care if he's dogshit I want to see some highlights

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u/PrettyHappyPerson avatar

*losing r/ufc fans

i think this applies for everyone here except colby. his shitty ass performance against leon lost him some real fans im sure

u/AnimationDude9s avatar

I donā€™t know man. His fans have been proven to be incredibly stubborn in the face of evidence and downright edgelord behavior. Dude made fun of someoneā€™s dead dead and you still had Colby fans saying ā€œLeonā€™s dad was a Criminal. He deserves to get disrespectedā€. Ignoring how bringing someoneā€™s dead parent into a fight conference is BLATANTLY way over the line! The amount of Accountability, basic morality, and self awareness his fans lack is insane

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This sub devolved into a major circlejerk sub loooong ago.

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u/iroquoispliskinV avatar

This place is a bubble and gets predictably on and off hype trains on a fight by fight basis.

Jon Jones will still get a huge crowd and sell a ton of tickets, regardless of the Reddit mob.

u/AnimationDude9s avatar

Yeah, people need to realize nobody IRL gives a shit about what Reddit guys like us think. Itā€™s never gonna change the fact that Jon Jones will still have fans that donā€™t care that heā€™s got the mentality of an escaped Arkham asylum inmate. Heā€™s going to beat up and maybe even murder Stipe and then ride off with his money

Noo donā€™t hit em with the truth! The UFC hive of Reddit refuse to believe they donā€™t make up 100% of UFC fans lol

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I'd say colby lost pretty much everyone with the Leon's dad comment. The rest still have a pretty solid fan base

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I donā€™t only think it was the dad comment, if he had won a lot of people wouldā€™ve probably forgotten about it or moved on. Leon just made Colby look completely useless, and he didnā€™t even do it in an entertaining way. Just made Colby look like a boring prelim fighter, completely killed his stock.

Yep, he made himself Mr. Irrelevant with that piss poor performance.

Last ppv I bought was that one; Iā€™m still bitter.

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And the worst part is if he wants to escape that label heā€™s going to have to take on a legitimately big name and we all know he ainā€™t about that life anymore

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I already couldn't stand him that far comment went way too far I'm glad they guy got humbled. Only way he's winning fans is beating Ian Garry

u/Sweaty_Afternoon8065 avatar

Yeah I never liked Colby, never understood the hype either. It wasnā€™t even the trash talk which I didnā€™t like (didnā€™t mind it just never found it particularly funny) it was him dodging real contenders and playing these slimy games to avoid any risk at all costs and try to reap the rewards. Heā€™s 35 now, wonā€™t ever be champion and heā€™s ducking Ian Garry. I think everyoneā€™s sick of his games, skip the bullshit and fight.

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u/AnimationDude9s avatar

Ngl, I want Garry to win that would just for the sheer salt that would produce

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u/alpacinohairline avatar

He lost everyone when he lost and acted like he was robbed

Bro i completely forgot about that. shit was mad corny

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u/OskeeTurtle avatar

Idk hardcore trumpers are loyal Iā€™ll give them that

I didnā€™t mind the comment tbh, the performance on the other handā€¦

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Izzy still has a shit ton of fans, Masvidal should be up there for sure

u/WarlockEngineer avatar

Should have Ilia Topuria

u/CouncilOfReligion avatar

i donā€™t think he lost fans, just gained haters

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Topuria has Spain and Georgia backing him. I donā€™t think heā€™s lost many, but he definitely needs to get his shit together.

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u/limeonysnicket avatar

I would like a scientific study into why so many UFC fans are obsessed with hating fighters. Like Jesus Christ itā€™s absurd. The only one I can reasonably accept ā€œhatingā€ (even then, thatā€™s a strong term) is Jones, because of the domestic violence. Covington is a close second because of what he said about Leonā€™s father.

But really, hating Adesanya? Paddy Pimblett? Ian Garry?? Why spend so much energy honing in on their personal lives and quirks? Just enjoy the sport and who gives a shit what theyā€™re into outside of it.

u/Solid-Version avatar

Because the loudest section of mma fans are nitwits that canā€™t see past their primitive tribal instincts. Thatā€™s really all it is.

To like one fighter means that they absolutely have to hate another. Itā€™s a zero sum game to them. It enhances the experience for them. They tune in to see the fighter they hate lose more than the fighter they love win.

I dislike certain fighters for sure. But youā€™ll never see me obsess over them and their personal lives like you see on this sub.

It really is insufferable when this sub gets a hate boner for a fighter. Be it Izzy, Colby, Jones, Belal and now Topuria.

Itā€™s no different to chimpanzee flinging shit at something they deem a threat.

u/limeonysnicket avatar

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u/MuscularCheeseburger avatar

Itā€™s not just UFC fans itā€™s Reddit thatā€™s how they roll. Everything sucks and if you make them happy youā€™re an asshole for doing so

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Izzy tho?

u/limeonysnicket avatar

This subreddit is literally no manā€™s land when it comes to defending Izzy, so most people are gonna say something like ā€œheā€™s a dog rapist.ā€ Itā€™s really frustrating because I first started following the sub because I wanted to talk about the technical aspects of MMA and breakdown fights like r/boxing does, but instead itā€™s filled with a bunch of MMA Guru fanboys.

This sub is full of trash humans who don't actually appreciate martial arts. They seem to like the bandwagon meme shit, which isn't really what this sub was supposed to be about

u/limeonysnicket avatar

Truth. I think a big thing that we need is just moderators to approve posts. Would clean up the shit show big time.

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u/chrissysnose avatar

You know itā€™s fucked when MMA Guru is more well liked than Izzy. Bizarre. One guy makes a living from talking shit about fighters from the comfort of his basement whereas the other is a highly accomplished former champ.

u/limeonysnicket avatar

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u/chrissysnose avatar

It annoys me to no end seeing that clownā€™s content being promoted all over the sub. Heā€™s fucking unbearable, way more than peak ā€œIā€™ll leave you frozen like Elsaā€ Izzy.

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He's relatable to the MMA fans on here who look exactly like him

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It's so fucking dumb.

Colby is a racist bigot asshole. Jones...we all know that history.

Izzy though, what a fucking terrible excuse of a human right? Dude likes anime and says corny jokes. Literally kill him.

u/leon_alistair avatar

Which is funny. Izzy literally get along well with most if not all fighters tht know him personally. Even cool with Topuria and Pereira nowadays. Cant say the same with JJ and especially Colby.

u/limeonysnicket avatar

Exactly šŸ‘

u/OtakuDragonSlayer avatar

Whoa, whoa bro, hold up youā€™re not allowed to bring up positive points about Izzy thatā€™s against the rules here

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