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profets

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While my iPad Pro is my daily computer that gets quite a bit of use, I love my mini, especially for reading books and casual browsing. But I hate the lack of 120Hz and Face ID.

Though given those are still Pro model exclusives, I really don't have much interest in what an update will bring. I'm sure it'll be a bump in the A series SoC, and maybe some improvement to the display, but I wish at least something from the Pro would trickle down (like they do with the iPhones). Though knowing the Air was just updated and did not get Face ID or Promotion I doubt anything exciting will happen to the mini.
 

iAppleOrchard

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They better put an M chip in it, or I will not be buying it.

Also portrait camera pleaseeee

iPad mini is the best iPad, and I do not want to upgrade to something any bigger.
 
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Remy149

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IPad mini is quite popular. Especially in retail as a handheld POS system. They won't drop it.
Exactly it’s very popular in a lot of business sectors but that rarely in situations that call for frequent spec boosts.
 

turbineseaplane

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The iPad mini hasn't been the "cheap iPad" since 2019...

Except that screen

If one goes to Best Buy or an Apple Store and roams around trying all the different Apple devices, the iPad Mini 6 screen comes off as the worst screen they currently sell on a new product.

It's really really disappointing, especially since they hiked the base price 25% from the iPad mini 5
 

RoadWarrior56

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I predict that the iPad Mini 7 will ship with an A18 chip. Due to the long time periods between releases, Apple tends to skip several generations of chips and put the latest possible processor in each release. When I went from the Mini 4 to the Mini 5, the processor went from the A8 to the A12, and the performance was like night and day between them. And the Mini 6 jumped from A12 to A15, 3 generations in 2.5 years.

However, I do not expect to ever see a M-series processor in the iPad Mini's. I suspect the small size of the device, battery life issues and the thermals involved, made the A-series chips more appropriate for the Mini.
 

RoadWarrior56

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Except that screen

If one goes to Best Buy or an Apple Store and roams around trying all the different Apple devices, the iPad Mini 6 screen comes off as the worst screen they currently sell on a new product.

It's really really disappointing, especially since they hiked the base price 25% from the iPad mini 5
I agree, the Mini 6 screen is really bad. That is why I never bought one.
 

ignatius345

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Weird. To me it's a perfect size, but I guess the Mini just doesn't sell that much compared to the larger ones. I know Apple doesn't break out their sales figures, but I always assume the things that get updated the least are the products that sell the fewest units.

I'm still using a Mini 4 for my kid to watch TV on. It is still barely hanging on to being usable but I'm also not jazzed to spend $500 on a new one (or even $400 on a refurbished one). Kind of crazy to me that the larger 10.9" iPad is a full $150 cheaper, and I wish they'd make a small affordable one. Oh well.
 
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JSRinUK

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I have a mini 5 (which replaced my mini 2) but, as I feel I’m being steered towards bigger and larger phones, I’m not sure I’ll be in the market for a new mini in the future.

I’ve just purchased a refurb iPad Pro M1, which I’ll be using as my chair-side/bedside/garden device (a task which my mini 5 has served admirably). A family member has their eyes on my mini 5 (currently using my old mini 2), but I’m not sure I’m ready to let it go.

I’m conflicted a bit here.
 

geogecko

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iPad Mini Air and iPad Mini Pro please, if we have to wait another 6+ months.

Thought about going iPad Pro 11, and after checking price, was like, nope.

iPad Mini Air gets newest A series chip, same screen tech as current, maybe updated cameras.

iPad Mini Pro gets M2/3, Mini LED or OLED with 120Hz screen, maybe a few other pro features from big brothers.

iPad Mini Air starts at $499, iPad Mini Pro starts at $649.
 

Yebubbleman

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Just so long as there IS a next iPad mini, I'll be fine. With what had to be re-engineered just to make the current design work (moving the volume buttons to the top so that the 2nd Generation Apple Pencil could work with it), it wouldn't surprise me if this next one required some rethinking if Apple Pencil Pro and landscape cameras are going to be a part of it. I'm on the fence about whether or not the mini needs the landscape camera redesign in the way that all of the other iPads did.
 

Blackstick

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Drop the entry level ipad
They're not dropping the entry level option when school districts can buy them for $280 a unit. The Air would never get to that price point. It's frankly shocking that you can get an iPad for $334 on Amazon right now that accomplishes 95% of what most people use iPads for. Including enterprise and educational customers who buy these things by the pallet.

Apple already misses out on the EDU market because Dell can ship a Chromebook for $150. Our district is iPads K-3 and Chromebooks 4-12.
 

coachgq

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They're not dropping the entry level option when school districts can buy them for $280 a unit. The Air would never get to that price point. It's frankly shocking that you can get an iPad for $334 on Amazon right now that accomplishes 95% of what most people use iPads for. Including enterprise and educational customers who buy these things by the pallet.

Apple already misses out on the EDU market because Dell can ship a Chromebook for $150. Our district is iPads K-3 and Chromebooks 4-12.
I don’t disagree. But keep that device to institutional only.
 

alchemistmuffin

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?? Because Apple has launched new hardware before at their WWDC keynote speeches.

Hardware released at WWDC
  • 2003 Power Mac G5
  • 2004 Aluminum Cinema Displays
  • 2006 Mac Pro (intel)
  • 2008 iPhone 3G
  • 2009 iPhone 3GS
  • 2010 iPhone 4
  • 2012 MBpro 15”
  • 2013 Mac Pro (trash can)
  • 2017 HomePod and iMac Pro
  • 2019 Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR (and the revolutionary $1000 monitor stand!!!)
  • 2022 MBair M2 and MBpro M2 13”
  • 2023 Vpro and MBair 15” and Mac Studio & Pro with M2 Ultra
There is plenty of "PRO" in that history... but there's also plenty of non-pro.

M4 popping up in iPads is a massive departure from some perceived schedule of releases. The question to ask is that if there is NOT hardware announcements at WWDC, is anything else M4 really going to wait for October? I doubt it. In fact, my gut guess is that there WILL be some M4 stuff at WWDC followed by some (unprecedented) surprise event out in the middle of summer somewhere for some more... so that the October event will be more towards "finishing" a transition vs. starting it (in Macs).

Why? Apparently N3E process is CHEAPER and Apple loves extra profit wherever they can get it. Apparently M1-M3 have an "unfixable hack hole" that MAYBE M4 closes, something about AI-AI-AI, some competitive push by Qualcoms incoming PCs, etc.
I said “CONSUMER” product, not “Pro” products.

Although iPhones during first few years are exception but afterwards, no consumer products, just pro products aimed at professionals.
 
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JiveTurkey

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Waiting for an iPad mini to replace my iPhone 12 Pro Max. Just give me 1TB storage and the other upgrades are gravy.

I suspect millions of people now working from home have been holding off on iPhone upgrades, since they spend more time at home and no longer need their main device to fit in their pocket. Apple may be wary of cannibalizing new iPhone sales in the fall by releasing a new iPad mini before then.
 

HobeSoundDarryl

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Forgive my confusion, I count 10 "pro" products in that list and 8 consumer products... the latter- by my own judgement- being Cinema Display + 3 phones + HomePod + MBair M2 + MBair 15" + Mac Studio (since this was the apparent replacement for iMac 27" Mac tech guts). I could easily flip that Studio to "pro" too, making it 11 and 7. But 7 out of 19 total releases is still better than 1/3rd of WWDC product releases being for consumers.

Besides, my own guesses for WWDC would be Mac Pro and Mac Studio with M4 Ultra (even before there are PRO & MAX M4 releases) since they are apparently the most profitable Macs on a per-unit-sold basis and I believe maximizing profit above all else if the very first driver of Apple decision making these days. 💰💰💰

Flipping the Ultra to nearly first instead of dead last would also make those "the most powerful" Macs for the duration to M5 instead of only a few months ahead of a release of M5 MAX, since MAX tends to get close to and/or step ahead of Ultra in the next generation, released only a few months later in the past.

I also believe that M4 probably closed the "unfixable hardware hole" in M1-M3 and thus there is added incentive to switch everything ASAP vs. continuing to sell up to M3 stuff knowing that they are just adding to the eventual class action settlement total. It's one thing to sell something that can harm users while you do not know. But now that they DO know, it's a whole other thing to keep selling anyway. That always leads to class action settlements and the size of the settlement grows with each affected unit sold.

Whether there's anything to this wild conjecture or not, if M4 does- in fact- close that hole, if me- I'd be transitioning to M4 everything as fast as possible... which contributes to my guess at an unprecedented summer event for some Macs. We'll see. I haven't even seen any confirmation if M4 closes that hole yet. That might be an M5 thing.
 

Daytona 360

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Since the iPad Mini is only a little bigger than the iPhone Max, maybe Apple should just rename it the iPhone Mega? They might sell more of them that way.
Aspect ratio is a thing

Screenshot 2024-05-13 at 09.33.54.png
 

turbineseaplane

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I also believe that M4 probably closed the "unfixable hardware hole" in M1-M3 and thus there is added incentive to switch everything ASAP vs. continuing to sell up to M3 stuff knowing that they are just adding to the eventual class action settlement total.

..of course they don't care enough to stop selling M1-M3 stuff

Money > Everything in Tim Cooks Apple
 
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dlopan

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Common apple, get it together for once. Make a new mini, it's not that hard. Put a M3-4 in it, give a good screen. Any maybe just maybe make it affordable for once. (probably not that)
 

AlanMarron

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I am 💯 satisfied with my mini, however, I wish it had Face ID because my skin is very dry rendering touch login unusable.
 

HobeSoundDarryl

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..of course they don't care enough to stop selling M1-M3 stuff

Money > Everything in Tim Cooks Apple

Yes, but this is revenue vs. the eventual cash settlement cost. Cook also loves to minimize cost.

So yes, they will not interrupt the revenue flow... but to minimize that eventual (probably sizable) cost, I suspect they will be in a hurry to go M4 in everything if M4 closes that hole.
 
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