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Lue Elizondo’s statement from the Good Trouble Show

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Lue’s statement…

"WHEN PEOPLE FIRST INQUIRED ABOUT MY STORY, THE PENTAGON INITIALLY CONFIRMED MY ROLE IN AATIP AND THE FOCUS OF ITS EFFORTS. SHORTLY AFTER SECRETARY MATTIS LEFT THE DEPARTMENT, THE PENTAGON CHANGED ITS TUNE BY SAYING ALL MY EMAILS HAD BEEN DELETED- THE SAME EMAILS THAT WOULD SUBSTANTIATE NOT ONLY MY CLAIMS BUT MANY OF THOSE WHO WERE PART OF THE AATIP EFFORT, INCLUDING ONE OF ITS SPONSORS, THE LATE SENATOR HARRY REID."

"LATER, WHEN CONFRONTED WITH A FOIA REQUEST, THE PENTAGON DENIED AGAIN THE EXISTENCE OF ANY E-MAIL OR CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN ME AND OTHER SENIORS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT WHOM I WAS REGULARLY ENGAGED WITH UNTIL THE DAY I LEFT THE PENTAGON IN 2017. RECENTLY, ONE OF MY E-MAILS WAS LEAKED BY AN UNKNOWN PERSON ON REDDIT. THIS TIME, WHEN THE PENTAGON WAS CHALLENGED WITH THE EXISTENCE OF THE E-MAIL, IN THIS CASE, ONE THAT DESCRIBED THE AUTHORIZED TRANSFER OF AATIP LEADERSHIP RESPONSIBILITIES TO ANOTHER SENIOR MEMBER OF THE DEPARTMENT AND ENDORSED BY THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FRONT OFFICE, THEY WERE FORCED TO ADMIT THIS E-MAIL EXISTED AND WAS NOT DELETED AS THEY PREVIOUSLY CLAIMED. BEGRUDGINGLY, WHEN THE PENTAGON FINALLY DID RELEASE THE E-MAIL, PROVING MY ROLE AND PARTICIPATION IN AATIP, THE PENTAGON DECIDED TO REDACT THE MENTION OF AATIP, CITING FOIA EXEMPTIONS! BY THIS LOGIC, THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO REDACT THE NAME AARO AND ANY OTHER OFFICE AT THE PENTAGON."

"IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT THE PENTAGON'S MOUTHPIECE FOR THIS IS ONE INDIVIDUAL WITHIN THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE WHO HAS BEEN GIVEN SOLE AUTHORITY TO HANDLE ALL FOIA REQUESTS INVOLVING UPS, AARO, AATIP, AND SPECIFICALLY, ME. ALL THIS INFORMATION IS IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE AND CAN BE EASILY VERIFIED THANKS TO THE WORKS OF CERTAIN PRIVATE CITIZENS FIGHTING FOR INCREASED GOVERNMENT TRANSPARENCY THROUGH THE FOIA PROCESS. SIMPLY PUT, YOU AND CONGRESS CONTINUED TO BE LIED TO BY A FEW AT THE PENTAGON WHO PREFER TO VIEW YOU AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS "SHEEPLE". MAKE NO MISTAKE, THE PENTAGON PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE HAS A LONG HISTORY OF FEEDING MISINFORMATION TO CERTAIN QUESTIONABLE JOURNALISTS TO MISLEAD THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, AND THAT RELATIONSHIP IS ALIVE AND WELL TODAY AND IS IN FACT NOW LEGAL THROUGH A NEW AND DISTURBING POLICY OF "PERCEPTION MANAGEMENT"

"TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY, I WAS NOTIFIED YESTERDAY THAT THERE MAY BE A PERSONAL THREAT AGAINST MYSELF, AND SEVERAL OTHER WHISTLEBLOWERS FORMERLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE UP EFFORT FOR THE U.S. GOVERNMENT. AS SUCH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS PERFECTLY CLEAR TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE: I AM NOT PRONE TO ACCIDENTS! I AM NOT SUICIDAL! I AM NOT ABUSING DRUGS! I AM NOT ENGAGED IN ANY ILLICIT ACTIVITIES. IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ME OR MY FAMILY MEMBERS IN THE FUTURE, YOU WILL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED!" LUE ELIZONDO FORMER DIRECTOR PENTAGON'S ADVANCED AEROSPACE THREAT IDENTIFICATION PROGRAM

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Lue Elizondo’s statement from the Good Trouble Show

Lue’s statement…

"WHEN PEOPLE FIRST INQUIRED ABOUT MY STORY, THE PENTAGON INITIALLY CONFIRMED MY ROLE IN AATIP AND THE FOCUS OF ITS EFFORTS. SHORTLY AFTER SECRETARY MATTIS LEFT THE DEPARTMENT, THE PENTAGON CHANGED ITS TUNE BY SAYING ALL MY EMAILS HAD BEEN DELETED- THE SAME EMAILS THAT WOULD SUBSTANTIATE NOT ONLY MY CLAIMS BUT MANY OF THOSE WHO WERE PART OF THE AATIP EFFORT, INCLUDING ONE OF ITS SPONSORS, THE LATE SENATOR HARRY REID."

"LATER, WHEN CONFRONTED WITH A FOIA REQUEST, THE PENTAGON DENIED AGAIN THE EXISTENCE OF ANY E-MAIL OR CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN ME AND OTHER SENIORS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT WHOM I WAS REGULARLY ENGAGED WITH UNTIL THE DAY I LEFT THE PENTAGON IN 2017. RECENTLY, ONE OF MY E-MAILS WAS LEAKED BY AN UNKNOWN PERSON ON REDDIT. THIS TIME, WHEN THE PENTAGON WAS CHALLENGED WITH THE EXISTENCE OF THE E-MAIL, IN THIS CASE, ONE THAT DESCRIBED THE AUTHORIZED TRANSFER OF AATIP LEADERSHIP RESPONSIBILITIES TO ANOTHER SENIOR MEMBER OF THE DEPARTMENT AND ENDORSED BY THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FRONT OFFICE, THEY WERE FORCED TO ADMIT THIS E-MAIL EXISTED AND WAS NOT DELETED AS THEY PREVIOUSLY CLAIMED. BEGRUDGINGLY, WHEN THE PENTAGON FINALLY DID RELEASE THE E-MAIL, PROVING MY ROLE AND PARTICIPATION IN AATIP, THE PENTAGON DECIDED TO REDACT THE MENTION OF AATIP, CITING FOIA EXEMPTIONS! BY THIS LOGIC, THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO REDACT THE NAME AARO AND ANY OTHER OFFICE AT THE PENTAGON."

"IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT THE PENTAGON'S MOUTHPIECE FOR THIS IS ONE INDIVIDUAL WITHIN THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE WHO HAS BEEN GIVEN SOLE AUTHORITY TO HANDLE ALL FOIA REQUESTS INVOLVING UPS, AARO, AATIP, AND SPECIFICALLY, ME. ALL THIS INFORMATION IS IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE AND CAN BE EASILY VERIFIED THANKS TO THE WORKS OF CERTAIN PRIVATE CITIZENS FIGHTING FOR INCREASED GOVERNMENT TRANSPARENCY THROUGH THE FOIA PROCESS. SIMPLY PUT, YOU AND CONGRESS CONTINUED TO BE LIED TO BY A FEW AT THE PENTAGON WHO PREFER TO VIEW YOU AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS "SHEEPLE". MAKE NO MISTAKE, THE PENTAGON PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE HAS A LONG HISTORY OF FEEDING MISINFORMATION TO CERTAIN QUESTIONABLE JOURNALISTS TO MISLEAD THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, AND THAT RELATIONSHIP IS ALIVE AND WELL TODAY AND IS IN FACT NOW LEGAL THROUGH A NEW AND DISTURBING POLICY OF "PERCEPTION MANAGEMENT"

"TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY, I WAS NOTIFIED YESTERDAY THAT THERE MAY BE A PERSONAL THREAT AGAINST MYSELF, AND SEVERAL OTHER WHISTLEBLOWERS FORMERLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE UP EFFORT FOR THE U.S. GOVERNMENT. AS SUCH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS PERFECTLY CLEAR TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE: I AM NOT PRONE TO ACCIDENTS! I AM NOT SUICIDAL! I AM NOT ABUSING DRUGS! I AM NOT ENGAGED IN ANY ILLICIT ACTIVITIES. IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ME OR MY FAMILY MEMBERS IN THE FUTURE, YOU WILL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED!" LUE ELIZONDO FORMER DIRECTOR PENTAGON'S ADVANCED AEROSPACE THREAT IDENTIFICATION PROGRAM


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u/CrazyTitle1 avatar

I would say I’m encouraged that threats against whistleblowers is a red line that won’t be tolerated by congress, law enforcement, inspectors general, etc…. 

But then I remembered two active Boeing whistleblowers just consecutively died under bizarre circumstances and literally none of the entities I just listed seemed to care or even notice

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This is why protests are important. Time to do this in front of congress. We the people have the right to know the truth.

It’s insane that they would threaten to kill patriots, that still keep their oath to protect America and classified information, even when retaliated against by the very agencies they worked for.

This is “extremism” on the national security end.

If the UFO/UAP community actually networked with and supported other groups who routinely protest injustices it would get more than 30 people to show up to UFO/UAP protests. Just saying, if you want to protest and get attention, learn from those who know how to do it.

u/alienfistfight avatar

Great point. Who are these groups? Any recommendations?

u/TechnicoloMonochrome avatar

The French

Someone call the embassy

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u/Imaginary_You_585 avatar

UAW CodePink, any anti-war anti-military industrial complex group. Unions that represent flight personnel and/or vets would actually have political power already. Hell even healthcare. Health care workers have been unionizing massively since they were shafted during the pandemic. Our hospitals here in IL are currently under cyberattack(literally they have to use pen and paper, their computers are DOWN). It's in their interest to figure out what the hell the government has been doing with our money if not protecting us against airborne or cyber attacks.

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u/silver262107 avatar

If this necessitates making this a partisan topic, I feel this would be unwise. One of the positive aspects of the UAP discussion is that disclosure is supported by both Democrats and Republicans.

Yea. Strangely it seems it's bipartisan. Sure, some of House Intel leadership gatekeepers are republicans but when the house was run by democrats they had their own gatekeepers. The battle is apolitical. The DOD will use any method to split the movent. Don't fall for the partisan bots.

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u/alienfistfight avatar

Good point. It would be ideal to not have it be complicated with other issues.

Why would it. Just find like-minded individuals who want the same things you do. You will find believers throughout the spectrum. I know some folks on the right could never imagine working with liberals, socialists, progressives, and even anarchists such as myself, but we know how to organize and we love to make the government admit things they don't want to.

All that means is that we have experience. Use that experience. I'm sure there are aspects the center and right leaning folks can provide that folks like me can't. Lots of possibilities. I can disagree with someone on literally everything else but will still work with them on this topic. Check politics at the door, concentrate on this goal. Who knows, might even build a bridge or two while we're at it. Just cool humans looking for ayys.

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My nephew protests every week. For him he’s just hanging out with his friends.

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Haven't you heard that it's an election year? The masses, and by extension Congress, are in too preoccupied (read: programmed) of a partisan frenzy to protest any extrajudicial assassinations of American citizens by shadowy letter agencies and their contracted partners.

u/YourDogIsMyFriend avatar

Tomorrow SCOTUS will let us know if the president has absolute immunity. Which means a president will be legally allowed to put down a protest with deadly force if the president deems necessary. Luckily for us our current president isn’t a psychopathic nightmare dictator. Just sayin.

u/Mountain-Snow7858 avatar

No member of the government at any level should have just blanket immunity, that’s banana republic type nonsense. No one should be above the law but there is a two tiered justice system in this country where the rich and powerful can do as they please; insider trading, illegal drug use, illegal firearms etc and we little peasants will just be nailed to the wall for any reason whatsoever the police state can come up with. You get caught with a small amount of drugs for personal use? 25 years no questions asked but a politician or their family members get caught and they are let go to “get the help they need.”

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u/alienfistfight avatar

That’s horrifying

u/YourDogIsMyFriend avatar

Welcome to the last 8 years of youknowwho

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Yeah, and the protesting on several campuses is going so well... sigh... I'm with you, my friend, but it's seemingly the rare few who've experienced the ontological shock versus the majority that wants to stay inside the matrix/day to day routines, and will fight tooth and nail to keep oblivion a priority.

This topic has had me banned from my own ultra-evangelical family. They've called the cops on me several times , and I've had to explain that their emotional reactions to the subject matter (brief and succinct as it was) was the reason for their distress call. The police had to calm them down saying, "he was appears to be clear headed and articulate."

Some people are too invested in their own "coherent reality" filled with a horniness for genocide to even bat an eye on having their offspring arrested. It's worse then I'm letting on, but we can only consume so much content at a time, ay?

Your family called the cops on you over your belief in UFO/UAPs? I'm so sorry to hear man, that is a stressful life. It reminds me of when I became interested in studying Islam, with some of my family legitimately thinking I was redicalized. I remember a cousin I was very close with, at one of our family weddings saying "I just hope you are one of the good ones". It hurt to think that a belief or interest in something can turn you into the "Other" in people's minds, even those close to you. Hopefully you are doing good now, and dont let those close to you shut down your pursuit of knowledge!

Thank you for this. Sharing a bit of your journey goes a long way. I'm doing my best, and luckily, I'm blessed to work with some good people with big hearts that came to my aid. I'm sorry to hear that your journey has had its lows. I think it must be a sign of growth when we are tested by those close to us while we learn to form our own opinions. I believe in a deeper reality, but I'm seeking a path that doesn't divide us into "other," as you said, but rather mends. You don't have to agree with me. I guess i would call myself agnostic, but I also hold faith in a higher power, which is why this UAP/UFO topic fascinates me. I'm reminded of this video. by Seth Andrews' podcast the Thinking Atheist. Love and blessings, dear internet stranger.

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u/ConfidentCamp5248 avatar

That’s cause patriotism is a fraud to those ppl imo. They are parasites

u/gazow avatar

Protest will never work again, the same reason taxing the rich wont either.

the system is rigged and at this point its either crush or be crushed

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protesting ain't gonna do shit. they'll just ignore you and label you crazy

u/alienfistfight avatar

with that attitude we would be in the stone age. Who cares about mainstream media, they are a soon to die breed, and they know it.

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u/tr3b_test_pilot avatar

Add media to the list

Because Boeing impact impacts $$$ and the bottom line of most people in the government.

UFOs however…. Don’t. Just national security, the truth and our well being. Sounds like the story of the human race

It does impact $$$ if they have amazing tech they have kept hidden tho..

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u/Vegetable_Cell7005 avatar

I am often surprised as to what congress will actually tolerate. Ok.they tried to burry Mr. Elizondo's credentials. Now what? I keep hearing about what's going on behind the scenes while being told to wait for coming news. Meanwhile, the U.A.P. faction in congress is dwindling by the day. Gilabrand is misquoting facts about the Schumer/Rounds bill. People are losing touch with what is going on while being told to wait for evidence while the alleged people in the know are busy blocking and un-freinding people for saying things that make them mad. TICK TOCK PEOPLE. TICK TOCK.

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Actually they do whatever they want…

u/Smooth-Evidence-3970 avatar

remember JFK? LOL not far fetched at all man

u/Heavy_Contribution18 avatar

Do you think the second Boeing whistleblower was dosed with MRSA? Because that’s what everyone is implying when they say he was murdered and I’m just not sure about that

u/TPconnosieur avatar

If it was a trip out the window like James "I am a loyal fellow, I am a loyal fellow" Forrestal, it would be boring.

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u/4spoop67 avatar

Just reposting the quote with capitalization fixed for those of us who prefer not to listen to our internal reading voices shouting for four paragraphs

When people first inquired about my story, the Pentagon initially confirmed my role in AATIP and the focus of its efforts. Shortly after Secretary Mattis left the department, the Pentagon changed its tune by saying all my emails had been deleted - the same emails that would substantiate not only my claims but many of those who were part of the AATIP effort, including one of its sponsors, the late Senator Harry Reid.

Later, when confronted with a FOIA request, the Pentagon denied again the existence of any e-mail or correspondence between me and other seniors within the department whom I was regularly engaged with until the day I left the Pentagon in 2017. Recently, one of my emails was leaked by an unknown person on Reddit. This time, when the Pentagon was challenged with the existence of the e-mail, in this case, one that described the authorized transfer of AATIP leadership responsibilities to another senior member of the department and endorsed by the Secretary of Defense Front Office, they were forced to admit this e-mail existed and was not deleted as they previously claimed. Begrudgingly, when the Pentagon finally did release the e-mail, proving my role and participation in AATIP, the Pentagon decided to redact the mention of AATIP, citing FOIA exemptions! By this logic, they would also have to redact the name AARO and any other office at the Pentagon.

It should also be noted that the Pentagon's mouthpiece for this is one individual within the Public Affairs Office who has been given sole authority to handle all FOIA requests involving UPS, AARO, AATIP, and specifically, me. All this information is in the public sphere and can be easily verified thanks to the works of certain private citizens fighting for increased government transparency through the FOIA process. Simply put, you and Congress continued to be lied to by a few at the Pentagon who prefer to view you and the American people as 'sheeple'. Make no mistake, the Pentagon Public Affairs Office has a long history of feeding misinformation to certain questionable journalists to mislead the American public, and that relationship is alive and well today and is in fact now legal through a new and disturbing policy of 'perception management'.

To add insult to injury, I was notified yesterday that there may be a personal threat against myself and several other whistleblowers formerly associated with the UP effort for the U.S. government. As such, I would like to make this perfectly clear to the American people: I am not prone to accidents! I am not suicidal! I am not abusing drugs! I am not engaged in any illicit activities. If something happens to me or my family members in the future, you will know what happened!" - Lue Elizondo, former Director, Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program

u/UnidentifiedBlobject avatar

Thanks. I find it really hard to read all caps, was gonna do a conversion myself but thought I’d check. 

Lifesaver.

iPhone photo copy paste, what ya gonna do :)

u/4spoop67 avatar

hey no worries, i just have dainty eyeballs. appreciate you posting so i could find out about the content without watching the show

Yours is much more pleasant

Thanks, and curious what did you use? Android user here. App or online? It's good to know this for my future knowledge.

u/4spoop67 avatar

ChatGPT. For this kind of task that's hard to mess up I find it useful.

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/susan-gough-941a9652. SUSAN GOUGH. The individual in the Media dept he is referring to. Need a social media spread of her name tied to this.

u/Faulty1200 avatar

Thanks, this time my internal reading voice only shouted the words AATIP, FOIA, UPS, and AARO at me. lol!

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u/Grey_matter6969 avatar

This is a scandal that must be investigated by Congress in public hearings. Death threats to men like Grusch and Elizondo must NOT be tolerated. They should be aggressively investigated and ruthlessly prosecuted!!

The Pentagon/DOD is 100% the biggest reason this country is broke and in debt.

It's a rogue agency with zero oversight.

All the great social programs that could be done for the people can't be done because of this ONE rogue uncontrolled agency blowing through money.

Don't count on politicians coming down too hard on the Pentagon/ DOD or corporations involved.

The same corporations reaping the benefits and wealth of this rogue agency are the EXACT same corporations that donate massive money to politicians.

Not to mention all the bribes and payoffs we don't know about.

There's a reason the Pentagon has never passed an audit in it's history of existence and absolutely nothing has been done about it.

Why would politicians kill one of the Golden gooses ?

PROBABLY...

THE BIGGEST GOLDEN GOOSE !!

Might make a big show and a half assed attempt with the perception of trying to do something.

But nothing will come of it or change anything.

The Pentagon/DOD and corporations involved with it are the real unchecked and uncontrolled power in the government.

They're the ones who invisibly dictate what gets done and doesn't get done in this country.

Man this is a great comment. So fucking true.

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u/Practical-Archer-564 avatar

Kleptocratic oligarchs

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Whistleblowers have Deadmans Switches to protect themselves.

Harming, or even murder of whistleblowers and their family will lead to catastrophic disclosure. 'They' cannot bully and intimidate everyone into submission.

On this note, I agree: It's time for Congress to see this as a catalyst to push forward if this is the tactics 'they' are willing to take now.

u/OnceReturned avatar

Is there any real life example of a dead man's switch actually activating?

Excellent question. They happen in movies, but I can’t think of a single example of that actually happening. It would be pretty cool if Congress could just do their job, instead of wondering if Lue has some dead man’s switch. I’d assume he probably doesn’t.

u/HiddenWithChrist avatar

Still holding out that McAfee's is somewhere out there...

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this is your opinion, sadly this happens all the time, also epstein had no switch

Maybe his switch depended on others who lost their nerve.

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If that was true for all whistleblowers, Boeing would have been in deep shit by now after the passing of two whistleblowers.

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We’re going to learn something new about physics very soon… love/light, Lue 😉

u/BajaBlyat avatar

How's it going man that smashed guitar on ground drunkenly?

My name is Riley. Some people call me Maurice

coz you're the pompatus of love?

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Congress needs to do their fucking job

Half of them are. The other half is doing everything they can to distract from real issues and enrage the public into a civil war.

u/0outta7 avatar

Rep Luna, who everyone here praises for her UAP work, is going to be in NY tomorrow to publicly support Trump at trial.

I'm just sayin...

Trust me. Nothing concerns me more about this topic than how many authoritarian supporters are pushing the issues.

We have to compartmentalize. You can show up at the NY court to mock her tomorrow, then call her office the next day to thank her for her work on the UAP issue.

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I think is time not for the congress but for the citizens to do the job.

u/4score-7 avatar

And the first time us citizens have the full force and might of our very own armed forces turned back on us, we’ll go back home and drink Bud Light and watch the Super Bowl half time show.

Americans don’t have the capacity to take on the beast that exists inside our own borders.

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u/A_Real_Patriot99 avatar

Oh and then what? They go free and we get carbon copies of the people that were just removed and prosecuted?

u/Grey_matter6969 avatar

We have seen the Director of Intelligence and Counterintelligence at the DOE removed. Norquist was removed. There is movement towards accountability

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Congress is just as worthless

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u/JasonBored avatar

Holy shit. Interesting statement. Reading between the lines, it seems like Elizondo not only has the receipts (the email leak to reddit by an "unknown person"..perhaps could be a subtle hint to the gatekeepers and propaganda peddlers at the DOD that they might think his emails were deleted.. but clearly someone retained copies. Perhaps someone named Eue Lelizondo? And more could come out)

Also, "perception management" may be the internal DOD term for propaganda, which is illegal for them to spread to US citizens, journalists etc. Lue has tweeted out the exact statute that states its a crime to conduct an influence operation against American citizens. More gloves are off.

Also, drawing a direct line from when General Mattis left the Pentagon to when Lues troubles started, is an important point hes making. Its well known he was Mattis' main intel guy on the battlefield. Mattis is still respected across the political spectrum and in the military establishment, and Lue is implying Jim Mattis had/maybe still has his back.

And the bit about the threat to his safety.. speaks for itself.

Good for Mr. Elizondo for this. Seems like hes decided to come out of hibernation full throttle. Go get 'em Luis!

u/gogogadgetgun avatar

This seems like some 4D chess moves by Lue. "Someone" retained proof of his position and waited to leak it until after the DoD had flip flopped and tripled down against him. Even after that, the idiots highlighted their lies and broke the law again by redacting the part about AATIP. I have a feeling this was orchestrated well in advance given Lue's "3 years and 4 months" prediction.

u/JasonBored avatar

Totally agreed. And another thing I dont think anyone has picked up on yet. Lue referred to threats against "him and others whistleblowers involved with UAP issue". Say what? Since when did Lue or anyone confirm he has blown the whistle officially (and received the legal protections that come with)? I dont think that was a slip up. This man was one of the most accomplished counter intelligence guys in the military. He might have released a statement ALL IN CAPS to make it seem like he was speaking from the heart and grammar/spelling/context be damned.. but Im certain this was a sophisticated move.

So Lue Elizondo is a whistleblower, officially. Was he one of Gruschs 40? And speaking of that, his attorney Danny Sheehan made it a point on a podcast a couple weeks ago, rather he made the point 3 times that Grusch is technically not a whistleblower. He explained the difference given some procedural mumbo jumbo, and definitely was all praise for Dave Grusch but made sure the distinction was out there that he isnt technically a whistleblower. Odd thing to keep mentioning. Unless Sheehan has been intimately involved in a "technically a whistleblower" case as of late.

Lots to think about

u/bad---juju avatar

Lue is the first whistle blower in my eyes. He is the one that had the gimbal vids declassified and released to the public before leaving his position. This one moment for me is what opened my eyes to our new reality.

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u/UFSHOW avatar

Here’s a link to an IG post by Popular Mechanics. The write up references Lue Elizondo’s “self-appointed mission: Pentagon whistleblower”