Kynsalia:
I mean, I could agree that R1 titles, considering they’re permanent and the highest achievable reward, not be in 2s.
I guess i personally would still argue that gladiator should be kept out of 2s due to the fact the mount is also permanent.
I am one of the last people to want to remove rewards from pvp. If you are bored and doubt it, you could always look up my post history.
Moving on.
I think 2s is good to have, and is no doubt a gateway into the arena scene. It deserves attention and love. It’s just that the balance that would be required to keep it at least somewhat healthy not only doesn’t exist, but has never existed.
There is a lot more balance towards 3s. Which makes it more appealing, and more competitive. I’d even argue more fun, but that’s obviously subjective.
That’s primarily the reason for my stance on the removal of titles, or at the very least, gladiator and rank 1.
As someone who is a permanant duelist, this change doesn’t really effect me either, but i am kind of close enough to have to go through the similar struggles of knowing that it’s no longer viable to que anymore at the current time due to a specific comp on the ladder queing.
Honestly, if blizzard made a WoW dedicated arena game, that would be the best thing ever. Arena Tournament Realms would be cool. When they were around, i was too young and didn’t know much about them. It’s extremely sad to see it never made it very far or lasted very long.
This is something that’s really hard to juggle. I remember back in 2010 when i first started doing arena and the sole reason was just to get gear to do better in BGs. Then as i got the gear the next step was to get the elite set (cata at the time). Never got it, mop came around and i finally got 2.2 and got the red enchant, and later in wod 2.6 and got the tabard.
My point here is, there’s so many different goals and objectives for people to make them want to play. The 2.2 gear, 2.2 enchant, and 2.6 tabard all last forever and don’t require gladiator. Granted, 2600 in the last season of wod was only 113 points away from glad anyway…
If we had more people who did arena, counter queing wouldn’t be so free for some players. It’s just awful and painful to log on and try to play a game at 2500 mmr and have to stop queing if you want to get any higher because someone else is playing a literal better comp in this specific situation.
That’s really my beef with 2s and titles. Counter queing is too prevalent and needs to be addressed. How? I don’t know. People who play the right comp, or meta comp, will flock to 2s and never touch 3s. Killing both the fun of 2s, and making 3s a dead ladder.
