Pickleball is a combination of tennis, ping-pong, and badminton that is played on a court about one-third the size of a tennis court with a net that is 34 inches high at the center. Pickleball is played with a paddle and perforated ball with 26-32 holes (indoor) or 40 holes (outdoor).
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In pinned comment by kiwi labs paddle manufacturer said that USAP will have a exit velocity test meeting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws7u3LM6DA4
What does this mean for Gen3 paddles? If you bought one and they end-up getting retroactively banned, will you get an exchange or a refund?
I bought a gearbox pro control because I wanted to get a new paddle that lasts a long time (heard Gearbox are built like a tank?), only used for less than a week. D:
What are you guys going to do if your gen3 paddle gets banned from tournaments or ladders?
Is there a way to get an exchange or refund for a tournament approved paddle?
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in our softball league, after ASA updated bat standards, a good chunk of bats ended up falling out of compliance. it ended up being something like all bats with a particular ASA certification logo would be a no-go after a certain year, so we were still able to get a few seasons out of those bats
if USAP is smart, they'll do something similar, at least for the amateur game.
This makes sense
A phased approach makes sense. Especially given the life span of the paddles are about 3-6 months depending on how much you play. Gives buyers the ability to use their paddle being it becomes illegal.
120 days is a long time (this is a typical time frame for a card chargeback). So if it happens, you go through support, if you get pushback and they try to deny a refund you issue a chargeback and you let support know that if they send you a prepaid return label you will gladly send the non compliant paddle back.
For every tournament player, there are ten or more guys who like to go to open play and just bang away. If Gen3 paddles are recalled, those guys are going to gobble the existing ones up and you’ll probably profit selling your “illegally powerful paddle that will blast Ethel from the local park into next year when you body bag her”.
The average pickleball player is 35. Why are we pretending that we’re playing against women named Ethel?
there is a zero percent probability that anything currently in the hands of consumers would be retroactively deemed illegal by any body
the only one I found that got retroactively banned was crbn paddles (but that was on the manufacturer's mistake). where the models they sent for testing were not the same for production.
Is that correct? From what I recall It was the same model but a bad batch.
https://usapickleball.org/news/usa-pickleballs-statement-regarding-crbn-paddles/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Pickleball/comments/uf1yux/are_crbn_paddles_being_banned/i6qxsnb/
it wasn't a bad batch, it was production because USAP just bought from some paddles from retailer and tested it in a follow-up test
I was trying to be nice, but no, that’s not correct. There were QC issues, resulting in a large batch of CRBN paddles that were noncompliant as to surface roughness. The problem is that CRBN was not serializing at that time and thus couldn’t issue a limited recall.
I wonder if it will cover new certifications of paddles or will they pull certifications. This is for newly produced paddles and not paddles already made.1
But didn't that already happen with the carbon paddles a few years ago?
Carbon had to come out and basically say "we've updated the graphics on the paddle, if you have the old one, it's no longer legal"
CRBNgate? The paddle became illegal out of nowhere and almost tanked them as a company.
It means you could possibly have an illegal paddle overnight and not be able to use it in tournaments (and rec players refusing to play with you too). It's a shitty situation for players. There are so many paddles out now that you know would fail the exit velocity test. Trampoline/compressible materials weren't legal for a reason, but now manufacturers have found ways to circumvent that.
Nothing is getting retroactively banned. The toothpaste doesn't go back in the tube. They can't even get all the white paddles off the market.
I've said it multiple times and I'll say it again. 60 MPH is an unrealistic value. They shouldn't be using the methods they're using as they introduce more variables which make no sense. They're probably going to cap ball speed at 50 mph. Not only that but they'll kill all diversity and paddles.
This could be done in other ways. The last straw is that at the angles commonly played and speeds commonly played this metric has no effect.
There's no way they ban the Gen 3s. The amount of money involved wouldn't allow it
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