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Rogue One is the most gorgeous and beautifully made Star Wars film. When Star Wars gets it right, damn do they get it right

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Ah, the fabled and long lost Tik-Tok cut.

Someone uploaded a landscape oriented video to Tik Tok? Legend

u/pastrami_on_ass avatar

its a tik tok user, not too surprising

u/MagisterFlorus avatar

TikTok supports landscape videos, even

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OG Star Wars fan from the 70s. This film is my favorite Star Wars film, tied with Empire Strikes Back. I never get tired of watching it.

u/DroidOnPC avatar

I saw Rogue One in theatres multiple times I loved it so much.

I remember at the time this sub absolutely hated it lol.

Only Star Wars film I absolutely hated was The Last Jedi. It's the only SW film I only saw once in the theater. I still bought it, tried to watch it again and failed. Finally got through it again, but don't think I'll ever watch it again. So much potential squandered on abject stupidity.

u/Aangband avatar

The Last Jedi was so bad I still haven't seen episode 9.

Somehow...episode 9 is worse

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u/Marsdreamer avatar

Same.

And I've pretty much watched every single other star wars media to date, but TLJ was so bad it basically killed any desire I had to continue watching the sequels.

Shame, since TFA was actually decent, if not essentially a re-hash of ANH.

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u/Lieutenant_Horn avatar

It’s one of the best Star Wars comedies released by Disney. You’ll laugh at it for almost the entire movie.

Holy shit, I thought I was the only one. I'm a huge ST fan, and it was so bad, I completely lost interest, like a light switch. Who knew Star Wars kryptonite was a slow speed chase through the vastness of space?

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I disagree with the people saying 9 is worse. 9 has a way worse plot, but you can just turn off your brain and enjoy mindless action. It's like AotC in that.

8 is much more coherent when it comes to the plot, but it's boring and frustrating for the majority of the film, and mostly from a perspective outside the story. Which to me is the bigger sin. A movie can have amazing writing, but if I am not immersed or enjoying it, the movie is a failure.

With TRoS I'm not immersed, but I can still find fun in its silliness. With TLJ I am neither immersed nor enjoying it.

Hey there are dozens of us!

u/Omnipotent48 avatar

Don't bother watching it. It's the only time I watched a Star Wars movie and felt absolutely nothing. Just dead inside for 2 hours and 22 minutes.

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I disliked that movie so much that I saw it and episode 9 once in theaters each and haven’t even contemplated watching either one again. Even for free on Disney+ lol

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I'm of the opinion that 8 (Last Jedi) could have been saved with a better edit and some slight story modification.

I'm also of the opinion that 9 is unsavable.

Saw it in theaters, vomited afterwards and never saw it again.

Wonder what happened at LucasFilm there, first they give us TFA and R1 and then they follow up with TLJ and Solo.

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u/OhShitItsSeth avatar

I saw it in theaters in 2016 at I just remember liking it.

I saw it a few months later on a four-hour flight from Nashville to Los Angeles and for some odd reason, I loved it even more then. So much so that I also watched it on the flight back the following week.

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Yeah same! Each time since then it's gotten even better. And with the Andor series, I'm so into it.

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u/Wild-Berry-5269 avatar

This sub hated it?

I remember the constant fanwanking about "THAT VADER SCENE" !!!

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u/Gwynbleitt avatar

Empire dtrikes back is so perfect. Just rewatched it and compared to new hope its just so much better. Tho tbf all orginal trilogy is good

u/trying2bpartner avatar

I go back and forth on the OT of which one I like best. Some days I just can't get enough of A New Hope, some days I love Jedi Strikes Back, and some days Empire is the best of the bunch to me. Just speaks to how well all 3 were done (even Jedi) that they can each individually scratch that itch so well

(I will say that Endor and the Ewoks drags could have been done better, but that the Battle of Endor more than makes up for that)

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I dont mind ewok part cuz i love the scenery there but yeah i get it. Honestly i like jabba the hut part the most. But yeah most of all u can see the passion behind these movies

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Rogue One and A New Hope are now two halves of the same story for me

Like Terminator 1 & 2 and Alien and Aliens

It's impossible for me to view them separately

Agree. Very nice immediate prequel to the original trilogy.

Eesh, Aliens could not be more different than Alien.

Yeah, I was about to say that's not the best example.

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Right there with you

Star Wars OG here, too. I think it's the best Star Wars movie. It could never be my favorite as nothing could pass the personal relevance of Star Wars, but on it's own it is the best one.

Yay!

u/Sharp-Appearance-673 avatar

Exactly. Amazing what you get when the writing is coherent and considered.

u/ConversationIll637 avatar

That’s why I love Rogue One. It’s the only Star Wars film since the original trilogy that unites all fans and has little to no haters.

u/MadnessLLD avatar

That is exactly how I feel. I still might save empire is my favorite,.given the nostalgia, but rogue one is pretty easily the best film.

u/MeatTornado25 avatar

Empire is without a doubt a higher quality film.

Rogue One is a mess, but a beautiful mess.

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Same. ANH was the first movie I saw in the theater. Rogue One is easily the best Disney era Star Wars film/show. Second is Andor.

u/Tom-B292--S3 avatar

Man, R1 bores me so much. It's near the bottom of my list. The duality of a star wars fan and all that I guess.

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Best Star Wars movie ever. This is not up for debate.

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Grew up on the prequels, those are my top two as well

Damn its my favorite tied with ROTJ haha

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Gareth Edwards is set to direct the next Jurassic Park film... if he can redeem Jurassic Park in my eyes the same way he redeemed Star Wars for me, I will call that man St. Gareth the Redeemer.

He really knows how to shoot landscapes and scale, do big epic moments but also small personal narrative. I loved rouge one, and Godzilla and the creator as well. I’m really looking forward to his Jurassic park

I think you're forgetting that Rogue One was a mess originally and that's why they brought Tony Gilroy in to fix it. Tony was also the one to do Andor.

Also how the Creator was praised for visuals but derided for its story. The same with Godzilla. Even Rogue One, with all of its reshoots got stick for having weak characters.

Gareth Edwards really struggles with character

I think we saw a lot of those same issues with Neil Blomkamp, amazing visuals, especially in a sci fi setting, but not the best stories or characters. Though I really, really wanted to see Blomkamp's take on alien.

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I wanted to like the Creator so bad. It's a very pretty movie with a very mid dialogue, an underwhelming plot, and yet another tally on the board for John David Washington misses.

same, I really wanted to like it. Just fell apart the further it went, I gave up before it even ended.

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The man couldn't write his way out of a paper bag, but to his credit he'll shoot a beautiful looking film instead.

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u/Heavy-Wings avatar

I really want to see the original cut some day. A movie so bad that they brought in an entirely different director to do reshoots?

Apparently the scene where Cassian shoots the informant was added by Gilroy. That's insane. It completely defines the character and the tone of the movie, and wasn't even there originally.

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The Rogue One we all saw wasn't really his movie. Tony Gilroy was the real director of the cut we saw.

Gareth Edwards cut when?

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As much as some people hated The Creator, it’s undeniable that the cinematography and overall aesthetic were on point. Also hoping he brings that to Jurassic Park. Could make for a really awesome movie that is unique from the previous 6

wait, they're making more jurassic park films? damn

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His technical skills put others to shame, very similar to young James Cameron in that regard, doing things very cheap that look like they cost a fortune, simply because he knows what he’s doing; if nothing else, he will make a movie that looks 4x more expensive than it actually cost to make.

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Whoever made this edit messed with the colors. Looks a lot more saturated than the movie

This is "standard" for tiktok edits. They bring in the saturation to give it a hifi effect.

u/Eject_The_Warp_Core avatar

It just seems weird to me to praise the visuals and use an altered version to demonstrate

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Not to mention the obnoxious cuts, slo-mo, music, etc.

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because tiktokers are the worst possible content creators for the worst possible audience

doesn't matter, they are numerous and to some people that's all the most important aspect

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💯 I WISHED the movie looked like this

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u/h910 avatar

My favorite part about it is that it feels like a perfect blend between the original trilogy and the prequels. Also seeing all the scenery so familiar from the originals in way better quality is so satisfying.

Cinematographer Greig Fraser, who also did The Batman, Dune 1, and Zero Dark Thirty.

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He also did Dune part 2 as well as The Creator. The man is a master at shooting sci fi. He really brings the scale of large objects to the screen in a way that the audience feels their significance.

u/BearWrangler avatar

if i see his name attached to something, im more than likely going to try it

u/Heavy-Wings avatar

The only guy who knows how to use The Volume. Mandalorian Season 3 looks noticeably worse than the first two after his departure.

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u/Kal-El_Skywalker1998 avatar

Honestly Rogue One and Last Jedi are both absolute masterclasses of cinematography. Two of the most beautifully shot movies I've ever seen.

Came here to mention TLJ. I unabashedly hate the film because of its story but the cinematography, directing, editing... all phenomenal. I'd say TLJ is actually the most beautiful star wars movie we've received.

I actually wish RJ didn't make TLJ and instead made a different movie/trilogy/series because I think his style was phenomenal and the kinds of themes and stories he wanted to play with were really solid. Just... not great for the middle movie of the third trilogy in a franchise.

u/spaghettiAstar avatar

RJ just needed to make all three films and they probably would have been significantly better. Or even if he just made the final two.

The ST really got off on the wrong foot with TFA. It's a fun film, but a poor opening film for a trilogy. If RJ made them all, I think we would have been closer to what Lucas was thinking about. Rian Johnson worked so closely with the Story Group he moved to Skywalker Ranch and met with them pretty much daily. Meanwhile JJ used his own production company and wrote TROS with his friend in a coffee shop.

Pretty much only thing that RJ could take from the Lucas concepts was the Luke and Rey storyline, and he did. Meanwhile JJ tossed all that aside because he was too afraid to work with Luke.

I'm torn on that. Whether it was Lucas's vision or not, TLJ's insistence on throwing out as many established concepts and themes in favor of subverting expectations is what made the story bad imo. I think his vision of the whole trilogy or the second to would have maybe been better but the bar is kind of low when TLJ is only a bit better than TROS. That said, obviously JJ doing the whole thing wouldn't have been any better.

All that said, while I liked Daisy as Rey in TGA, I think what RJ did with her in TLJ is what made me like the character even more, so I'm looking forward to the new Rey film.

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I think it would’ve been less jarring if Episode 7 established “okay this is a new Star Wars, this isn’t George Lucas Star Wars, we’re gonna break some rules and tell a new story, hang on to your seats.”

Instead Episode 7 religiously remade the first movie and then Episode 8 aggressively deconstructs the entire series, which gives a huge case of tonal whiplash.

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TLJ's insistence on throwing out as many established concepts and themes in favor of subverting expectations is what made the story bad imo.

Like what? People say stuff like this, but inevitably they fall back to "Luke would never abandon people". Which isn't really a concept or a theme lol. So I'm curious of your perspective - what Star Wars themes were abandoned in TLJ?

Edit: If anything, TFA threw out more Star Wars than anything else. Han dumps Leia, is back to being a complete scoundrel (who cares about his growth). Luke is MIA. Empire is back. It's like ROTJ didn't happen.

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I can’t imagine that based off how bad TLJ was that him making all 3 films would result in anything other than a complete unmitigated disaster.

One person should have made or been in charge of the trilogy. Rian was clearly not up to the task based off the movie we did get out of him.

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I mean…fair points, for sure, but if I had to pick one of the three sequels as the one that comes the closest to capturing the spirit of the original trilogy or “what Star Wars is all about”, it would have to be TLJ in my opinion.

I’m not gonna say that it hit the mark, just that it came the closest.

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Really, how is it not TFA when TFA is basically ANH all over again?

I don’t recall saying “the movie that matches the plot” of the OT, I said the movie that comes the closest to capturing the spirit.

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u/not_a-replicant avatar

And better yet, they both absolutely back it up in terms of story and characters. Visuals are nothing without a good story and interesting characters. RO and TLJ have both in abundance.

u/Prestigious_Crab6256 avatar

You and I normally agree, although I think we have different appraisals of R1. I will say, however, that I really can’t agree that “visuals are nothing” especially in a primarily visual medium like film. Pure cinema enthusiasts might opine that visuals are everything really, especially how they’re captured and manipulated via editing and in-camera effects.

Obviously, Star Wars isn’t a purely cinematic franchise — it owes its lineage to a variety of other media that predate film by millennia and it is told in an conventional manner through narrative and characters. But… I do think it’d be interesting to see an experimental Star Wars film that captures the essence of the series through imagery alone.

I think it could be done! I don’t think it’d have much commercial success, though. Maybe an exercise for Visions?

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You bring up a lot of good points. I stand corrected. I agree that visuals alone can tell a story, but you have to intentional in that case. Good case studies are Soderbergh’s black and white version of Raiders with the Social Network score or Rian’s score only version of TLJ.

It may also interest you (if you didn’t already know) to know that a purely visual film was one of George’s longtime obsessions/goals. He has several interviews talking about that goal of telling a story purely visually. He was heavily influenced by a short Canadian film, 21-87 (which he included a reference to in ANH).

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Yes! I love Lipsett’s 21-87 (and Very Nice, Very Nice; haven’t seen his other stuff yet).

Always fascinating to think about Lucas’s early career and aspirations compared to where he ended up. I hope he’s gone back to his experimental roots and truly is making weird shorts for himself. I’d love to see them sometime.

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If only their writing were was as good.

Haha. I love the typo in this critique. 

Also, get ready for the down votes. (Not from me, but this is a circle jerk sub.)