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In the latest episode when Maestro forced Ruby to sing, she started singing a song before she switched to Carol of the Bells. At first I thought it was The Doctor's Theme or something since there were no lyrics (it was just sung on an "ooo") and it had that eerie sound, but that's not it. Anyone have any ideas?
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Oh now that you say that, I thought it was familiar but couldn’t place it. I’m gonna go back and see if I can figure it out.
Replayed those 10 seconds so many times and I can not for the life of me place it…it is so oddly familiar though.
The first note is the same as the Doctor’s theme from the Star Beast where he’s fiddling with his sonic and doing the holograms. Or at least sounds like the same singer.
The scene was giving my Little Mermaid vibes honestly. I tried Shazam. I have wracked my brain trying to figure it out and I’ve got nothing.
To me it sounded like this tune, starting at 2:05 in this video
https://youtu.be/K9UrU3A8Lw0?si=8vwVKri6FpX2G-tE
FYI it's called The Doctor's Theme:
https://youtu.be/7umktMyPQ0k?si=PrvpAI4R0DZ7CmEG
Edit - that said I've just rewatched the scene from the episode and she's definitely not singing the Doctor's Theme.
I always thought it was called "the bad wolf theme" for some reason. And yes, it's not that. Though very similar.
I am very familiar with it. In fact, it's probably my favorite thing out of all the Doctor Who soundtrack. It just doesn't age. Never loses its charm for me. You can't listen to it too much. But you can always come back.
When first watching the episode, I thought that was it, to the point where I cringed. "Not RTD reusing old themes to do the bad wolf thing again but different this time" I thought.
It's the same kind of eerie mystique fatalistic yet hopeful/promising motif, with the same instrumentation, i.e. a single female voice.
I love when they use the Cyberman theme as foreshadowing... like in The Pandorica Opens it plays in the background of an orchestra as they enter the room before they see the dead Cyberman.
I think you’re right! That’s why it was familiar! That episode has been so ingrained in my brain…subconscious memory I guess
I think it’s used in a few places in various episodes, but that’s the first example I found.
That's The Doctor's Theme. Variations of it have been used from Eccleston's and Tennant's era.
I mean…at that moment it’s just background music. But we’re now seeing characters react to that music. So bringing a background track from important moments into the foreground now…that could definitely be a thing
That. One of the unfinished plotlines from 10. Interesting...
I thought the exact same thing part of me thinks ruby has somthing to do with the time lords and everyone
Reminded me of the song sung by the siren in that Curse of the Black Spot episode
To me it sounded like this tune, starting at 2:05 in this video
https://youtu.be/K9UrU3A8Lw0?si=8vwVKri6FpX2G-tE
So, is this the Doctor’s mom’s theme? Or is it still considered the Doctor’s theme?
Sounded to me like the Doomsday theme when Rose and the tenth were separated.
Oh that could be too.
It sounds like haunted by evanescence
As much as I love that song, there are a few reasons I disagree. One, I’d like to think I’d have thought of that myself if it was the case. They’re one of my favorite bands and that was my favorite album. But more importantly, my second point, I think it would be something more unique to the show. So I’m guessing it’s another more subtle callback. And 3, I don’t know what the budget is like for the show exactly, but I can’t imagine it would be cheap to use The Beatles AND Evanescence in the same episode? I mean wouldn’t the Beatles alone be a little spendy for the rights? Though I really don’t know how all that works.
And, Carol of the Bells had different lyrics in this episode!
Carol of the Bells was originally a Ukrainian folk song https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_of_the_Bells
It's about Spring. Confused a lot of people when it was performed at Eurovision last year (UK hosting with Ukraine) and people were tweeting "isn't this a Christmas song??" Shame nobody seems to know the original, it's very pretty.
Part of the Ukrainian lyrics:
"asking the master to come out,
come here, oh come, master, it's time"
Hmm.
I don't think "master" is the most appropriate translation though in this specific context. The song refers to the head of a household.
If you look at the context of the song, there's a little swallow asking the master (of the farm) to come out and see that the ewes have given birth to lambs. Not sure what your "hmm" is about.
Edit: duh, I'm oblivious!!
ruby is the master confirmed!
What was different about it? I couldn't catch any differences
I don't remember what Ruby sang but it wasn't the same as the lyrics I've sang before
Did it?
In the original church steps scene, the song was sung in English.
Is it not the Gallifrey theme? It seems to crop up frequently, reminded me of Gallifrey for some reason.
No but they did play the Gallifrey theme briefly during Space Babies when the Doctor is leaning against the jukebox talking about Gallifrey.
genuinely appreciate seeing this, while watching it went ‘oh that’s this is gallifrey!!’ then immediately started to doubt myself haha.
Yeah it was great. There was another moment when they played one of the old themes but I can't remember now.
I thought it was Rose's theme at first... Please no
I thought it was the Bad Wolf theme. Unlike Saxon’s, closed captions didn’t identify it.
Are you mixing up Rose's Theme and The Doctor's Theme?
Rose's Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dllDmI5pkOo
The Doctor's Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7umktMyPQ0k
It’s funny, I always hear the doctor’s theme and think “Ood”.
Speaking of the Ood…s4 e3: Planet of the Ood. Approx 25:50 or so. The song of captivity.
Doctors theme, the best bit of TV music ever produced in my unimportant opinion. THERE IS NO FLAW IN SERIES ONE. It captured the emotion of the character, their mutual bond of adventure to escape an underlying sadness. Alien and yet so devastatingly human. I could go on all day
Idk if it's the scene you're talking about, but at one point the subtitles said (Saxon Theme). I assume it was referencing The Master
That's what I thought too! I googled it with no luck, but it did remind me of the Master's chords.
The subtitles are already corrected, now they say “Distorted Doctor Who theme” which seems much more plausible
Idk if it's the scene you're talking about, but at one point the subtitles said (Saxon Theme). I assume it was referencing The Master
Different scene. OP is talking about when Ruby is being held aloft by the musical notes (which btw was an awesome visual effect I’ve not seen talked about much) and Maestro makes her sing to eat her music.
She first starts vocalizing a strange melody that startles the Doctor and gives Maestro indigestion. It quickly transforms into Carol of the Bells and starts snowing again.
okay that does tell me there prob is yet another huge companion twist coming at teh end for her.
I believe it is the Bad Wolf theme, which was used on the show during Doctors 9 & 10s' runs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tJ7LGGpoZU
That is The Doctor's Theme
Ah, just looked up the actual soundtrack titles from 2006 and you are correct!
It’s the lullaby song i think from that episode a long time back. Where the girl has to sing a planet to sleep
To me it sounded like this tune, starting at 2:05 in this video
https://youtu.be/K9UrU3A8Lw0?si=8vwVKri6FpX2G-tE
I was trying to figure out if it was Clara’s theme
I was thinking it was roses theme
I also heard the Masters theme, the Saxon one.
The great song from a previous season.
Somewhere in this episode (maybe here?) I thought I heard the tune that Abigail sings in the Christmas special, A Christmas Carol?
I swear I have heard it before, but maybe its just Murray Gold composing like Murray Gold... that said I know I know it from somewhere
I also just made a different connection. When the Doctor is watching Ruby’s band perform…Susan Twist’s character asks them to play a specific song. Someone says they don’t take requests and they don’t know the song anyways even if they did. The song is Gaudete. It’s a Christmas song. Possible connection there? I haven’t listened to Gaudete so I don’t know if that’s what it is or not.