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Three quick questions

Our neighbors, who are in their 80’s, are contemplating about visiting their daughter, who is living in Madrid. They have never flown internationally, do not have any electronic devices (besides one iPhone, which they use as a phone, and for weather updates only), and are really challenged in planning a trip. They are physically and mentally in good condition, and have tons of questions, but I just do not have that time now, and have suggested using a travel agent. They only need help with their flights, as they can stay with their daughter once in Madrid.

However, am asking 3 questions on their behalf. Hopefully, someone can answer (in a general way) without doing any research.

1. If they use a travel agent, what is the approximate difference (if any) in cost compared to finding someone to book their trip online. (They think that they might find someone at their Senior Center.)

2. If the travel agent books the trip, do they still get mileage? (This is important to them!)

3. Is it less expensive to book a fully refundable ticket, or to buy unrefundable and purchase travel insurance?

Thank you for any assistance.

Edited: 15 May 2024, 14:57
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1. Re: Three quick questions

1) I think it can depend on the agent and the level of service they offer (limited phone support vs 24/7, passport/visa assistance, transportation to/from airports, etc). If they have AAA, they may want to contact/visit their local AAA office, as they often have travel services.

2) If they book it correctly using the travelers' frequent flyer numbers, then yes.

3) One thing to consider is that a fully refundable ticket isn't the same as travel insurance. With a refundable ticket, you can get your money back for the ticket. A good insurance plan can cover much more, including incidentals for lodging, medical treatment, lost/delayed luggage. The pricing of one versus another can vary.

When looking at insurance plans, it's important to understand what is covered and what isn't. Plans often only cover trip cancellation for things like medical events (for example if you're sick prior to travel) and may not cover cancellation because you don't want to travel any more or those dates are no longer convenient.

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2. Re: Three quick questions

Question one is impossible to answer. However, adding an agent between the provider (airline) and traveller isn't always the best option, as if things go wrong prior to departure they will have to deal with the agent rather than the airline.

'If the travel agent books the trip, do they still get mileage?' That depends on the ticket type booked. To ensure they earn miles or points they should book directly with the carrier.

'Is it less expensive to book a fully refundable ticket, or to buy unrefundable and purchase travel insurance?' Fully flexible tickets can be eyewateringly expensive. Depending on when they plan to travel, the cabin/class of service they'd like to book, their preferred carriers and the routing they choose they may find a less flexible ticket a better bargain.

As for travel insurance, buying it from an agent or airline is rarely recommended. http://www.insuremytrip.com is a good place to start as they can find a policy that suits their needs rather than an upsold policy that may not give the coverae they'd like.

If the travellers live in Tucson they'll need a positioning flight to PHX and travel on from there. Whether they choose BA from PHX to LHR (London Heathrow) and on to MAD or AA to ORD or JFK then an IB flight to MAD, taking an EU-based carrier will add a layer of protection under EU(EC) 261/2004 should things go amiss.

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3. Re: Three quick questions

1- Could be $2, could be $2000. There's no standard.

2- If they have a loyalty account with whoever they travel with they will

3- Generally refundable tickets are more expensive. No one knows what insurance they may buy or is available to them. Your question is not answerable.

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4. Re: Three quick questions

Thank you very much for the quick and thorough responses. They were all what I myself would think, but was not sure. There are always those, ifs, buts, maybes involved everywhere.

What a terrific suggestion about AAA! We've never used them for planning our travel for us, so completely forgot about them, but they do have a Travel Service Center in Tucson. These neighbors trust and like AAA, so they will be delighted, and will follow up with the suggestion. It made me a bit nervous for them to have someone book a trip for them at the Senior Center. Who knows how secure those computers are? I almost felt like I had to volunteer, but I would prefer not to get involved, and I just do not have the time.

Thank you again. I appreciate your help in this situation.

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5. Re: Three quick questions

Old school travel agents do not charge the traveler anything - they get their money from airlines, hotels, etc. The only catch is that, for example, they won't be able to book low-cost carriers like Southwest who don't participate in the system that the majors do. (Irrelevant for this trip, but FYI.)

Last time I looked, AAA wouldn't charge a fee to anyone, but if they do, it may be waived or reduced for members.

Also, for everything, check for AAA discounts (if they are members) and senior citizen discounts.

After booking, call the airlines / airports to see if they offer any services to help seniors get around, find connecting flights, etc.

Edited: 15 May 2024, 17:58
Tucson, Arizona
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6. Re: Three quick questions

Follow up.

There were some really great pointers presented here, and I made a list of them for these neighbors. They already have an appointment with AAA Travel on Monday morning. It's a relief to put them in safe hands, as they are very nice people, and I would hate this trip to be unpleasant for them. (They plan on going in September.)

Thank you again.

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7. Re: Three quick questions

Please don’t let them forget to look at medical insurance for their trip, chances are they do not have international coverage through Medicare, and sometimes pre-existing conditions are not covered unless purchased shortly after making the initial trip arrangements.,

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8. Re: Three quick questions

Buying a refundable ticket and buying travel insurance are really quite separate decisions. Whenever I look at the brochures that accompany travel insurance policies the biggest financial component is always the coverage of the cost of healthcare overseas. Coverage of cancellation costs is also usually in there, but the health care aspect is more important. However I have also been told that travel insurance can be very expensive for the elderly.

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9. Re: Three quick questions

At their age, they should look at evacuation insurance, in addition to health care coverage.

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10. Re: Three quick questions

Lots of good advice here on this thread, one thing I'd like to add though concerning insurance would be their age. Many insurers won't cover people over a certain age, so it would be best to consult a professional on this before securing coverage.

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