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Neighbours tree blocking sunlight - possible options

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    #62
    yagan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,754 ✭✭✭yagan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129047#Comment_122129047

    I thought as others have asserted was growth of any kind invading your property.

    Now anyone could plant a creeper that strangles an invasive tree, I've seen it done where someone planted some kind of a bind weed that strangled a neighbours over grown Leylandii.

    The fact that the neighbour took no interest in the death of their Leylandii means their only previous objection to its removal was either personal intransigence or obstinance. It was quiet funny as that neighbour actually asked of their neighbour that they previously wouldn't oblige for tips about how to stop bind weed growth. They had zero interest in actually tacking the weed themselves to save their Leylandii, and simply let it die. The neighbour took the opportunity to suggest a tidy no maintenance hedge, Leylandii removed for good, everyone wins.



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    #63
    Discodog
    Registered Users Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    I know of a case where a neighbour planted a line of Leylandii, that grew tall & totally blocked a sea view. The homeowner got written, sworn testimony that the lack of a view devalued their property by 80,000 but the homeowner couldn't do anything about it.

    Ireland needs to adopt the UK law.



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    #64
    magicbastarder
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    A bindweed strangling leylandii? I'm afraid you were told a tall tale.



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    #65
    Kaisr Sose
    Registered Users Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129095#Comment_122129095

    Thats interesting. All I know is what I posted. The neighbour while unhappy with accepting the cuttings has never gone legal about it.

    Personally, I think the neighbour having to take the cuttings from their hedge /trees is the natural order of things.



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    #66
    yagan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,754 ✭✭✭yagan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129214#Comment_122129214

    Some kind of crawler. I can see a few dead laylandii hedges in my area that are infested with some kind of creeper.

    The thing is those who plant laylandii do so for convenience so they've little interest in maintenance. It seems to be the trend where laylandii die they're replaced by fencing because people aren't interested in gardening, just privacy.



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    #67
    magicbastarder
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    i'm afraid you're mixing correlation and causation there.

    the same claim is often made about ivy, but this is from the RHS website on the topic;

    Ivy growing on trees is often thought to be a serious problem, endangering the health of even very large trees. However, its presence on the trunk is not damaging and where it grows into the crown this is usually only because the trees are already in decline or are diseased and slowly dying.

    https://www.rhs.org.uk/weeds/ivy-on-trees-ground-cover-weed



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    #68
    yagan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,754 ✭✭✭yagan


    Ivy give off a flower?



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    #69
    Discodog
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129330#Comment_122129330

    The problem with Ivy is it's very heavy & evergreen. Trees heavy covered in Ivy are at a greater risk of falling in high winds



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    #70
    Deub
    Registered Users Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Deub


    Did you talk to the wife?

    If they still refuse, I would do a trench close to the boundary and cut all the root. It will slow down the growth and a storm in the right direction would topple the tree on his side.



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    #71
    yagan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,754 ✭✭✭yagan


    Another option is simply pouring highly chlorinated water on your soil nearest the neighbouring laylandii roots, that can kill them too.



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    #72
    magicbastarder
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    Uh, I think suggesting weakening the tree so 'a storm in the right direction' to fell it in the direction you want is not exactly sound advice.



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    #73
    Dav010
    Registered Users Posts: 14,197 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129365#Comment_122129365

    You think the toxin used alters the fact that you could make yourself criminally liable?



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    #74
    Discodog
    Registered Users Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    In all these ideas about killing, if the neighbour took legal action, it would be down to them to prove that the tree was wilfully killed



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    #75
    yagan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,754 ✭✭✭yagan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129394#Comment_122129394

    Exactly. You could be laying down a toxin to kill something in your own garden.

    Besides I always find that people who use leylandii don't actually pay any attention to what happens outside, they grow them to block people looking in their windows. You can't see them, they can't see you.

    Any leylandii Ive seen die are usually always replaced by a no maintenance privacy fence . They don't care about what happens outdoors.



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    #76
    magicbastarder
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    Why are you talking about killing leylandii? it's not leylandii the OP is talking about.



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    #77
    standardg60
    Registered Users Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭standardg60


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129214#Comment_122129214

    Won't strangle it but I've certainly seen bindweed (ivy too) completely envelope leylandii blocking all the light to the foliage and killing sections of it, though whether it could kill an untrimmed tree is debatable.



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    #78
    yagan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,754 ✭✭✭yagan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129570#Comment_122129570

    It seems most experience people have with neighbours trees is leylandii.

    Going back to the op I'd have zero problem getting someone with a chainsaw to lop that third of the tree. It's taking the piss thinking a tree that encroaches that much isn't an issue.

    However I'd drop in next door first to tell them the overhanging third is about to be lopped and to ask them where they want the chopped portion as laid out in law.

    Then they may be motivated to co-operate rather than look at always lopsided tree.



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    #79
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,903 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Killing the tree talk, would be fun when the dying or dead tree happens to fall on your own house.

    Some of the 'solutions' on here are worthy of a Looney Tunes cartoon plot.



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    #80
    Dav010
    Registered Users Posts: 14,197 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129621#Comment_122129621

    It’s just the usual warrior keyboarder crap, op’s ask for advice, there are always those who think breaking the law is the thing to do, and makes them look brave in the process.



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    #81
    Kaisr Sose
    Registered Users Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129658#Comment_122129658

    It's actually scary to think we could be living beside a neighbour that thinks poison or undermining the trees roots is a solution. Talk about using a mallet to crack a nut ..



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    #82
    yagan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,754 ✭✭✭yagan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129658#Comment_122129658

    According to some posters here I'm breaking the law every time I cut kill plants originating from my neighbours plot.

    My neighbour is sound and actually helped me last year.

    Besides a dead tree if a fire or fall hazard is the owners responsibility.



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    #83
    Dav010
    Registered Users Posts: 14,197 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129687#Comment_122129687

    I suspect their bravery extends no further than typing on their phones though, nothing to be worried about.



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    #84
    Dav010
    Registered Users Posts: 14,197 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129694#Comment_122129694

    You asked earlier what law would be broken if you poisoned the roots of your neighbours tree, and you were provided with the relevant law. It therefore isn’t according to some posters, it is according to the Criminal Damage Act, it isn’t posters fault if you can’t distinguish between the two.



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    #85
    Discodog
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129609#Comment_122129609

    Given the nature of the neighbour I would put it in writing as part of a nice letter saying that you hope that there can be an agreement. I would be careful with the cutting back & take photos or videos in case they claim that you did damage or trespassed.



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    #86
    magicbastarder
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    I'm still curious as to what sort of tree it is.

    We've a birch in our (suburban) garden which is twice the height, but at least it's a good size garden for the suburbs. Nice dappled shade in the summer, doesn't throw much shade in the winter when leaves have fallen.



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    #87
    JVince
    Registered Users Posts: 840 ✭✭✭JVince


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122126664#Comment_122126664

    I think you need to update your knowledge of solar panels

    They do not require sunlight to work. Direct sunlight will give maximum energy, but normal daylight will still provide over 70% efficiency.

    As for the tree, embrace it. Trim back lower branches overhanging.



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    #88
    looksee
    Registered Users Posts: 28,200 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129522#Comment_122129522

    If you put systemic weedkiller your side of the fence on plants originating on the other side, there's a good chance you will kill the entire plant. If they are rampant briars or bindweed, fair enough, but if you are killing things that have just sent a shoot through to your side, why not just cut the offending shoot off?



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    #89
    Deub
    Registered Users Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Deub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129687#Comment_122129687

    I disagree. I think it is these neighbours that poison the neighbour spirit. We all have to do compromise in life and if you decide to live in an estate/city and you want to have tall mature tree, you need to make a choice. You can’t have the cake and eat it.

    Why should I be penalised in my day to day life because my neighbour doesn’t want to compromise?

    Obviously, trying to talk to the neighbour is the first action and it works 99% of the time. But sometimes, you need to take one step further.



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    #90
    yagan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,754 ✭✭✭yagan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129732#Comment_122129732

    Get a third party to do it when you're not home. It's actually takes a level of confrontation out of if the offended can't intervene with someone who's just following orders.

    Obstinate neighbours have to learn that personal respect is earned.



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    #91
    Dav010
    Registered Users Posts: 14,197 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129904#Comment_122129904

    You want the tree cutter to wait around until the neighbour is not home?

    The limits of what can be legally done are well established. The op can cut any branches which overhang his/her property, nothing more, nothing less. Anything beyond that is a courtesy from the tree owner next door.

    From experience, it’s a pain, cutting down high trees greatly improved the sunlight in our garden, but I couldn’t, and wouldn’t do anything to force that action against the owner/neighbours will.



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