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Usually this is code for 'I'm not fucking doing a sequel.'
I see she took the Dakota Johnson approach
Huh? Explain?
I assume its regarding madame webb
My bad. My brain pulled up Dakota Fanning so you can see my confusion now
Higher cheekbones?
Nothing says quality like filming most of your scenes spliced together in front of a green screen. I see we've hit the point in the marketing tour where she can start hating on the movie because they've got all the pre-sale tickets.
Emma Watson said the same thing about Beauty and the Beast. There were whole scenes where it was just her on a giant green screen alone, trying to act without anyone or thing to really react to. The Be Our Guest scene was just her sitting silently at a table making faces of astonishment and awe to nothing
Well…
That’s her job.
Yep, and she did it, and didn't like it, and probably won't do it again
Even Dobby in the second Harry Potter was an orange ball on a stick.
Transformers is just Shia LeBouf running around pretending to react to giant robots. His performance is actually pretty good when you take that into account.
Similarly why I've got no interest in IF. Ryan Reynolds reacting to prompts, I'd rather just go watch old episode of Foster's Home.
If it means anything, I saw them filming part of that movie in NYC and they had aguy wearing a giant smiley face and a hula hoop that Ryan interacted with.
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That doesn't say anything about the movie quality.
Good thing they already filmed the sequel
Came to say that. The sequel to a prequel is just the movie that’s already been made.
That's not true.
A prequel is a type of sequel. Sequels have nothing to do with the in world chronology of the film, only the order they were actually made in.
In other words, Star Wars Episode 4 is not a sequel to any other film, nor is it a prequel.
Reddit moment
damn, sucks we could've had the original Furiosa for multiple movies like most fans wanted
Yeah, I'm a little worried about this one. To me the previews have all looked like bad green screen compositing and a lot of aftereffects to mask the fake looking scenes. A far cry from what we got with Fury Road. But I really want to be proved wrong here. I'll be there opening day.
Okay I thought I was alone watching that trailer
I was like nah it’s George Miller can’t be as Fury Road is one of my favourite movies
But yea it looks like they didn’t really try or put the same effort into this which surprises me coming from Miller
I’m sure the millions she was paid kept her plenty company
It’s ok. She dies at the end. <spoiler>
I don’t know why I doubt this…
because this is a prequel and the 2015 movie has her 10-15 years older and alive?
Nah, it's something else.
Yeah, the math doesn’t add up. Definitely a different actress. <spoiler>
During her pause.. she thought, “ Dune Part 2 was a walk in the park”. In my opinion Any Actor or Actress who walks into the World of Mad Max really push themselves into some hardcore shit. I imagine taking on such a role has to be a journey within one’s self to pull off. Can’t wait to see it.
How long was her scene in Dune 2?
A couple of seconds, basically an uncredited cameo appearance.
Some voiceovers too.
The fuck of course Dune was a walk in the park for her, she had one 3 second scene that consisted of her standing still and saying a I love you, that’s possibly the easiest paycheck anyone’s ever gotten, did she seriously expect a whole ass movie to be the same?
I mean she doesn’t actually say any of that in the article or compare Furiosa to Dune at all? I think the commenter made a poorly formed joke or just making stuff up.
I just read the Vanity Fair article about the feud between Charlize Theron and Tom Hardy and it's interesting to hear how both Charlize and Anya said that they felt so alone on their sets. Charlize's bad experience in Fury Road was mostly from Tom, but she said that she felt like she had no one in her corner. She wanted an experienced female producer to join the set and try to reconcile things and be in her corner, but the main producer was so territorial about the set, and maintaining certain "conditions". It's interesting, she was on set with all these other women (the "wives"), who also had beef with Tom, but she still felt alone.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/02/mad-max-fury-road-tom-hardy-charlize-theron-excerpt
I think the remoteness of the two movie sets might have been a huge factor in their feeling isolated, but it sounds like a management issue as well. It's easy to blame Tom for his unprofessionalism in Fury Road, but really it sounds like the producers didn't do enough to support and maintain a professional working atmosphere. I wonder if thay continued when filming Furiosa? Like how many times can an actor be 8 hours late to set with no consequence? It's a top down issue, and maybe certain conditions were overlooked to draw certain emotions out of their actors? Or maybe rural Australia just really sucks for filming lol
I'd highly recommend Blood, Sweat & Chrome by Kyle Buchanan, it's a really fascinating read about the making of the movie that fleshes out all of the turmoil well
I don't have a vanity fair subscription. Can you summarize why Tom was a problem?
He constantly showed up late to set when shooting days were already grueling and miserable. Like 6-8 hours late. Imagine having to deal with somebody who thinks he’s good enough to make people wait around all day in the hot desert. I’d be livid too.
I had heard way back when that Tom was bad on set, but didn't know he specifics. I wonder why he was showing up late, a few famous actors who had this problem it ultimately ended up being a serious drug / alcohol problem causing them to be many hours late for shooting time.
Jim Gandolfini infamously had this the second half of Sopranos, sometimes missing entire filming days because he would literally be on the streets of New York zooted out of his mind. There was apparently one incident where the production literally couldn't find the guy for days, and they were worried he had gone off and died of an overdose somewhere. Then he randomly shows up a few days later.
From what I remember he didn't want to be there and thought the movie was stupid. But then he saw the finished film and immediately went and apologized to everyone. Don't know if that makes up for making everyone miserable.
He had been sober for a long time by the time they filmed Fury Road. So it’s not drugs, he just is (or was) an ass. Maybe the brutal conditions got to him, but no matter what, there’s no excuse. It was unprofessional.
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Jfc. You can be late to a lot of jobs, but filming a movie is like the worst job to be late to.
It's not awesome, but I've definitely heard of worse.
So while waiting on set with the entire cast and crew besides Tom, they felt lonely? We’re going to pretend that makes sense? They were alone on set because one guy wasn’t there? Okay, sounds good
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Edit: that’s it! Vote it down so people don’t get caught up in annoying little things like logic.
The article is about her being lonely on set. If you’re lonely around an entire filming crew because one guy wasn’t there… you’re either a liar or you’re obsessed with him.
There’s a difference between being alone and being/feeling lonely.
You can feel lonely in a room full of people if you aren’t really connecting with any of them, or if you aren’t feeling heard (or respected as seems to be the case with the producer), etc.
From the sound of it, the lack of having anyone “in her corner” and the other main star of the film seeming to not give a shit or respecting what they were doing seem to be the contributing factors.
Makes perfect sense to me.
Come out of mom’s basement once in a while, and you might begin to understand… “it’s lonely at the top,” “alone together in the coffee shop,” etc.
"So while waiting on set with the entire cast..."
You're being downvoted for ignoring logic. Obviously, she didn't mean literally alone.
You are talking of two different films. Charlize had issues with Tom. Anya felt knelt but we don’t know why yet.
On top of what’s been said; there was an instance where he was 5+ hours late, with Charlize sitting patiently in the war rig the entire 5 hours, and finally when Tom sauntered onto set, she blew up and demanded he be fined X amount of money for every hour of everyone’s time he wasted, at which point he got incredibly toxic, marched up, got in her face and was all “what did you just say to me?” And made her feel threatened.
Nicholas Hoult compared it to being a kid in the backseat of the car while your parents are fighting.
many have said it. Tom Hardy is apparently a guerrilla on set …
Guerrilla or gorilla? Neither are really known for rudeness
He always trying to violently overthrow the director
Why, just the other day, a Silverback held the door for me at Kroger!
That's because Tom Hardy thinks he runs all the sets he's on. I'm sure it didn't go that way on Nolan's set. But I've heard he's a bully on set. Not cool.
Which sucks. Hearing he was a dog lover made me think he must be a softy but I guess he’s one of those who prefers dogs to people… which, I can’t blame him for, but I’m not going to be an unprofessional jerk about it.
I can blame him for it. Dude sounds crazy and dogs aren't people. Of course they're easy to get along with. They're literally bred to be subservient to you. It says a lot about a man if he prefers dogs to other people. 🤷🏽♀️
All sorts of nutcases love dogs. It's a really bad metric to judge someone by.
Yeah, I get it. I heard he has rescued several strays in locations he filmed in which pulled my heartstrings.
But you’re totally right. Hitler and Putin liked dogs too.
I hate when people report this, time and time again. Maybe, instead of only reading Vanity Fair, try Googling around a bit and have a look at any or all of the various interviews the people involved with the project have given.
There's more to the story then, "Tom made Charlize feel unsafe and was generally unprofessional." A lot more. The primary interaction that consistently gets recounted has to do with her directly confronting him and him responding in a similarly aggressive manner. There have been a few reports as to why Tom was having problems with the film (his dog died, no complete working script during shooting, taking over the role from Mel). Some of this has been discussed but hardly ever gets reported on, likely because it's not as interesting as two actors hating each other. I believe Tom also gave Charlize a bracelet or a painting at the end of production, with a note telling Theron that he appreciated her (something to that effect). But even more than that, Tom later apologized to George (during the press conference for Fury Road) for his overall frustration and attitude, as well as admitting that he could have been a better partner for Charlize during their time on the film.
Everybody involved made a great film, but people insist on crafting this narrative around Tom (and really by extension George Miller) creating some unsafe work environment for women. That's actually the only issue I have whenever Theron talks about her experiences with the movie.
I never said I only read Vanity Fair., I linked that to quote Charlize's comments and isolation because it of its striking similarity to Anya's. My point in my main and followup comment isn't about any perceived feud between Tom and Charlize (in a second comment I said I didn't feel like she was abused), but I was trying to get the point across, perhaps inarticulately, that the real underlying issue is beyond just their little fight, and likely connects the experiences felt with both movies. I said that while it's easy to blame Tom Hardy, there is more to the story, one that likely lies with overall management of the two films.
Perhaps.
Or maybe people are searching for a connection where there simply isn't one. It's appealing to think that just because Charlize and Anya are both women, playing the same character, connected to a larger Mad Max universe, under the same director and some of the same crew, that they their experiences might mirror one another, but I highly doubt that's the case.
I think I may have already seen some discussion about this too, which is slightly hovering over the area of safe spaces for women and discussions of that sort. Not that this is or was the case with Furiosa mind you, but who knows. According to George Miller, the making this movie, particularly with regards to studio relations, was a much smoother process than he had with Fury Road.
Reading Anya's comments though, or comments as they have been reported, I just don't know. It almost comes off as manufactured trauma or something, whereas I could at least understand some of what Charlize was expressing. Anya is deliberately vague when speaking about her experience with the film, and why it impacted her so much. And outside of having ridiculously early call times, and the emotions required to portray the character, nothing reported seems irregular. Even her comment about asking her in twenty years just screams ridiculousness.
Maybe she's saying it's something she feels could harm her future in the industry were she to make a fuss about it now, but in twenty years she'll either be wealthy/powerful enough, and/or retired enough, to not care?
I think that method worked for the movie producing a post apocalyptic dystopia where every one is out for themselves, there is no one in anyone’s corner… every man or woman for themselves , there is no one who cares about your feelings
That's what I suspected the producers were trying to do with the sets. Even method actor Tom to a degree (he grew kinder near the end of shooting, which others on the movie said paralleled the movie relationship). It struck me as bizarre that the producer wouldn't let the veteran female producer come in and give Charlize the support she was begging for. He wanted to keep the atmosphere going, but on the other hand, that doesn't make sense. The production was costly enough and all these delays didn't help. At the end of the day, (hopefully) producers wouldn't sacrifice the bottom line for drawing out a method performance.
There has to be a line on sets with working conditions to protect the cast and crew. (Not saying Charlize was in an abusive situation at all). I don't know if the conditions will result in a better movie or not, they are actors after all, and it's hard to feel sorry for these actors who are getting a huge payday, but we also don't want to go to the extreme of The Shining director and torture our lead to draw out a better fear performance. Safe and fair working conditions are a right, even for millionaire actors. It doesn't sound like that line was crossed on either movie set at all, but a smoother production is ultimately a win for the movie.
Yeah, I really love this movie and it’s kinda disappointing to read some of this. I also don’t get why they wouldn’t abide Charlize’s request to have a female producer come on set for support. She didn’t seem like she was much of a problem and her attitude was in reaction to Tom’s chronic unprofessionalism, so why deny her something that would make her feel better and maybe lead to a resolution between the two main actors.
I am also confused that all the Wives were sick of Tom too, but I guess they didn’t bond with Charlize? If she were seeking female support, you’d think they’d have her back.
The other women (who spoke on it) indicated that Tom and Charlize had different approaches to acting, so to a degree they probably weren't taking sides in that particular feud. I think Charlize, when she said she felt alone, was likely saying that she didn't feel supported by the producers and maybe felt like she was the only one going through it (to that degree).
The fact that they didn't let the female producer help was so odd. The only thing I can think of is that the main producers didn't want her interference with their schedule.
If that's the case, then fuck the producers. They could just let the actors, you know, ACT without purposely cultivating a toxic, dystopian work environment in hopes that it'll turn everyone into real life savages to better portray fake ones.
Yeah , I considered that perspective… but a good actor may not pick up nor display subtle things like complete despair and hopelessness because most of us have never even experienced or considered those these days much less exhibit them unless it was all but forced out of them
If you actually read the article, she’s just saying it was a challenging experience and something she grew and learned from. Damn. Give her a break.
She said she wanted that experience, which is why it’s odd to complain about the exact thing you sought out
She did not complain. Telling something is difficult is not something that people should have an issue telling to others
It’s her job, I complain about my job all the time. It’s not really that odd.
Roughly 100% of humans I know also exhibit this behavior
So “odd”.
I am currently on disability, still complaining about my job.
Oof, take a break and let me complain about your job for a bit!
There is a world of difference between explaining your experience to someone who asked and complaining.
I can see that being confusing if you’ve never accomplished anything difficult.
I had a lot of friends on this shoot (lots did Mad Max in Africa too), and the conditions were absolutely brutal. Months in shitty Alice Springs, red dirt, dust, insane temperatures, extreme hours, sand, noise, night shoots, crap accomodation. Absolutely fucking tough stuff. Then to Kurnell sand hills for some even more flogging. Hats off to all of them. VFX, yes, but most work was in camera stunts with MANY vehicles plus duplicates. Then not to mention 2nd Unit!
Do you know if they liked working with George Miller?
I mean, absolutely. He’s an icon of Australian cinema. To be credited with one of his films is an enormous compliment to your ability. He treats his crew well, and engages the same people repeatedly (which is always a good sign). I’ve seen lots of BTS pics and honestly the rigs should be in a museum exhibition one day. Unbelievable feat of engineering and design. I’ve seen some of the stunt vids too and it would’ve been unreal to be on set for those. I’d recommend watching “The Madness of Max” documentary about making the original film. It’s been loose and insane since the start. It’s definitely something they can all be proud of. Each department, I mean, sand/dirt/dust and cameras/lenses, lighting, costume, sound, SFX, HMU, vehicles etc do not mix so it’s a fucking technical marvel they got it all together. It was BRUTAL for everyone but an unbelievable shared experience by all accounts
That’s great to hear. I’m not in film but I have friends who are. It’s always wonderful to hear good things about people I respect. And always sad to hear bad things.
"It's been loose and insane since the start"-- totally, anybody who's actually watched the films and documentaries would know damn well what they're getting into, if they don't delude themselves that 'George made the cute barnyard-animal picture, respected by Hollywood, it'll be fine'. The cars are the real stars of the film, and nobody really looks like they're experiencing more fun than discomfort most of the time except maybe the drivers.
People are taking this like she’s being a brat about the movie, but i