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Drake was angry that Macklemore only apologized to Kendrick for winning the grammy. Interesting...

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Ok Aubrey

u/I_kickflipped_my_dog avatar
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For real, Macklemore beating out Drake is par for the course in the realm of radio hip hop. Also, I like Macklemore; he seems like he's a decent dude and his music shaped a lot of college memories for me (at the time), but Macklemore or Drake going up against Kendrick is like Led Zeppelin losing a battle of the bands to Imagine Dragons. It just doesn't make sense to me.

You’re not going to let me forget that Kendrick performed live with Imagine Dragons, are you?

u/I_kickflipped_my_dog avatar

Haha, hey man, it is what it is. Make that money, but I agree that was incredibly lame.

The verse was good tho at least

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u/fluidfunkmaster avatar

If Imagine Dragons is good people why are we fretting? Music is music.

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u/AestheticAttraction avatar

Eh. I love that performance. He has so much energy, and they clearly felt it. The only thing I disliked was them cutting to Taylor Swift’s awful dancing. 

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u/Wild-Apricot-9161 avatar

Macklemore has my respect for dissing Israel.

He has good politics.

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The Palestine song is great. I’ve never liked Macklemore before…same love had a good message, but I didn’t like it musically.

u/Ayoissathroway avatar

Unfortunately Macklemore did wear a full on racist ass costume on stage at one point…

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He just made that hinds hall track tho which washes

u/macandcheese1771 avatar

That one was pretty classless

u/metalshoes avatar

The nose is the finisher. It would be too nondescript to be offensive otherwise. Like you’re dressed like a… swarthy Amish man maybe? But the nose… oof…

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Jesus i feel guilty looking at this shit, that's fucking embarrassing

Oh wow, that was a pretty poor choice on his part.

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u/taddymason_76 avatar

You raised a horrible person, the nerve of you Dennis.

🤭

Wasn’t Dennis absentee for a lot of young Aubrey’s life? If so that boy Kendrick be throwing darts lol

u/Safe_Pin1277 avatar

Dear Sandra

That’s the where he learned the no need to feel guilt thing from. Kinda sociopathic and then the ‘aaah there it is’ moment, underlined…

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Drake is a sensitive ho

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u/ThreeOneThirdMan avatar

He made an entire discography about being upset. Drake a bitch

u/throwaway_5256 avatar

Ngl when Kendrick said he had no classics he was low-key saying the truth, even Take Care doesn't feel that great to listen to when you realize Drake has been whining about the exact same shit for almost 15 years

u/Always2ndB3ST avatar

I’m still kind of on the fence whether he has any classics. TC, NWTS, and IYRTITL might be classics but I encounter a lot of people that don’t agree lol

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OVO - Other Vaginal Option

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Don't let his personas fool you. He was hurt by the control verse too, one of the only rappers to take it personally.

Still don't understand that. Kendrick's message was pretty clear to me: 'ya'll are my competition; I'm trying to do better than all of you'. Drake should have felt honoured to be included in that list.

u/Ishouldnt_be_on_here avatar

That's what's crazy is how this all started by basically talking them up

u/DYMck07 avatar

Exactly. Wale was like, respect. Cole was like, respect. Krit was like, challenge accepted. Everyone else was like, I’ma respect it or talk my shit back. Drizzy the only one out here in his feelings over it in multiple interviews, threatening to pull out the ESPYs if they aired his recorded true feelings.

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Even Big Sean has said multiple times that he got over it and it was his song so he had more right to be offended than anybody lol

After what happened to Nipsey, I reached out to Kendrick

It wasn’t even no real issues there to begin with

Lack of communication and wrong information From people fueled by their ego, it’s like mixin’ flames with diesel

Can you imagine Drake having the maturity to say something like this

KRIT on his response track

Ask me about this Kendrick shit

That he ain’t even really even diss me on

I ain’t drawn to all this propaganda

And funnily enough from the same song

Like one of these days I’m gonna be a rapper /But all my verses gonna be borrowed /So I’ma take from all these Southern artists /That mainstream never heard of /Recycle all of they lingo /And make sure I screw my words up /Bravo for your swagger-jackin’ /I’m overwhelmed by your dedication /You actually fooled these people into thinkin’ /That your music was innovative

Aged like fine wine

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u/Lurker242424 avatar

This is why Kendrick says Drake is “not like us.” He doesn’t understand hip hop culture, because the other rappers and us fans knew he was giving them their props while challenging them to raise the bar in their work.

Drake said it was "harsh" words. 😂

Loool fuckin 10 ply.

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Allow me to offer a different perspective while I do consider Drake sensitive I do think he was the only rapper to take Kendrick seriously because of the offense that he took by it

That's not true either. Every damn person asked understood and proceeded to drop their best albums over the next 4 years...

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u/throwaway_5256 avatar

I think you have a point here, early on Drake was doing mainstream numbers but he was also getting a ton of critical praise for his first few albums. More than a few people thought he would be the next rapper to run both lanes of being an A list superstar but also a critically acclaimed innovator. His Kanye influence wasnt subtle

So around this time Drake had multiple well received projects under his belt and suddenly Kendrick shows up and drops an album that was far more highly regarded and basically everyone agrees that he should have won. Then Drake has a strong project with IYRTITL but then Kendrick has TPAB. Once Views flopped with critics (and the Views hype was real, people said it was gonna be his magnum opus) my guess is he realized he just wasn't able to produce work that would reach that next level of critical acclaim and instead sold out to build his legacy off as many hits as possible. Also likely why Kendrick dropped the "you don't have one" line

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Mac said fuck Kendrick on a song and kept it moving.

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u/TheUrbaneSource avatar

He's a queen

They not like us.

Then step this way, step that way.

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u/ReyDeLaQuesadilla avatar

He a OVHOOO

u/joec_95123 avatar

Fake and needy

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Full of all kinda of wack takes. You can be kind without expecting kindness in return. Macklemore also seems conscious enough to respect the issues Kendrick writes about. Makes sense he would appreciate Kendrick’s Album.

u/I_FEEL_LlKE_PABLO avatar

I don’t think I agree 100% with Macklemore on his new song (I can’t lie it’s so good, it got me larping as one of those college protesters listening to it)

But the rust he took making that song made me realize that he didn’t just apologize to Kendrick for PR purposes, he actually meant it

And that makes it a lot easier to allow myself to enjoy some of Macklemore’s music, even if he is a white rapper that made his bag appropriating hip hop

If anything Drake was and still is appropriating hip hop more than Macklemore ever did, because like Kendrick said, he helped turn hip hop from a genre of which a large purpose was activism, into a genre of pacification, true pop music.

u/Warmslammer69k avatar

Macklemore is undeniably corny, but he owns it and is also undeniably authentic. Since his first hits people have been calling him fake, and honestly in a vacuum I don't blame anyone for getting that vibe, but Macklemore has consistently been out there grinding and working. Every bit of success he's had, he's earned.

Tldr Macklemore is corny but cool and gets a lot of entirely undeserved hate.

While I do agree he is like, a swag white boy cornge type. I love that he owns up to it and feels genuine on the music he makes.

Not to mention that NPR Tiny Desk he had a decade ago. I still revisit it sometimes

Nice name

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u/OneOfTheOnly avatar

people acted like macklemore was an industry plant as soon as he won the grammy

he was an independent artist who made himself a popstar overnight, maybe if he had a PR than he wouldn’t have fallen off so hard

At the time nobody had an issue with the apology. They took issue with him publicly posting his apology text on Twitter which was questionable at best

u/PhillyT avatar

I think he was screwed as soon as he won. If he didn't post it or just said I talked to kendrick, it would have been disingenuous, or assumed he didn't mean it. Posting it came off as approval seeking. Not even sure what the best move would be for him there, but there was no winning. And it would have sucked for him to have to say something in his speech, at the biggest moment of his life

u/Always2ndB3ST avatar

He should’ve….not posted online like that. It also kind of embarrassing for Kendrick too, and he said he didn’t appreciate it in an interview.

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u/EvidenceOfDespair avatar

You forget what Twitter is like? If he didn’t, they’d probably have gotten to the point of sending suspicious packages to his parents. They harassed fucking JoCat out of creating over the world’s most innocuous song ever. That’s just survival.

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u/howdoyado avatar

I don’t really agree that Macklemore made his money appropriating hip hop unless you make the same claim for every white rapper. You should go back and check out his first album Language of My World. The guy has always been making music that he likes and speaks to himself. It’s really a uniquely Seattle sound, for better or for worse. But he’s always been genuine and has never made music just to sell out. He’s certainly nowhere in the pantheon of greatest rappers of all time, but he has made some great music that people like.

I may be bias though because I grew up listening to him and seeing him at small shows with like 20 people in the audience.

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u/yoyosareback avatar

Nah fuck that appropriating hip hop bullshit. It isn't an exclusive club that only certain people can output. It's a magical form of music that everyone should be able to enjoy and create.

I'm a white boy from the midwest. I was raised on hip hop. Andre 3000 and mos def have helped me through some shit. You telling me that white people can't be a part of hip hop? Get outta here

Also drake is more of a pop artist than a hip hop artist

Appropriation isn’t directly about race or ethnicity. It’s about the attitude you take toward the culture(s) you’re engaging with .

u/I_FEEL_LlKE_PABLO avatar

Exactly

u/I_FEEL_LlKE_PABLO avatar

If Macklemore had that attitude I would criticize him just as much, if a dark-skinned rapper that was raised in an environment more similar to Macklemore or Drake said that I would also accuse him of appropriation

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That take seems like it's arguing that the amount of immersion is the deciding factor in your views on cultural appropriation.

It seems very similar to acculturation. The only differences are the particular cultures involved.

That seems hypocritical, to me. One group of people is "allowed" (by you) to change their cultural identity, but another group isn't?

Also I'm not talking for myself. Nobody that saw me off the street would think i ever listend to hip hop all the time. I'm just talking generally

I can see getting upset about somebody pretending to be something they aren't, but I don't understand why Macklemore would ever be considered to be doing that.

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The greatest yapper alive

If you haven't watched Marcellus Wiley's breakdown of how long Drake has been hating on Kendrick, it's a good watch

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"Whether it's racial or not, it's not about me, and that's the real issue."

That's the craziest part about it, I don't think he understands why it's controversial and if he doesn't care. He's just mad he wasn't included so he can feel important. He's a nepo child, with daddy issues, an identity crisis and a narcissist.

u/Cheap-Sector-3492 avatar

Never heard him called a nepo baby before. What's that about? Not saying anything you said is incorrect, I'm just legitimately curious how nepotism benefited Drake.

It might just be my poor understanding of the word or a reach, but his father was the drummer for Jerry Lewis, he’s also related to Teenie Hodges and Larry Graham who had ties to the music industry.

The argument can be made that everyone has ties to someone in the industry, but I truly believe that this weird position of power he thought he had did mess with his head, which would explain why majority of the people signed to his label have max 4 projects and after being given 5 tracks by The Weeknd on Take Care (his best album in my opinion) tells him that he’s still owed a favor. I would also like to think it’s part of the reason why he’s consumed with the sweatshop that is OVO because if your relatives only got producer credits on their songs, why not flip that and make sure you’re the only person to benefit from singing other people’s lyrics. That’s just working theory I have, it’s a lot more in depth when you consider how OVO operates and why he’s the only person to benefit the most in OVO apart from being the lead artist and owner.

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u/RedditMartyr avatar

Bro, why would he text you? 🤣

Ain’t nobody saying Macklemore robbed Drake. They said Macklemore robbed Kendrick because Kendrick had the best rap album that year.

Find me one person who thinks Nothing Was The Same is better than fucking Good Kid m.A.A.d City.. 💀

For what it’s worth, Macklemore also didn’t apologize to me when he won rap album of the year

u/Deputy-DD avatar

You need to find someone who thinks NTWTS is better than The Heist, not better than GKMC. I think Drake is just calling it as it is in this message, IDGAF if it seems petty, The Heist was the worst album of the lineup

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Agreed. NWTS is way better than the Heist. I’m just saying GKMC was the clear robbery of that night.

u/RecoveredAshes avatar

Kinda disagree tbh. GKMC was obviously by far the best, and one of the greatest hip hop albums ever, but the Heist was a (far) second. It was extremely popular and had some great tracks beyond just the radio hits. NWTS wasn’t as strong.

Just saying anything smh

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u/jonny32392 avatar

I mean only one album wins so it really doesn’t matter where the heist falls if GKMC is the best album that’s the one that got robbed. Drake was bein a bitch.

u/WaspParagon avatar

Yeah I have no issue whatsoever with anything he's said on this. You don't apologize for winning, and if you do, I see why Drake would want to be apologized to too lol

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Maybe Macklemore only thought Kendrick's album was better than his, but not Drake's album.

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This is not even a possibility to drake. That’s how dull he is.

I don't listen to rap as I don't understand it. But from whatever snippets I have heard, even I can see that Drake isn't even in the same league as Kendrick. Why is he arguing with Kendrick?

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He huffed his own farts too long, sitting around yes men with decent pens. It’s embarrassing.

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u/PreparationSuch2876 avatar

A sensitive rapper that needed to be tucked back in his pajama clothes