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Have been rewatching episodes lately and there's so many cringe worthy moments in that episode lol.......all of the dialogue and characters scream "I'm a pasty white dude that has no idea how black people sound or act so I'm just gonna make it up for this script....." Some of the biggest wtf lines:
"Bold men make bold statements...." "My name is Orange J... I am down with Massive Genius." "I grew up in the projects....and I killed a man! Later, I got a degree..." "Expect to hear from Goldstein Baum and Waranov!!"
Lolol seriously, WTF!? I've literally never met a single black guy in my life that's sounded even remotely like that, let alone a gangsta rappa.... I couldn't put my finger on it at first, because it's not a bunch of black guys that sound white.... That I've def seen before...it's because it's a bunch of black dudes, trying really hard to act like how a white guy thinks that black dudes act and sound.... Like, they could have literally just asked the black actors playing the part "Yo, does this sound right... how bout these names, do they sound legit...? " Even Larry David knew when to stay in his lane and let the black guy handle the black dialogue... I mean who wold you rather eff with, Crazy Eyez Killah or... Orange J?
You’re only so bold because you’re semi hooked up with the r/thesopranos crew
Hey man you a dick!
Why’d they send you over?? I was looking for a burger not converted rice!
Without Tony Soprano he’s a zero with shoes
My uncle was gonna…..
Yeah but he never did.
Richie is on s nice hill, with Pine Cones all around
You’re only tough if there’s an authority figure nearby so things won’t go too far. Oh how the mighty have fallen…
My favorite line from that episode, Massive Genius asks Hesh, "so you bought horses with your royalties and Little Jimmie's royalties, whatever became of those?"
Silvio "He bought horse!"
Just realized he was talking about heroin.
Very allegorical!
The sacred and the propane
Two different things, completely!
“Now spike up”
Hey dude, Only in....... DEN-MARK!
That doesn’t seem like something Italian mob guys would just give up to a couple unknown bruthas
They're talking about the black entertainer who was partnered with Hesh. The gist is that Hesh used his earnings to buy horses and the entertainer (Jimmy?) used his to buy heroine. They aren't giving anything up, they're insulting the entertainer.
Ahh I’m a dummy - I see
Love that line, first time I watched it I didn't get it either, but I was like 11.
You watched the Sopranos at 11? Did most of the show not go over your head being that young? I’m not even trying to be sarcastic or anything either I’m genuinely curious lol
When the show debuted I was 19. I caught episodes here and there, but eventually mainlined the whole show when I was about 32. There was NO WAY I would've understood even half of it when I was 19. Or 21 or 23.
Yeah I watched the show at 24 (going onto 25) and I understood things pretty well. But I know if I watched it at any point in my teens or even early twenties a lot of stuff would go over my head or I just wouldn’t get certain things. All the talk about depression, anxiety, upbringings, trauma, etc. wouldn’t resonate with me like it did had I watched at a younger age
For real. I don’t think I truly understood and appreciated The Sopranos until my mid-20s. Just that little bit of extra life experience goes a long way.
I just watched it for the 4th time at 22
I've always wondered what it's like for kids who watched the Sopranos. This thing of ours is so layered, and it's common knowledge kids are retarded
I started watching season 2 when I was about 10-11. My dad had watched season 1, and then between my folks and the neighbors it became a weekly Sunday night ritual. Think big gatherings in the living room with pizza or hoagies, and lots of commentary after. Honestly they were some of the best memories of my childhood. Obviously there was a lot I didn’t understand, but I definitely got the basic contrast between how big and bad Tony was supposed to be and how fragile he really was. I’ve now rewatched the series probably a dozen times. It feels like I grew up with these people.
Well I watched the first two seasons when I was that young bc we had the vhs sets at my house. I'm sure there was a bunch of shit that went over my head but not as much as you would think would go over an 11 year Olds head. I grew up in an Italian neighborhood in brooklyn and by 12 me and my crew were already breaking into houses and shit so we weren't really angels.
You and your what? Your crew? You're a captain when I say you're a captain... or if you make it out of 4th grade. Now get the fuck outta hea!
Were you sellin Lobsters for a buck-a-piece down the shore at Sheapshead Bay too?!
Whoever heard of a Jew riding a horse?
I NEVER noticed Silvio saying that until just yesterday I was watching that episode with the captions on-it now is competing for a coveted spot in my top 5 favorite Sopranos lines.
Also, "pour some cold fuckin fizzy water on your head" is from this episode. What a gem!
Whatever became of those????
A lot of people didn’t like it, but I think it’s just misunderstood
Whose welfare check do I gotta cash to get an upvote around here?
He wanted Ade’s shkin, and her mouulllllffffffff
And both of her uteruses
even the pierced one?
Ade put an earring in the pierced one
Hannibal Lecture over here
Haha for real, who am I, Mark Furman??
https://youtu.be/HoqmCwp95Q8?si=zibL6K1qFcTLz-6Y
Black Acting School is why
Dude I’m dead, that’s the funniest thing I’ve ever seen…..that video wins the internet, how have I never seen that before??
It's a clip from Hollywood Shuffle, a movie written and directed by Robert Townsend in the (I think) early 90's.
Man! That just SlipNFall school!
Yo you a dick man
Eat your burger basket and stfu about it.
And I get served with black eyed peas tomorrow? Yo, I know what time it is.
Eat your manigot!
Wot, like Cahmela Soprahnno ?
He was gay, Mark Furman?
I'm lookin for burger not converted rice.
Chris getting something extra added to his burger.
Knowing Chrissy he would check and give Ade the tainted burger
Burger is damaged goods, just like her.
Back to slip and fall school for you.
Chuck McGill??
Chuck was a real lawyer and Jimmy wasn't. Real greaseball shit
What a sick Joke!!!
I’ve recorded in Denmark!
Tell that to Rihooney, see what she says
OP, did you even exschist when this episode first aired?
These kids today.
F*@! YOU SANTA!!
OH!!! Now you’re going on Santa’s naughty list, and you get nothin’!
Remember the crazy hair? And the dope? Now it's antisemitism and gender dysmorphia.
that was kind of the point of the episode dude. That they were pretending to be gangsters to sell albums as opposed to the older era of music the mob actually ran followed by the rap era where actual gangsters became rappers.
I don’t get the hate this episode always gets. Visiting Day is hilarious, Chris throwing a tantrum in the studio is funny. The conflict between the Italians and a black musician is interesting and fits into some of the shows themes regarding the assimilation of Italian Americans and their treatment of other ethnic groups. Also, the idea of Hesh and Tony’s dad being sharks in the music business is a classic mafia storyline. Imho season one gets slept on way too much here
Visiting Day IS hilarious and I kinda wish there had been callbacks to them throughout the series. Like have them playing on Philly Leotardo’s car radio, and have a poster advertising a concert on the wall at rutgers
Would've been very allegorical to have Philly's passenger say "TURN THAT OFF"
Visiting Day should start playing when Phil opens the closet door
Get out of our way and dont be so gay!
We’re gonna defile defile you!
(Which oddly sounds pretty gay)
“I’ve recorded in Denmark!”
"Tuckets, 4 dollas a pound."
Season 1 is the most based season, half of the scenes are just badass fat guys in tracksuits eating deli meat to rock music
Even the weaker Sopranos episodes always contain some gems. But I tend to agree with the OP that the writing is sloppy in this one.
because OP is a FAGGGGGGG
Plus the parallels between the and an and b story lines. A hit is a hit, could be talking about music, could be Junior reasoning that he needs to take Tony out.
Here again to tell people that Massive G was based on Master P.
Master P set up his music label because black rappers were getting fucked by white execs in the music industry, á la Hesh and the do wack a doo. He has a degree in biz administration and
How dare we learn something in this sub!
Meh you have to remember the show was filmed in the late 90s and early 2000s. A lot of popular slang from then has become corny and stereotypical. It's the same with the Italian slang as well.
Massive genius was a try hard intellectual, that's all. You're focusing too much on the character being black. He talks like a try hard intellectual would talk. The rest of the characters use slang that was popular then but now seems dated and comical. Ever listen to old wu tang? As for orange J, there's literally a rapper from that era named juicy j lol
Funny enough, in the early seasons when it came to particular lines Robert Iler would try and tell the writers that boys his age wouldn't talk like that and they basically told him to fuck off.
Buncha fartknockers those writers
I always thought Massive Genius was one of the most interesting secondary characters on the series. I would really like to have seen the lawsuit storyline play out. Just to see how the story would evolve. During the meeting between Massive Genius' crew and the Soprano crew, the Soprano crew was very insulting and confrontational, while Massive Genius would not take the bait. Massive Genius remained focused on the issue of getting what was owed and maintaining the high ground in the face of some pretty racist opposition. That last statement he makes, removing his hat, "what did she call him?... Oh yes…. That nice man I believed she said!"
I watched it back when it aired & even then it was a bit off & cringeworthy.
You want them to talk like authentic mulinyan I’ll send them to slip and fall school.