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I love this guy. They really couldn’t have gotten a better guy to play Thor. I hope he’s Thor for a long time.
Very down to earth. It seems like australians are all great dudes and gals.
I'd be happy to be mates with an Australian since they sound like fun people.
I'd also be happy to mate with an Australian, as they seem like fun people.
I'd be happy to mate, seems like fun.
They are. When I was in the Navy we stopped by Australia a few times and I loved it every time, they were very fun and welcoming.
Wow look at this Rupert Murdoch supporter over here!
/s
If so, I also hope he has a good masseuse.
I volunteer!
He appears to be a great guy and really enjoys the character; I'd love to see a few more Thor titles.
I want him to be an actual lead in the next iteration of the Avengers instead of being a sub lead. He has never ruled Asgard because he wasn’t worthy yet and even when Mjolnir chose him, he didn’t take the throne. The throne might be never for him but for once, I can see him lead a group if he comes so far.
He doesn’t say anyone by name but the original article mentions Idris Elba and Christian Bale as context examples.
Bale doesn’t surprise me, but I thought Elba would be more chill. Dude was in Cats. Not really one to be throwing stones.
I don’t have a source, so feel free to ignore, but i think Idris’s grief was that he wanted his character killed off. He was becoming a bigger star and stuck in a contract. Again, could have just misremembered this.
He also hated the stupid helmet they made him wear and it was giving him neck issues
Is that why he seems way more into his role in Ragnarok? No helmet.
I would say so and despite my critiques of taika it seemed like idris had a bit more to do in ragnarok at least action wise anyways
Understandable. Growing old, having thing thats bother our back and neck is not pleasant at all
Yup his gripes were legitimate - he never actually bashed the films just his parts in them
The original quote, probably part of yours above, also had him talking about how he came off one set after playing Nelson Mandela in a film and straight into playing Heimdall the next day and he couldn't reconcile in his mind going from playing such an important historical figure to being stood in what he considered a silly outfit in front of green screens and playing a silly character.
Poor millionaire actors
I have to change gears at work in the same day and no one ever feels bad for me
And then he did turn up Charlie. Ugh.
I enjoyed that show
Another actor whose self-importance directed them to take themselves far too seriously. Surprise surprise
The article quoted him as calling filming Marvel movies as torture. Which, fine, they can probably be grueling if you are in heavy costumes and makeup and/or doing tons of green screen or action/fight choreography, but torture sounds a bit exaggerated. Like there was nothing redeeming or joyful in the experience?
I mean, I get it. Some actors have to actually be coached on how to handle torture because they have to spend 5-10hrs a day as they have applications put on. It was during one of the Nightmare on Elm St movies where the actor that played Freddy was so done with the facial effects that he just started ripping them off his skin rather than spend even more hours having them properly removed.
Even getting into MCU shape, training for months with a very strict diet and busting your ass to the point of exhaustion to get those muscles is torture.
Jim Carrey learned techniques to survive/endure torture from a former CIA agent when getting ready for The Grinch.
Fair point. A lot goes into the prep for these roles. Taken out of context, quote truly could mean anything.
He mostly just stood around in a big hat looking into the distance and declaring things.
That’s about it. He felt that his role as a minor MCU character was directly affecting his ability to take other work because he’d be in one part of the world and then get a call that he’d be needed for re-shoots. He’d basically have to drop everything for what amounts to one day on set. I would be pretty aggravated too after a while that sounds pretty disruptive to one’s live
Same on lacking a source but I think you're right. His issues that I've read about are all practical.... Going through a lot of make up, costume, and travel for a cameo isn't ideal. Plus he was likely getting paid a cameo dollar amount. It's super reasonable.
That said. I agree with Hemsworth's point regarding humility.
He was warned about playing them away games.
Well, Elba was in 4 movies, and Bale's character was meant to be in just one
Christian Bale is literally one of the best actors I have ever seen in any movie, when I saw that Thor movie I felt a disconnection because the movie was super "fun is the answer" vibe... but Bale's character was dark and hurting in a way Jane Foster should have connected to the theme as well.
But the movie was so full of jokes and lack of real sense of danger that even though we learn this dude could kill Thor and every other god in that universe, not for a second I felt like that would happen except we just met the character.
Christian Bale should have been told they were going to change the atmosphere of the movie because, as it stands, I do feel everyone acting skills were wasted in that movie and that's the director's fault.
The crazy thing is, the movie was darker and for some inane reason Taika turned a pretty serious story from the books (Jane's cancer and Gor the God Butcher) into such a lighthearted affair to the point of cutting 20 to 30 mins from the movie, a good chunk of that being Bale and Lena Hendry. If they'd kept even the tone balance from Ragnarok it would've been fine but it's like Taika deliberately went out of his way to eff the movie up.
My wife's aunt had just died of cancer a few months prior when we saw it. She was pissed, Taika treated cancer like a joke. The movie should have been a dark and sad movie; yeah, it would've been hard to watch but some of the best movies are.
That's such a bad decision. Death comes and life goes on should have been the stronger theme of the movie, not "kids won't ever get hurt so you can use them as infantry like you're in a bethesda game".
They know how to waste good Villains. Ultron, Gor, Hela…
Idk why everyone says this about Ultron.
He was given such a wonderful ending, after we watched him get, literally, ripped apart by every Avenger over the course of the film. And his death, getting finally obliterated by Vision after a calm conversation in a quiet forest. It was nice.
The way the comics work does not always translate well to film. Its ok for a story to be succinct. If the last few years of marvel drudge has proven anything its that teasing out every conceivable character's storyline is just boring.
Because MCU answer to resolving major villains is always to kill them off and Ultron didn’t ever become the type of threat he is in the comics.
It’s not satisfying.
They better not kill off Dr. Doom!
Hela was used well, I honestly never believed she actually died in Ragnarok. I think the only reason she hasn’t been brought back is maybe Cate Blanchett doesn’t want to return to the MCU?
I don't think Bale has ever said anything, as far as I can recall
The article said Bale criticized the "monotony" of working on the "Thor: Love and Thunder" set.
Nothing too damning, honestly. Headline makes it sound juicier than it is.
Yeah it's def misconstruing the quotes of idris and bale to make it seem they are criticizing the nature of the films and they are not if you read their direct quotes
And I've no doubt "monotony" has been taken out of context. Anything I read from Bale around the film looked to me like he was just happy to be there and to work with Taika.
There are other actors who have outright been aggressive about their experience working for Marvel, yet they are not being cited here. I guess envoking Bale's name is just the far easier and lazier thing to do because of some past actions.
IIRC Bale was referring to the monotony of having to act on green screen sets, which I think was a totally fair comment.
I forgot which article I read it on but I'm pretty sure I read Christian's body has called "working with Christian Bale as complete torture and one of the worst experiences he has ever been through!" 🤣
Christian Bale has every right to complain. He’s an A list actor and gave an A performance on the movie, while everyone else treated the movie as a total joke. Both Bale and the character of Gorr were wasted on L&T.
Christian Bale was so good (and wasted) as Gorr that it made me want a Malazan movie adaptation just to see him as The Crippled God
There was something Idris said around the time of the Dark World, how he felt ridiculous to be playing Heimdall after just having played Nelson Mandela, which seems pretty fair to me, but then people took it out of context and blew it up. I think he had issues with fake hair and then a big golden helmet on top, which is probably a pretty uncomfortable combo - and after the Dark World, we don’t see Heimdall wearing the helmet again. He can’t have hated working on them that badly, since he came back for two more films (and cameos in two more).
To be fair, I think the only person who enjoyed filming TDW was Tom Hiddleston, that movie was a mess.
Yeah Tom enjoys most of his forays as Loki because Loki always has something interesting to do
Makes sense, Loki is the main thing I remember from TDW.
I'm on Bales side on this one. There was an interview where he talked about numerous scenes they filmed and cut and I was depressed about it with him. Was some really cool content that got cut.
Elba went from Invictus to reshoots on TDW and talked about bad it was going from real acting back to green screens.
Different Mandela film... Idris was in the Long Walk to Freedom. Freeman who played Mandela in Invictus then went on to do a comic-book movie RED, also having done Dark Knight and Wanted (also a comic-book adaptation) just before Invictus.
Well Christian Bale bashed Marvel before but since he did Love and Thunder he hasn't said anything bad about them, he said happily return in another role since he was almost unrecognizable as Gorr
Bale was completely justified in being unhappy with Love and Thunder. They wasted him.
I believe Elba was specifically upset that the studio cast him in a smaller role, promised him a future and then killed him off in the first few seconds of Infinity War.
He has more of a right to be salty.
Chris is the embodiment of “trust the process”. At first, i thought a Thor character would be ridiculous. It still kind of is, but him being all the way committed to the character, fleshed Thor a bit more and gave more context to him. It really helped that he believed in the idea and the journey, especially after Dark World. Imagine if he bowed out after that movie.
Agreed. Unfortunately, sometimes “trust the process” doesn’t work out- case in point, Thor:Love and Thunder. Even Chris later stated that he got too caught up in the process/humor of the roll, and the film suffered for it- probably encouraged by an unmanaged Taika Waititi. Which is a shame, since Thor Ragnarok is in my top 3 marvel films
Didn't Anthony Hopkins bitch a lot about green screen and how the mcu stuff isn't really acting? I feel like that could fit here
The original star wars cast used to make fun of their films too and say it wasn't real acting. They changed their tune when it started making billions of dollars (except Harrison Ford. He was consistent in his shit talking)
I’m willing to believe that when some actors hear “you made my childhood, your work is so important” over and over for years, they start to believe it. I’m sure money is part of it, but some actors believe that certain roles have real importance
I've seen Ewan McGregor talk about how fan interactions helped him view the prequels differently.
Hayden Christensen as well. I remember Ewan saying it was a bit of a battle to get him back due to the initial reception of the prequels but once he started doing tours and interviews you could see the realization of the impact he's had on the younger generation that's now finally 25+ years old.
In a good or bad way?
And then there are ones like Harrison Ford whose disdain only grows the more he hears fans say these things
I feel a little bad for Ford honestly. Star Wars was always a paycheck for him, but he genuinely loved his roles in Indiana Jones and Bladerunner. While Bladerunner is at least critically loved now, it never made any money at all, and Indiana Jones has not been popular in 20 years.
I’m not saying pity the millionaire or anything, dude is rich af. But I can certainly see where feelings of animosity may stem from
I mean what’s more important. The small important movie no one sees. Or the movie billions of people see for decades upon decades. Lol
I’d argue they’re both equally as important. You don’t have to put down one thing in order to raise up another.
It's a complicated position for the artist to be in, that's for sure. If you're told some work of yours is heralded by many, even though you personally think little of the project, there is an interesting ego wrestling match in your mind.
Without question, I get jobs bc of these beloved projects. Is it reasonable to live with disdain, or would most people open up and say 'hey what do I know about what's important'? Not necessarily gassing yourself up, in fact it could be a humbling notion.
Harrison Ford strikes me as a guy who never wanted to be a big franchise actor and yet, he starred in two of the biggest franchises of all time. Also, he seems like the kind of guy to not like much of anything. He's just one of those guys.
He adores Indiana Jones.
I really don't get the problem with him not liking Star Wars. He was an actor trying to take any part he could, he got a part he wasn't thrilled about and it got massive and is arguably his defining role.
Some people can't flip that switch in their heads to just liking something because it serviced them. He is grateful for Han Solo, but it doesn't mean he has to pretend he likes Star Wars.