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The Demise of Float Fishing??

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You are probably right Kev. I accept that fishing the float whilst offering far more options, depth , movement etc, also requires far more attention to the line, tow and those gentle/ timid bites and more skill. I have just put my 15’ Parabolix float rod in the car, put some of that stuff on the spool of reel I intend to use( I always forget) which helps sink the line. (spool of 4lb Progold mono) . I might even try a spool of 2lb Maxima. The lake which offers tench is 12’ plus deep.
 
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Nearly every good catch of tench I've seen have been on the float, depends on the venue of course, but I don't tend to fish waters on the lead for tench, only personal preference, its what I do guvnor...
 
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Watch the 2 guru underwater videos on Ferry Meadows after bream, ignore the products being pushed, but its a hellava watch imo, and makes my point how fish are doing you over a lot of the time, after all bream are supposed to be dopey....also if you could put the good information through on a video it would be the perfect platform, also the person doing the video can ignore all the contradictory stuff from people who don't understand the methods being used.
I think I posted this once before, I was fishing a small, deep, rectangular lake that because of its shape and openness towed pretty hard, so I was fishing my way which entails dragging various amounts of shot along the bottom to slow the movement, now obviously dragging shot involves fishing overdepth(by various amounts depending on amounts of tow), so my float, a thin tipped reverse peacock around 4-5mm diameter at the tip was sticking our around 15mm, maybe a little more, now I was the only person to have caught a fish(around 8 anglers fishing), this guy rocked up behind me, saw me catch a bream about 2lbs and recast before telling me that I'd catch more fish if I dotted my float right down, now, I often would just day really and ignore him, but I thought I'd enlighten him, so I said 'no, I'm fishing around 2ft overdepth and if I dotted my float down it would drag under all the time', the guy wouldn't have it and left me still picking up odd carp and bream, the worst of it is if you saw me fishing for these crucians I've been catching most anglers wouldn't be able to see my float it's dotted that low, your float should be spotted to do the job your doing with it and there are so many different jobs you need to know each.... hey-ho, trouble is as I've got older I would probably tell people like that to go bother someone else but in a more rural fashion....
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I often take a shot off to allow more tip to show when fishing waggler on rivers as it allows you to slow it down fractionally every now and then but still read the float and see bites that you otherwise may not have had or wouldn't have known about.
Had to smile at the above remark about few people having 2lb bs lines. The vast majority of my reels are loaded with 2lb Pro-Gold, a couple with 2.5lb for bigger wagglers, and a 3.4lb for bolos and 4.4lb for sliders. The other closed-face reels have 0.10 Match Team or Edge Premium for delicate on the drop cane sticks fished off the rod end.
 
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mikench said:
You are probably right Kev. I accept that fishing the float whilst offering far more options, depth , movement etc, also requires far more attention to the line, tow and those gentle/ timid bites and more skill. I have just put my 15’ Parabolix float rod in the car, put some of that stuff on the spool of reel I intend to use( I always forget) which helps sink the line. (spool of 4lb Progold mono) . I might even try a spool of 2lb Maxima. The lake which offers tench is 12’ plus deep.
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Mike, I don't post this stuff as implying any comment on how you choose to fish - do as I do; fish however you choose.
But I do think there's a lot of pleasure/opportunities to be had once you get over the "hump" of learning a few things that are fiddly and off-putting at first.
I'd love to come up and fish your tench pool with you - it wouldn't be hard to sort out a couple of good ways to float fish in 12' and Bob's your uncle. If my er ailments stay away for a bit, we could arrange it.
 
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I do know that Kev and you would be very welcome here . 👍😉 I enjoy both methods and whilst I do blank more than Gordon, I start on the feeder whilst he is on the float and can and do switch to the float if he is catching and I am not. I am prepared to forego the fun of tiny perch and roach for the chance of a real bend in the rod sometimes.
 
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But float catches big fish, its how you go about it, often feeding, or what you feed, if you put micros around a method feeder abd catch big fish then why shouldn't you attract similar sized fish with 4-6-8mm pellets, the fact of it is you do, but if your perception of what is decent presentation is wrong you ain't catching nothing, whereas you'll never be far out with a feeder, it isn't always the best method to fish however, far from it...
 
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Alan Whitty said:
But float catches big fish, its how you go about it, often feeding, or what you feed, if you put micros around a method feeder abd catch big fish then why shouldn't you attract similar sized fish with 4-6-8mm pellets, the fact of it is you do, but if your perception of what is decent presentation is wrong you ain't catching nothing, whereas you'll never be far out with a feeder, it isn't always the best method to fish however, far from it...
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It's Horses of Courses Alan I don't see the point in float fishing for the sake of it. The ultra hard tench water we fish is deep close in is ideal for float fishing whereas the syndicate water I took you last year its feeder all day long for me. With roach I tend to alternate between the float and lead. With perch it's the float all day long on venues like the upper Gt Ouse. But because of the ranges often required it's the feeder on places like Tring.
 
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It is, but some people are capable of float fishing 30-50yds out (not me), its feeding accurately that makes that difficult, plus conditions, I've fished at Sywell at around 40 yards years ago and caught twelve tench 5 over 6lbs, so it's possible, not for me any more, trouble comes that like lots of carp anglers, fishing feeders people forget fish like tench like margins and if you have 4ft of water on a clearish lake they will visit, having blinkers believing fish prefer say 25yds and ignoring closer is as bad as ignoring the 45yds say past it, my floatfishing that day was wasted, purely down to small fish mullering my chosen feed, if I'd have fished pellet or small boilies I would have had a chance, on maggot, dead and alive the roach and rudd were eating everything and I fed more than 4pts of deads and probably 2pts of lives, plus 3 pints plus of groats and at least 2 pints of micros, I had no intention of putting so much in, but the small fish made me try to feed them off...
 
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