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Just saw the scene where Walt Jr and Hank are at Pollos Hermanos and Gus comes over to say hello. In the scene Gus asks how Jr's parents are and then asks if Jr would be interested in some after school work.
I never really thought about it but this is a brilliant move from Gus, if Jr takes the job he gains leverage, if Jr tells Walthe was offered the job he gains leverage. Having Jr working for him would have provided an absolute defense against Walt.
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During my initial watch I really thought they were going to capitalize on that in later episodes. It’s always a game of chess with Gus- such a well-written character.
I think the fact they don’t capitalise on it provides a great insight on how real they tried to make the show. It’s something Gus/someone in Gus’ position would 1000% say, but it doesn’t necessarily go anywhere. It tells you everything about his character but isn’t some contrived foreshadowing. I think especially in the debate about Walt’s “evil” people fail to forget the show is written to be realistic - nobody is this big cartoon villain. Each character is purely trying to survive
I agree 100%. Too many thinly written shows advertise the arc by not having these realistic red herrings.
I always thought Walt Jr. was going to get caught with the blue. He had an addiction to breakfast, and I thought they were foreshadowing.
lol
How exactly would Jr working after school at a chicken joint give Gus any more leverage over Walt?
Easy access to Walt Jr. I mean it’s Gus the Omnipotent, so Gus could get to Walt or his family at any time really, but being a really good boss to Walt Jr is just one more card to play, one more piece of leverage. Not sure exactly how because I never thought about it until right this minute.
Also Walter would be stressed every time he went to work, and also wouldn’t be able to do anything without looking suspicious.
He is Walt’s kid 🤓
Gus is a master manipulator.
Guess what happens when Gus gets near you?
You don’t think Gus manipulating Jr and even more simply having greater access to Jr would give him more leverage over Walt?
There can’t be many things that are more important to Walt than his son, right?
Are you serious? Just think about how freaked out Walt was when Gus showed up at the hospital after Hank got shot, and was sitting in the waiting room, chatting with the whole fam? Or when Mike started taking Jesse on the pickups and Walt was left to cook in the lab by himself?
Gus loved fucking with Walt psychologically. He completely understood that Walt’s ego/insecurity was his biggest weakness.
I didn’t quite realize that, so nice catch, but yeah it’d honestly be a very good move for Gus to have Jr in that situation, especially considering what happens with him and Walt later in the show.
I remember when Walt first met Gus, Gus at first acted like he didn't know what Walt was talking about... but after Walt finished talking said like "I have your numbers" so that implied Gus knew about Walt and was already tracking him and shit.
Not just implied, but explicitly confirmed in the show: Gus knew about Walt from Saul, and knew his product was crazy good because of Gale. It's not like Gus had gone out of his way to get this info or was tracking Walt beforehand, he had his number because Walt needed a distributor and Saul was their middleman.
Honestly, I thought this was going to happen on my first watch. Would have been interesting for sure.