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Kill Bill Vol 2 (2007) The Sensical Cut

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Original Running Time: 137 mins FanEdits Running Time: 114 mins

Outline: Re-edited shot by shot, shots either trimmed or removed, and the sound/music reworked. The idea was to make a pacier, more kinetic & tightly edited version with dialogue more focused, more intense fights, and a faster pace in scenes, fights & dialogue to make a sequel that feels more in tone with the slick original Kill Bill movie.

The first Kill Bill made homage to many aspects of eastern cinema, from the wild Japanese style editing, to the over the top Hong Kong action movies, to the slower less over edited martial art movies of the 70s ...and it all worked together. That same energy I felt wasn't delivered in the sequel after the gory fun frantic energy of the original movie. But when it came out... Something was off about Kill Bill 2 for me. So i sat to rewatch it to work out what that was. The sequel felt (to me) like some of the dialogue wasn't as snappy, the pace far to slow, it lacked the vibrant energy the first one boasted, and scenes felt bloated. After the kinetic style of the first film (still incorporating great slower paced sequences like the death of O'Renn) The editing felt sloppy, with both the pace and edits feeling glacial at times. Some scenes (like Buddy at work, or with the gravedigging pal, felt less slickly scripted in comparison to the previous 4 movies by Mr Tarantino. The long walking shots to music felt like just that, long walking shots, rather than adding style or character atmosphere for the audience. The fights had weak continuity at times, as did some edits in other scenes, mostly michael madsens. I do love how this one is shot, I like the dialogue, and really enjoyed the training by the Sifu, but really... I rarely dig this out to watch, and if I do, I rarely finish it. The slow meandering intro, long pauses between dialogue, and often not adding tension or suspense, makes my mind begin to wonder during scenes, or friends i'm watching it with start to chat over it. So since I re-edited Kill Bill Vol. 1, I have been tinkering with this movie to try and make it feel more focused, have a more continuous pace, and for myself to create the worthy sequel to the first I felt wasn't delivered in 2004. Over the time of editing I realised that the scenes just all really badly needed a lot of tightening with smoother sound edits flowing together from one shot into another. ...Really I just wanted to see if I could make a cut I enjoyed more, & that I might watch more often in the future when i decide to dig out part 1. Hopefully you enjoy this different version of Kill Bill 2 as no scene, dialogue, or music montage is the same as the original version. People know the crack now, I keep what I think works and remove what I find doesn't (this is of course debatable, but hey, it's my edit) then I spend a few nights making the sound work so hopefully the edits are seamless.

Significant Changes:

  • Every shot has been trimmed if necessary (basically all of them) to help pacing/style/continuity, and the music reworked to smooth over the many changes to each sequence.

  • Recut opening wedding rehearsal. Dialogue removed. line by Samuel Jackson. lines from bill. The priest.

  • Recut Bill & Mr Blonde speaking at caravan. Removed dialogue on selling sword cost and Beatrix deserving to die too.

  • Recut Mr Blonde at work. cut Mr Blonde walking from truck to bar. Removed dialogue such as Stripper asking if she should leave, one of the days being scrubbed off the board, and about Mr Blondes hated hat, and Rockets end reaction. Trimmed/removed some tracking shots

  • Recut Mr Blonde arriving home and suspicious of his surroundings. Cut looking at his hat cross-eyed.

  • Recut Beatrix Coming up to door for revenge

  • Recut Mr Blonde talking at Beatrix and call to Elle. Dialogue Removed. Zoomed shot of Mr Blonde getting blood sat over him so you can't see the glass of blood thrown at his right side.

  • Recut Burial sequence. Dialogue removed such as Beatrix being sweet ass pussy, eyes burning. Recut Being nailed In. Recut Darness and Inside coffin.

  • Recut Bill and Beatrix at campfire.

  • Recut arriving at temple.

  • Recut meeting Sifu Pai Mei

  • Recut Beatrix & Pai Mei sword fight & Tiger Claw fight

  • Recut Training Montage.

  • Recut Rice Eating sequence.

  • Recut escaping coffin. Removed Beatrix asking for a glass of water.

  • Recut Elle Diving. Removed Elle pulling up at Mr Blondes. Removed Beatrix walking in desert. Recut transition to Beatrix watching Elle arrive at Mr Blondes. Inserted shot from removed sequence of Elle arriving at buds.

  • Recut Elle & Mr Blonde chat in trailer. Dialogue/shots removed.

  • Recut Snake Attack

  • Recut Elle speaking to Mr Blonde as he dies. Dialogue removed such as always wanting to use gargantuan in a sentence. Recut clearing up money and phonecall to Bill.

  • recut Elle & Beatrix fight. dialogue/shots removed.

  • Recut Sunset montage

  • Recut Beatrix meets Esteban (I should really google the spellings.) Dialogue Removed.

  • Recut Driving montage to Bills.

  • Recut Entering Bills. Removed a lot of Beatrix wondering about the lounge

  • Recut Beatrix finding Bill. Recut Beatrix puts child to bed. Dialogue removed.

  • Recut Bill and Beatrix chat. Dialogue removed

  • Recut Pregnancy assassination scene. Dialogue removed

  • Recut Bill & Beatrix fight.

  • Recut walking away montage

  • Recut character titles and more of Beatrix driving at end credits.

I may try to do an edit of both volumes as one movie (with sequences in probably a new order) and will just go with what feels right and if I can get something to work. As that may go on a backburner, or take some time, here is a cut of Vol. 2 to pair with my sensical cut of Vol. 1.

"Wakey Wakey ...Eggs & Bacey." (I may have removed the 2nd half of this quote in this edit)

I have done a version with the deleted scene reinserted and recut. This will be called the sensical cut extended.

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I love Vol. 2 but I definitely will check this out :)

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I'd be stoked to know what you think. Enjoy.

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I don't mean to criticize something that I haven't actually watched, but it occurs to me that at least some of the cuts you have made serve to eliminate the subtext that distinguishes the original film from the usual run-of-the-mill, straightforward revenge movies.

For example, take the cuts you made to the scenes with Budd, whom you refer to as Mr Blonde (wrong movie). Budd's nonchalant claim that he pawned the sword gifted him by Bill underscores the falling out that has occurred between them. The way Budd is living, his crappy job, and his willingness to tolerate the abuse of his boss and coworkers all point to the fact that he is punishing himself for taking part "killing" Bea. Having to take part in that is what caused the rift with Bill. When Budd returns home and stands out in the open, waiting, staring up at the brim of his hat, he is giving Bea the opportunity to kill him. This is a direct expression of the ambivalence he mentioned earlier, that she deserves her revenge and he deserves to die. It is only after she does not take this opportunity to kill him that he feels justified in defending himself against her.

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in the dialogue he sells it the sword. but the line for 250 is gone. For me it feels more fluid as it goes to the why that he works in a titty bar.

I thought he was he looking at the hat after hat hatred comment. and looking at the mountains as he knows she is out there tgat night. he takes the hat off rather than look up at it first.

I do get I have not specified which lines.

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Impressive changelog. Definitely interested to check this one out and the Vol. 1.

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let me know what you think

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did you not add the deleted scene of michael jai white vs Bill?..its pretty cool

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There's 2 cuts. The extended cut has it, and it also has been recut shot by shot

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