FROM unravels the mystery of a nightmarish town in middle America that traps all those who enter. As the unwilling residents fight to keep a sense of normalcy and search for a way out, they must also survive the threats of the surrounding forest; including the terrifying creatures that come out when the sun goes down.
Theory
How do I know? Victor tells us so in S2 e8 at timestamp 43:45. When Tabitha asks about the lighthouse drawing he says:
ELOISE SAID that’s where mom went the night of the massacre to save the children in the tower.
I don’t know what happened to Eloise but she returned to speak with Victor after the morning.
A LOT of theories are based on the belief that Eloise entered the tower and never returned the night of the massacre.
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How do you know she came back to speak to Victor? I always assumed she told Victor "this is where mom is going" and then their mom hid them away, she leaves and Eloise ran after, never being seen again.
Did you hear what Victor said? 43:45 of S2 e8:
Victor: Eloise said that’s where mom Went the night (of the massacre) to save the children”
ELOISE SAID THATS WHERE MOM WENT
she could only tell him this AFTER
You know I can tell you I'm going to the store to get milk before I go to the store to get milk, right? Like I'm really confused on why you're so fixated on Eloise ONLY knowing that after it happened.
Victor has also said he stayed in the cellar all night any only came out in the morning and everyone was dead. He also has a full on emotional break down saying that he was supposed to protect Eloise, that he was supposed to keep her safe and he didn't. Why would he feel so guilty for not protecting her if she literally came back the next day?
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Nah man. Think harder. You don’t understand. A child left to fend for themselves, all alone at such a young age, in a mythical village full of deadly monsters will undoubtedly have an absolute mastery of the English language. Happens all the time. All the time. Victor be dropping clues with his mastery of tenses.
No one talks like that l. She would never say there where mom went if she hasn’t yet gone. That conversation would have been had after mom left
She said that's were mom went, the night of the massacre. It's past tense because he is telling the story in past tense.
Is English your second language? I'm not trying to be mean, I'm honestly asking, because I now realize all of your arguments are about a past tense verb and that's what you're stuck on.
In English you use past tense to talk about anything that has happened in the past, to signify that it's already happened. So if Victor is talking to Tabitha about something that happened 40 years ago, he's going to use the past tense. It's silly to say no one talks like that, when it's a common part of speech and virtually any English speaker would say the same thing.
Even if you worded it differently, even if Victor said "That's where Eloise said mom was going" it's still past tense and doesn't actually change any of the meaning. There is nothing in that one sentence that would make you infer Eloise came back safe after she ran off. She can absolutely have obtained the knowledge of where her mother was going prior to her mother leaving and she would still tell Victor "Mommy went here."
If you want to argue that Eloise didn't go to the lighthouse and didn't make it out that's one thing. The Eloise lighthouse stuff is a theory that no one else can prove one way or the other. But your whole argument that she absolutely had to have come back to tell Victor something because he used the word "went" is pretty dense.
lol 🤦♂️
Victor is also an unreliable source. Keep in mind he does withhold information from the residents too
Honestly this was my biggest pet peeve about the show.. no one shares all they know until it’s either too late or somthing has already happened
To keep up the mystery, I think they'd have to write it this way.
Plus, it seems to me that the writers are writing this as they go... what makes that cool is that they can charge anything or create any new thing at a moment's notice. Since the town doesn't follow the rules of science/physics, they can do what they want when they want, but it's a lot to keep track of as a writer. Long-running shows always mess this up.
Just because he hasn’t mentioned Eloise after the morning of the massacre doesn’t mean he didn’t see her again.
But then again, he said he was left alone after the massacre.
It’s bad writing - that’s what this is
No I think we all seem to understand she went missing that night
It’s not bad writing it was pretty clearly shoved in your face that Victor has blocked a lot of what he’s seen out of his mind as a trauma response at a young age
He has blocked his sister out of his mind till they are looking at the drawings and it all comes back and he breaks down over the guilt he has over letting her leave to go with their mother. It wouldn’t make sense that he kept seeing her after, it makes much more sense that she just told him when their mother left she went to the tower.
It’s set up perfectly for Tabitha to need to find clues on the town now she’s out and then finds the sister or she finds Tabitha.
Miranda tells Eloise she's going to the tower to save the children, and to go get Victor. Eloise finds Victor, tells him that, brings him back. Then all three go to the cellar - queue scene.
I think that's a more realistic scenario personally.
I can see why you think that, but the phrasing could be used in either scenario. That would have made sense if Eloise never left the cellar at all.
If the police were interviewing someone in a missing persons case and showed them a picture of a gas station, that person could say, "that's where Bob said Susie went that night" even though Bob didn't go with Susie & Susie never arrived. Because Susie could have told Bob earlier that day she was going to the gas station to get milk.
Also if she did come back why would she then say that's where mother went, in regards to the lighthouse, because Miranda didn't make it to the lighthouse. Eloise would say, mother didn't make it to the lighthouse & Victor wouldn't have "found" his mother the next day because Eloise would have told him she was killed.
Plus that would mean she came back, told young Victor something not accurate and then the same little girl who was too afraid to stay in the cellar decided to go out on her own & leave her brother, the only other person alive to live presumably in the woods where monsters live, without a talisman 🧿
And the writers make a point for Victor to tell us he found his mother & make no mention of Eloise at all. Which is an odd line to make if she survived the night & them came back & then left again.
I don't know for sure where she is, but my bet is 99.9% through the tree. The other option is she is living in the woods with presumably no protection for 40+ yrs, unless the BIW is helping her too & just didn't tell Victor.
Anyway we'll see! I can't wait, I'm pumped 😂
Season 3 Predictions
Victor didn’t remember he had a sister until he found the drawings. We really don’t know what happened to Eloise just like we don’t know what happened to Christopher.
People ASSUME Eloise made it through and we don’t know how their mom died. Who killed her? Was she killed by monsters? Something else in the forest? She was found dead by the bottle tree - that’s all we know.
I hate ppl have purchased real estate in the theory that Eloise made it to the tower. Victor doesn’t mention Eloise again and we know she followed her ml To the tower - we don’t know if they made it.
What does it matter how she died? We know she was killed trying to make it to the bottle tree & we know Eloise ran after her moments after she left. But we do see monster style bodies on the floor strongly hinting at monsters that killed them or at least were part of the attacking group.
Of course people assume, it's all anyone can do in this show, but in this particular scenario Eloise getting through the tree is a solid assumption.
You may not like that answer, which is fine, but your original argument was the way she phrased the statement was proof that she didn't go through the tree & came back to tell Victor. Which is just not the case, that argument just does not stand up.
The fact that Victor repressed memories of his losing his sister... Ok. If Victor is an unreliable narrator than using what he said Eloise said would be an unreliable basis for an argument, not that the tense mattered in the end, but you can't point to Victor's statement as gospel and then insinuate he may not be remembering correctly...
The facts are as of now that Eloise left pretty much with her mother, so presumably they traveled together. One body was found outside the tree and the other has not been seen again dead or alive in 40 yrs.
In ANY investigation the most obvious conclusion is a mother sacrificed herself to the attacker to save her child. Period.
Now we add:
We haven't seen her.
That the writers used time to give Tabitha the lunchbox & drawing.
They make sure to tell us he only found one body.
And that you can "escape" from the lighthouse.
And from a story progression perspective it makes total sense Tabitha has someone to discuss things with out there.
I'm not sure why you hate that people think this, especially since you only offered up what you don't think happened and not what you do think happened.
Anyway we will hopefully know soon enough, maybe she started her own town after or has been crashing on the BIWs couch all the time. 👍🏻
True, but remember they showed Eloise running out behind their mother once she left the cellar? Victor never saw Eloise again after that. Maybe she told him about the tower before she disappeared? 🤔
We are making assumptions when Victor just remembered he had a sister
If thats true, I'd figure the mom let it slip to eloise who said it before she left.
No. He said Eloise told me that’s where mom went, not where mom is going.
Either the writers made a boo boo or Eloise talked to Victor after that morning.
Mom leaves the cellar.
Victor asks, where did she go?
Eloise answers, "she went to the tower"
Eloise then leaves the cellar.
Victor is alone.
No one made a boo boo you just don’t understand even though more than one person has explained.
Maybe she found a way back?