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I’m sure he’s sneering at the idea of recusal along with Thomas. Why? Because “Fuck you” that’s why.
I sure as shit hope people have gotten the message on why voting is so important. I know it’s frustrating because change takes so long sometimes but giving up means it will never change. Dems need to stop demanding that they have a fairy dusted unicorn that grant’s every wish and start being strategic. There’s plenty to not like about Biden but Christ the alternative is fucking dire.
I'd like to just chime in that I like Biden a lot. I agree with a lot of the decisions he's made, and even with inflation factored in my household is much better off financially than we were four years ago. I happily voted (and volunteered) for him in 2020 and I'm enthusiastic about doing so again.
I like him a lot more than I thought I would and think he’s been a good president but I’m worried that Gaza and inflation are two issues that will dampen enthusiasm and lower turnout and I am terrified of Trump 2.0. There are way too many people who don’t seem at all concerned about a possible 2.0 with Trump as though somehow it won’t be so bad.
I can understand the concern around Gaza - I was initially a hardcore Israel supporter but have been horrified by the staggering death toll of innocents. I blame Hamas but still I can understand why people are upset that this is happening in our name.
But man oh man when I hear people saying they’ll vote 3rd party because they’re not getting every pony they ever hoped for it just fills me with dread.
I don’t get the Gaza argument from people. So you question the US’s undying support for Israel and think Bibi is a shit-head and are angry about Biden’s foreign policy stances. Ok, fair criticisms. So in protest we’re going to directly or indirectly help get a lunatic elected who would personally nuke Gaza himself?
When I say “you” I don’t mean you the commenter, sorry when I read that back to myself it sounded more personal than I was going for.
I agree it’s lunacy but yet there seem to be a not insignificant number of people who think that.
I think a handful of people are using the election to put pressure on Biden around Gaza and Palestine as a whole, and that's a fair strategy. The problem is that a lot of left-leaning people don't seem to understand the politics and come at it from an all-or-nothing mentality. Typically younger voters too who maybe just aren't thinking about the long-term much or how this all works. The nuance is lost on a lot of people and that's the problem I'm having with more recent protests. Like your college campus in the USA just isn't ground zero for a conflict that's actively been going on for decades halfway around the world. I get you wanna get your anger out, but its misplaced.
It's because they either don't understand or refuse to acknowledge that American politics is a zero sum game. They live in a fantasy world where somehow Biden and Trump both lose and we get a better option.
I wholeheartedly believe that Biden is a war criminal who is knowingly abetting a genocide, and I'll still be voting for him in November because God help us, the other guy's worse.
Unfortunately my lefty friends don't see that.
Well said.
What I'm saying is that I'm morally opposed to genocide and I won't support anyone who does. It's that simple, and I am not going to get pulled down in the muck by people trying to make pragmatic arguments about this. The longer we compromise on our morals the further we get from any of them being represented in politics. It does more harm in the long run to vote for Biden because his presidency will allow further entrenchment of fascistic capitalists in power. It's no different than Trump in the most important senses. At least Trump would be inefficient in his support of genocide.
I ask those that are worried about Gaza under Biden, what do you think would have happened under Trump? He’d be egging Israel on. Shipping any weapon he could get his hands on. Anything that would have gone to Ukraine would be in the IDFs hands right now.
Everyone blaming Biden for a 3,000+ year old war in the Middle East. Thinking the alternative is better? Trump loves talking about turning the whole Middle East into glass. Insane
I know a lot of people “worried” about Gaza, politically. I dont know a single person who otherwise might potentially be a Biden voter considering not voting for him over Gaza. Even polling of just college students ranks Gaza as like the 13th most important issue.
Yeah I’m sure that’s why AIPAC is dumping millions into getting progressive Dems primaried by moderates. There’s enough of a divide among congressional Dems on the issue to clearly indicate you’re incorrect. Finally, Michigan and Philly have a sizable Arab Dem population that Biden would need to take the states. But people said the same thing with Hillary and we all saw how that ended.
Netanyahu is pure evil. Like Trump, Netanyahu should be in prison. So he has tripled down on killing everyone in Gaza to not go to prison. Trump is Netanyahu‘s patsy.
The Gaza situation will be worse under a new Trump regime. We must vote for Biden.
I wonder if Israeli “dark money” is promoting the descent in our country to get Trump back in the White House…?
Agreed. The only person with more incentive than Hamas to continue the war is Netanyahu.
More Americans want to say they give a shit about Gaza than actually do give a shit about Gaza. You can point out the college campuses, but let's be real. The kids don't give as much a shit as they claim they do either. In college, protests are more about being seen doing something than doing something. The reality is most of those kids are gonna attend their lock-ins, take some photos for the gram, and then not vote come November.
And then the alternative candidate has openly called for Israel to exterminate the Palestinian people. It's going to come down to the same thing that it always does: Partisanship first, and who gives people the impression of strength second, and we're running two 80+ year old men, so that's just a crapshoot.
The problem is when the race is neck and neck a 1% swing could mean all the difference. Biden didn’t win by 7 or 8 million in 2020 he won by just the right few thousand here and there.
Expect the right to finally flip and show tons of pictures on social media of dead kids ai/and real heading towards election as ”genocide Joe” when they’ve been fully supportive
I think Biden has done a great job!!
I also think nobody older than 75 should apply for a job that requires 4 years of service. Anyone older than 70 running for President should be running with the assumption that their VP will take over before the end of their term. And Biden should have constantly promoted that Kamala Harris was helping him make every decision he made and if his health failed she can step easily.
Even if Trump were 40 years old I would vote for Biden, but I am furious at the DNC for forcing Biden on us a second time.
Both Trump and Biden are bad candidates and RFK jr. is one of the few people in the world worse than both of them.
If you want to convince people to vote for Biden, don't start by telling them that Biden's age isn't a problem. They won't listen to a word you say after that because you have shown yourself to be full of s***.
1). Im pissed the democrats forced hillary on us, it was obvious she would lose straight up, say what you will about trumps disasterous policies and lack of character, morals, ethics etc but he was inspiring
2). Bidens time was 2016 and i get ut he was dealing with personal tragedy but the country needed him
3). Bernie would have beaten trump by a large margin, about half of the bernie voters i knew in 2016 switched to trump, they didnt want incremental change they wanted big stuff and they wanted it now, hillary was a moderate that was basically a 90s republican
4). Fuck superdelegates
You do know that the superdelegates didn't decide a single thing in 2016, and Bernie lost because he received fewer votes in the primaries, right?
Bernie wouldn't have beat Trump. He couldn't even win the democratic primary for fuck's sake!
According to people over on r/IntellectualDarkWeb though, Democrats haven't tried doing anything to better people's lives!
And IDW can't be wrong!! They can't be!!!
But have you considered that he’s old? And hasn’t brought peace to the Middle East, a famously easy thing to do?
You seem to forget that Jared already brought peace to the Middle East! /s
Oh, so that's what that 2 billion was for? What a relief, here I was thinking it was buying influence with a POTUS.
Silly me
He bought a piece.
Ftfy
So is his opponent. What American President has ever had such influence on the Middle East that they were able to bring peace? Not temporary appeasement but full peace?
I guess no matter how obvious you make the joke someone’s always gonna miss it
Good, I can’t because I will be camping all summer and fall. I can’t take the heat anymore so go up to camp until the temps drop at home. Will be back to vote though.
Agreed. Stock market at all time high. Weed now schedule 3. Biden is one of the best despite being ancient
I know it's a typo, but it's schedule 3
Oops thx homie
Well said.
Same. I'm tired of seeing everyone write qualifiers for Biden.
He's made good decisions and we are better off for having him in charge.
Agreed. I like Biden, don’t love him (or any politician). He’s done much more good than bad (hello, reduce prices of insulin alone), but I do not agree with everything he’s done.
Bringing in Trump again (or anyone like him) is inconceivable. He gets voted in - we get what we deserve. Never thought I’d live to see WWIII and everyone fighting against the US.
Biden's surrounded himself with largely competent people who are not criminals. Trump surrounded himself with bigly incompetent criminals.
i feel the same way and we are alarmed at the idiocy of the far right.
It’s a case where people are right to drive him further to the left vs settling and aiming to get those in the middle because the right is pulling those people further their way as well.
The fact that previously this divide has not been as significant in my opinion shows just how threatening the will of the people actually is
I’m ok with driving him to the left but he can only be driven left and accomplish something if he wins the election.
i'm convinced that with hindsight Biden will be judged as a top 5 US president.
He’s gotten a helluva lot done. When he came into office and promised he could work with a divided congress and get legislation passed I thought he was foolishly optimistic or lying but damned if he hasn’t done just that.
Top 5 is very generous but I agree with the sentiment. There are ton of similarities with Harry Truman both by what he's done and how the public receives him.
Top 5 no, but you can't deny he pulled us out of a turbulent time and got a lot of economic safety restored. Actual infrastructure improvements and spending! Rescheduling marijuana! And it seems like the CHIPS Act might be one of the most pivotal acts in the coming decade for American investment.
He'll be a top 10 if he can keep the presidency and usher in a unified congress. I say that because if he loses we are just back to being a heavily divided nation that can't get shit done, or worse regresses to policies that don't make sense in the 21st century.
Suck it, Woodrow Wilson! You're off the list!
Woodrow Wilson doesn't belong anywhere near the top of that list. Hell, his wife was a better president than he was.
He was incapacitated by a stroke in 1919 and his wife, Edith, didn't allow anyone to actually see him and controlled what documents he supposedly saw. She was supported by Wilson's inner circle and didn't let anyone know how serious the condition was. She took over some routine Executive Office duties and details. She was instrumental in removing officials who crossed them, such as Secretary of State Robert Lansing, for holding cabinet meetings without her or Woodrow present.
Some folk argue she was the first unofficial female president of the United States.
Tbh I just picked a former president at random for the joke.
Wilson was also famously racist
Klansman Wilson does not belong anywhere near that list. TR would have done all he did for foreign policy or more.
You seriously think that Joe Biden will be viewed among the likes of Washington, Lincoln, the Roosevelts, Monroe, Jefferson, Eisenhower and Polk? He is definitely a Top 20 president, but Top 5 is fucking ludicrous.
fair. let's say top 5 of last 100 years.
People don't give him and his team nearly enough credit for the absolute tightrope he is walking. he's got a domestic crisis of epic proportions with trump and the crisis of regulatory capture and capitalistic excess coming to a head at the same time as on the other, international side (but very connected) he's fighting what is likely to be recognized in due time as the potential of a WW3. With most of his country not even realizing or wanting to face up to that fact. one good fuck up either way and american hegemony is over.
I agree with your original top 5 assertion tbh
One hundred years ago was 1924. Since then, we've had FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, LBJ, and George H. W. Bush. I think Biden slots in nicely between LBJ and Bush, so I guess you're right with Top 5 of the last one hundred years.
Mail in voting is so damn easy. But last time I voted I walked to the voting site, waited behind one person and voted, all in 15 mins. Can you guess my race?
They have not gotten the message
All those who sat out the 2016 simply because they didn’t like Clinton and then allowed an orange monkey to remake the judiciary. Yeah. You did this.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted it’s the truth.
He’s got debts to repay
Honestly I think the alternatives aren't as dire as people make it out. Both Biden and Trump will keep late stage capitalism rolling along like clockwork. Life isn't really any different from a progressive perspective under either of them. For the first time in my life I'm considering just not voting. No, Biden, I'm not just going to compare you to the alternative; and if I did, it's not really that different.
One is a court adjudicated rapist who tried to overturn US democracy and has conducted business by constant fraud for decades. The other has a son who does cocaine. Do those really seem the same to you?
Trump tried to steal an election right in the public eye and he only failed because a majority of Republicans didn’t back him on it. The only difference now is that they learned there will be no accountability as long as they win. Look how many flipped after. McConnell now supports Trump, Graham was back to kissing the ring within a month, and the most prominent hold outs have left or are leaving.
Trump won’t make the mistake of hiring someone like Barr before replacing him with someone like Clark.
This post is an amazing example of white privilege.
Government Official Politely Asks Coup Coconspirator to Stop That
yes, i'm sure appealing to his ethics will make him see the error of his ways
Still have to do the right thing. Durbin is highly respected
He does have to do the right thing. Tut-tuting fascism isn’t it.
You’d also think that a Chief Justice would be the one to rein in his cohort but… yeah I got nothing…
I dont get it either, if there is any situation where the government should take things terribly seriously this is it.
I can understand the Republicans, but man am I disappointed at the lack of a spine by democrats.
Fuck em, they are too far gone, hold them accountable stop listening to them. They just abuse language anyways
in a sane world the fbi would've locked up half the republican party january seventh. there is no way that piecemeal prosecution of coup plotters doesn't just lead to a later successful coup.
What would be your solution that Democrats could implement?
I'm still stunned that no one has insisted on recusal of any Trump appointed judge who has anything to do with any Trump case. Trump appointed them. It's the most basic fundamental conflict of interest.
US v. Nixon, Nixon v. Fitzgerald, and Jones v. Clinton seem to disagree that it's an inherent conflict. Trumps case is distinguishable for a bunch of reasons that don't really have precedent because the presumption of good faith is a quaint story in modern times.
They have which is why SCOTUS came up with the little ethics rules they don't really care about
Yes and no. If the DOJ brings a case to the Supreme Court, should any judge appointed by this president recuse themselves? How about any of them that ever worked for the DOJ?
In theory there is no quid pro quo and no way to threaten the judge, so the judge is free to act according to their conscience.
The real problem is the Senate approving federal judges who's only qualification is that they will be loyal to Trump, like Cannon.
The difference here is that Trump is a defendant in his personal capacity.
Judge Aileen Canon enters the chat
this is the most insane take on COI I've ever heard.
Welcome to reddit
That's the best checks notes r/law has had to offer for a few years now. Then, based on this lay misunderstanding of CoI, r/law will "blast" Alito's "galling" "refusal" to comply with this eminently reasonable recusal standard. To deafening applause via upvotes
Why? Is there any history of that happening in this country ever? Trump appointed them and they are not beholden to him in any way whatsoever after they’re confirmed, no?
Clarence Thomas openly taking bribes and not reporting them becomes beholden to every single person who knows about how much monetary value he's receiving. These people are supporting Trump in a theocratic takeover of the United States, which we can now see in the US south with the criminalization of teachers and librarians.
Dude literally receives millions of dollars of value if not explicit cash bribes altogether. I look forward to having rights stripped away by a fat cat who schmoozes up to the plaintiffs. Piece of shit is saying it too lightly.
Sorry I was asking if there’s any history of a judge recusing themselves from a case involving the executive that appointed them simply because of the appointment. Perhaps that was unclear.
That’s a big assumption you’re making. There’s many reasons why they could be beholden to him and the public won’t know.
Let’s stop pretending like they’re some faultless saints once they become justices. They’re still humans with all the negative aspects that come with that. To say what you’re saying is… illogical.
Sorry, this is not a bigger assumption?
No because you’re making an absolute statement which is false.
This is especially egregious since this was AFTER 60+ courts had ruled against Trump's bullshit
Literally zero regard for the law in that house
He doesn’t even think the judicial system is legitimate. He’s like a crazy grandpa with racist conspiracy theories
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