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Hello I’m planning to go to college for music composition. I already made my list of what schools I’m planning to apply to.
Here is the list in order from best to worst:
The Juilliard School
Rice University
Curtis Institute of Music
Royal College of Music
Peabody Institute
University of Southern California
University of Michigan
Northwestern University
Eastman School of Music
New England Conservatory
Bard College-Conservatory of Music
Manhattan School of Music
These are all schools that I would Consider Ivy Level school for music. However I don’t think I could get into any of the Schools. What can I do to help my chances of getting in? Thanks.
You should also look for safeties, or at least schools where admissions is more likely.
What are your high school grades? What do you currently do that is related to music? For example do you play an instrument (or two)? The one person I know who majored in music composition was required to reach a certain level of proficiency in piano, and put a lot of effort in through his last couple of years of high school to accomplish this given a somewhat late start specifically with piano (he had started with different instruments).
What state are you from?
What is your budget? Perhaps more importantly, what is your budget without taking on any debt at all?
Also, what do you intend to do with a bachelor’s degree in music composition?
By the way, McGill is also very good for music, as is the Royal Conservatory of Music at the University of Toronto. So are Harvard and Yale. There are a lot of other universities that are also very good for music. However, I think that we need more information before suggesting any more specific schools.
@TexasComposer you do not have to be proficient in piano or any other instrument to study composition, except at the schools that require an instrumental audition for composers (which I totally disagree with!). Some piano is needed for theory and musicianshp classes.
Are you sure you want a BM vs BA? You might want to read the Double Degree Dilemma essay reposted at the top of the music forum, which is about the different ways to study music, using hypothetical individuals.
If you want immersion in music, a BM is the best path. If you have other interests, it is absolutely fine to attend a BA or BS program, and major in music or even in something else, and do lessons, and extracurricular performance of pieces.
For now 1) get yourself a good teacher; conservatory preps and college music depts. might be able to refer you 2) try to get some live performances if you can 3) consider taking theory (if conservatory prep is not nearby, you can take theory at your school or online) 4) apply to summer programs (Walden School in Dublin NH is a good one for composition and may still have openings. Boston Conservatory has a shorter, intense program that results in a couple of pieces for applications.)
For a BM, your portfolio of pieces will be key more than anything else. For a BA you can submit a music supplement with video/recording, resume and letters of recommendation relate to music.
Since your list is of top schools, you might need safeties. You might also want to think about the stress of auditions and maybe cut the list a little. Oberlin and Lawrence are great places for composition as well. Personally I think Boston Conservatory has become better than NEC for composition (and has merged with Berklee). Hartt, Mannes aren’t on there.
Think about what aesthetic your prefer. Listen to faculty works. The particular aesthetic of a school is less of an issue at the undergrad level . I think diversity of student work is an important indicator. The schools you list range from conservative to progressive at the grad level. I don’t know about undergrad level. But give that some thought.
Yeah now looking at this list I really do need some safety. I 100% want a BM. I’ve heard that Berklee has a good composition program but I don’t really know if contemporary music suits me.
My GPA is kinda up and down. It can be as low as 3.25 but as high as 3.8. I’m about to go to high school so I’m guessing I’m late to the party when it comes to committing to music. I plan on starting piano during my freshman year. I have a few questions though.
How would I go about getting a teacher for music composition?
I am planning on taking Music theory in my senior year do I need to move it?
I live in Texas so do you know any good camps for composition there? I’m going to the Unt camp this year.
Do you know any good cheap music composition/theory books I could buy?
Are there any good places to get live performances in Texas.
Is it too early for me to think about college right now.
Definitely too early to think about this, I am impressed you know the names of all of those music programs. Go to a great composition summer program Walden is one, Kinhaven also has a composition program. I beleive that there was another thread recently int he music forum that was all about music composition summer programs. Learn piano if you are interested (or another instrument if that is more interesting). It is very early to start committing to music, but if you enjoy it go for it!
UNT has a great composition program. My son is a UNT grad who performed in a composition by an undergrad that was performed by a full symphony, choir, and saxophone quartet. Enjoy your summer program. UNT is a great, affordable in-state option for you, and the summer program will help you work on a portfolio and get an idea of what is expected for admissions.
You are definitely not late for committing to a composition program. I know some people who decided to apply for composition programs less than a year before the application deadline and got into great schools.
This is a great plan. I know my son (music performance major) feels that piano proficiency is incredibly helpful with music theory and composition. He always wishes he would have had time to fit in more piano earlier in HS.
And while it may be too early to look at specific schools, it is never too early to explore all things musical that interest you. Attend concerts, expose yourself to different genres of music…and have fun!
In my opinion, while it is fine to generally look into music schools early, keep an open mind into different paths you may end up following over these next 4 years. Even if you remain focused on music composition as your primary goal, there are so many options and a lot of variability in the process. It is quite common for young musicians to adjust their path throughout high school and beyond.
So my advice is to explore music, find your passion, seek out mentors (through lessons, camps) to guide you. And be open to adjusting course over these next few years.
You are smart to think ahead! Just so you know, very few students start composing before your age, so you are right on target.
I would advise taking music theory as soon as possible, even if that means taking it online. Places like Juilliard offer HS students music theory classes online. Both my kids were taking AP level music theory by age 14 and it has helped tremendously.
Piano lessons are really a must for composers. Yes, you can compose without them, but some basic proficiency on the piano will really help. This will also help with the theory.
Your list of schools is the best PERFORMANCE places. They are not necessarily the best places for composition. Many composers go to conservatories but an equal number go to academic places. These do tend to be the higher level academic places, though, like the Ivies and similar, so you would have to really keep your grades up and be a stellar student to get into those places.
As for finding a good composition teacher, you can look at any universities around you for one. A good pre-college or community music school may also have one.
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I think it is way too early to be thinking about this. Some people go to college for something else and start composing. I know one MIT grad in science who went on in the field of composition. I hope you can use high school to explore interests, make friends, and even relax.
Do you compose on paper or using a digital audio work station or??? What kind of music do you write? Do you use Finale or Sibelius for playback or has anyone played your music?
If you want a composition teacher, just contact UNT or other local school, or a conservatory prep. These days composition lessons can be done from afar online too, so you could contact other schools.
I do think you are a little ahead of yourself. You may change a lot in the next 4-5 years. Enjoy creating music!
You don’t need a BM program for composition. It is a choice. And any general music major has composition, not just top schools.
