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To foreshadow episode 4
Reminds me of that scene from the hobbit movies where the woodland king is all like “you should go see Aragorn” to Legolas, and doing everything but wink at the camera. Never mind that Aragorn was 10 years old chilling at Rivendell at the time.
I love that Viggo was asked if he wanted to be in The Hobbit and he was like "you know Aragorn isn't in the Hobbit books right?"
They didn't ask him again.
I did hear an interesting counter point to objecting to Legolas being in the hobbit movies when he’s not in the books, if anyone’s interested.
The hobbit movies are showing all the literal events.
The hobbit book is what Bilbo wrote down about what happened.
And if you watch the movies with this in mind it IS believable that none of what Legolas did would find its way into Bilbo’s diary.
I feel like the dwarves personalities work in a similar vein. Like how in the movie all the dwarves have very distinct personalities, cuz were THERE watching them do everything they all do.
Where as the book, being Bilbo’s diary later on, doesn’t paint them all super clearly. Like there are descriptions like “gandalf said what he wanted to do next and all the dwarves got upset, several shouting with gnashed teeth and one even stormed off muttering under his breath.” And that description works perfectly for the book. But to SHOW that scene the movie makes had to decide WHICH dwarves would react which way and exactly how, and then provide them personalities to show WHY.
So in my humble opinion, translating from page that’s from a single persons point of view where he wrote down what happpens after the fact, versus a screen where we are SEEING the facts in real time as they happened, not only does it ALLOW for additional stuff to be added, it is REQUIRED.
Like it does make sense that Bilbo’s diary wouldn’t including everything, especially stuff he literally didn’t even see. And to me it’s a neat thing to see how some of the stuff Bilbo doesn’t see could have unfolded. And I think it was really clever to make a LoTR character responsible for some of the stuff that Bilbo couldn’t have known who did it anyways.
I’ve been rereading the hobbit again after 10 or 15 years. There are a lot of things that happen in those movies that never happens in the books. A lot.
And he was the only logical person involved with that entire Hobbit trilogy. Everyone else let Jackson run fucking wild and make a big 3-part turdfest.
Jackson was parachuted in to try and save it at the 11th hour. I don't blame him.
Wasn’t Jackson’s fault. It was the studio
I won’t stand for Jackson slander, that trilogy was a doomed shit show that, as bad as it was, was saved by him.
Without his involvement it either would have been much worse or never had made it to release at all.
Not even close, this was 100% studio meddling.
It wasn't on Jackson. The studio is at fault here. Jackson didn't have the time or resources for the hobbit like he did for the original trilogy.
The studio forced 3 movies and at neck breaking speed to release.
Nobody could have delivered quality with this.
It’s my understanding making the Hobbit a trilogy was not Jackson’s idea. That came from movie studio rather close to the first movie being released.
Making it three movies paid off at the box office. That’s practically indisputable. All three movies made roughly the same amount - around $1 billion each world wide on average. $3 billion total for the trilogy. It’s unlikely telling the story in two shorter and better movies (even as two dramatically better movies) would have grossed as much money as the three movies did.
It’s a weird win for the studio. Its like every Lord of the Rings and Hobbit Book Fan was compelled to see each movie once in a theater but afterwards no one talks about it or the fact the Hobbit is a really successful trilogy at the box office.
WB is the ones who wanted to make it a trilogy.
Jackson looks defeated making that trilogy & clearly didnt have the same drive this time around.
If he truly wanted to make it he probably wouldve decided to make one movie & spend as much time in pre-production as he did with the OT.
Dont throw shade on Jackson like he didnt produce the most iconic trilogy of all time.
Dude you don’t know what you’re talking about. Jackson wasn’t the original director he only came in after the original one bailed to save it.
He would have been like 17-20 at that time but your point still stands.
That's a pretty big difference
Not exactly.
I really don't think that's the death star. I think its just some planetary space nonsense. We see the death star in a red hologram in episode 2 as a teaser and they make it very obvious its the death star we see. This has no defining marks of the death star other than being round. And let me remind you there are lots of thing in the galaxy that are round namely planets.
And moons. And... not moons
.
It’s 100% not the Death Star. I don’t know how this gained so much traction.
Does foreshadowing work backwards?
Beforeshadow
I think it’s a Call-Forward.
"Why do I get the feeling you're going to be the death of me?" — Obi-Wan Kenobi (to Anakin Skywalker, who was), Star Wars: Episode II — Attack of the Clones
Lol that was the description for "Call-forward" I think you are on to something.
Technically (☝️🤓) he was absorbed by the force moments before Darth Vader killed him.
Not to mention Anakin telling Palps “His fate will be the same as ours.” Referring to Obi Wan
All 3 died on a death star
If you see RotS before ANH it is.
It does, but not really. You could say this scene was an external retcon. Didn't change anything, but provided more context.
Preshading maybe
The force is strong in this one
To forceshadow episode 4
Maybe it's because he wants to make one
Nah dude he wouldn’t do that, he’s a nice guy
Yeah he really took the protagonist under his wing and looked out for him.
*Takes genuine interest in Anakin's career.
*Basically father figure and confidant.
*Tells really cool stories that not even the Jedi know!
*Offers guidance and council for tough life decisions.
*He even put Anakin on his health plan when he was seriously injured and couldn't work!
This Palpatine guy sounds amazing!
He did dismiss and disrespect Anakin's thesis though
Everything about this guy screams optimism and positivity. Whether something goes well or not, he says good!
Yeah, he just needed to work on his delivery and lose the dark hood and robes. Maybe a good skin care routine. First impressions matter.
I believe Chancellor Palpatine may be a sith lord
A Sith Lord?
A sith lauwd?!
IIIII dont think so. We would obviously know, as Jedi, because of how awesome we are.
A Sith Lord?!
I believe in freedom of religion. I don’t care what he believes, as long as he keeps America… er… the galaxy strong.
He loves democracy
He's not a nice guy, he's the senate.
I asked him personally if he has bad plans for the senate and he said no, so there you have it
I don't think he's knows about second Death Star.
They already were making one (DSX)
Hope he stops at one
Yeah it’s cheaper than buying prebuilt
The chancellor would never betray the republic! /s
He’s already making one
It’s not the Death Star. Palpatine was playing a 3d version of Minesweeper. It came pre installed with the version of Microsoft Windows (I think it was Windows 19BBY) that the Republic Government was using at the time.
It’s Sithsoft, the ABSOLUTE best.
Sitsoft, using the "Saber red" theme.
He’s using a Virtual Boy
Sith deals in absolutes
Hahaha
It’s freecell then
Microsith
“Why does our calendar count down to midway through my rule?”
“Don’t worry emperor, I’m sure it’s not important”
“What the hell is BBY?”
Is it like a BBL?
Uh, yes Supreme Chancellor...
Can't be that, there aren't enough ads
Luke was playing IRL version of SkiFree on Hoth with the Wampa’s.
The dev asking what 19 bby meant
It is screensaver. Generic image on many computer terminals appearin at the background
Still not flying toasters.
God those two words were just a nostalgic slap in the face. Suddenly I'm 11 years old playing Duke Nukem (with a joystick for whatever ungodly reason)
Shareware version? Along with Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure and Jill of the Jungle?
I miss that screen saver. I used to have it on everything.
Now I want this as my screensaver
I could have sworn this was Palpatine watching the Sepratist council moving to Mustafar? Idk where I remember reading that so I could be wrong.
Either way, I never understood the need for another office next to his main one.
This is correct- it's showing two ships approaching a planet, it's not showing the Death Star plans.
Damn, 2 decades I've thought that was the death star lol
Yeah it's very clearly a planet
You can even see the landing routes on the screen.
Are you saying…”THAT’S NO MOON!” ??
I guess they wanted a backup
His office was designed by Xibit