Apple Closes in on Deal With OpenAI to Put ChatGPT on iPhone
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Siri outperforms ChatGPT. The other day I asked about the meaning of life. Cgpt gave me some bullshit answer meanwhile Siri straight up said sorry I didn’t get that — obviously implying meaning is a construct beholden to our intrinsically constrained perceptive field and little more than a thought object. Shit went deep af
Mine said “I Kant answer that haha”
oh snap game recognize game
I’ve gotten that before, but I tried asking it for the meaning of life again and it said this time “to think about questions like this”
Halting Problem in the wild
This is actually great
You’re the iMANnuel!
not what i got…
fakestevejobsmindblown.gif
I've deleted all your alarms
You! You owe me canceled Uber fare and an Amtrak ticket
I think I got a good one.
Mine said this lmao
This guy Siris.
The sarcasm is strong with this one.
I am flabbergasted. I wanted a reason to use this word and here it is. Dear sir thy humble servant of language thanks you.
fuckin voice dictate still sucks on iphone in 2024
Have you tried speaking progressively louder until you’re basically shouting at your phone while repeatedly trying various awkward pronunciations of common words? Because that doesn’t work either :/
42, my guy
This seems like timely PR to signal to Google they need to do better on the agreement. Wouldn't be surprised if it's a plant to improve negotiations.
That’s how I read this too. This might be Apple saying “hey Google, do you want us to put Gemini on the iPhone or not?$$$$$$$$”
OpenAI will announce their search engine Monday. Google is cooked.
edit: Looks like that was outdated info.
Apparently Not:
https://x.com/sama/status/1788989777452408943?s=46
He enjoys himself saying what
it isthings are not way too much.I just installed llama on my mbp last week and if Apple preinstalls something like this Google is also toast.
Ok there are hallucinations, but it’s not like Google is particularly helpful either lately.
I fully believe that they'll be providing a local LLM for many actions along with a cloud-hosted LLM for Siri.
Can you link me to the llama you got installed? I'm very interested in self hosting but the ones I've tried had broken install instructions.
Edit: for folks that find this, here’s the links
https://ollama.com
https://msty.app
Edit 2: looks like msty manages different LLMs for you and provides a GUI. Ollama runs in terminal/cmd. Msty is definitely prettier.
Ollama + Msty
Just get “Private LLM”, it works out of the box without any special setup, it even works fine on Intel Macs, it’s not free but is just one payment and not subscription bullshit, it also works on iOS and iPadOS, it is pretty fast on my iPad Pro M1 with the default model, if you don’t want to paid then you could try “LLM Studio” is pretty good too
Lol
Wow. Either ChatGPT about to be very privacy friendly or Siri is about to be less private
I work at a very very large tech company you’ve heard of. The ChatGPT we use has specific privacy clauses different than consumer edition and even can be segmented to specific infrastructure in Microsoft datacenters.
I work at a very very small tech company you’ve never heard of (150 employees), and we have the same ChatGPT. Currently OpenAI is running enterprise/business versions to certain customers.
I work at a very very medium sized government agency you've heard of, and we disabled all AI.
I don't work in tech, and unless you're deeply involved in the competitive soap carving world, you haven't heard of me. Currently OpenAI isn't letting me do much besides what they let everyone else do.
I work for the navy in dc and the only AI we got is Microsoft co pilot
Yeah but whoever wrote this headline is
an idiotusing clickbait. Apple isn’t making a first party ChatGPT client. This is Apple, they’re control freaks. It’ll be the GPT api accessed by specific sections of their own AI systems.Hell it’s more likely that Siri 2.0 will end up being an on-device LLM prompt generator that asks cloud services like GPT/Gemini for help when it can’t accomplish them on its own. All these leaked deals means it’s probably in the same way you can use bing/yahoo in Safari.
I don't know if that makes the author an idiot though.
All this means is you use azure open ai instead of just hitting open AI……Which literally anyone can do.
Copilot for Security can do that. Although there are issues for data concerning updates.
Somehow Apple is going to get billions out of this!
You do realize that Apple has plenty of your data already, right? They’re just not in the business of selling it.
“Privacy” for Apple just means “we won’t sell your data, but we’re still getting it”
I would argue Apple tries to collect less than its competitors but that often holds it back. I applaud them for trying though.
I’m okay with that. There’s nothing inherently wrong with collecting data. How else does a company improve itself or its products?
It does seem that Apple tries to encrypt as much data as they can to the point where they can’t read it though. iMessage is E2E encrypted, though if you back up to iCloud, there is no way to encrypt it so they can’t read it without removing the ability to change your password and restore from iCloud - that key has to be stored somewhere. Health data, browsing history, passwords, and probably more that I don’t remember are all synced with iCloud, but encrypted with your passcode which Apple never sees*. You have to provide your original device passcode when syncing a new device so the new device can decrypt the data since Apple doesn’t hold the key.
*If you believe what they say, and if you don’t, then this whole post is pointless, and good luck trusting anything on the internet. If you forget your device passcode and go to an Apple Store, they will restore your device to factory defaults, hope you know your Apple ID password, and restore from iCloud, where it will ask for your original device passcode to restore certain sensitive pieces of data mentioned above. They recently enabled a higher level of security as an option, which removes Apple’s ability to restore much of your data at all without a recovery key which they don’t store - secure enough that even Apple can’t access anything, and so secure that you can lose your data if you are a forgetful person. I think they’re striking a good faith balance to not even put themselves in the position of being able to access your data in the first place. Enough so, that I trust that they have no intention of selling my data.
Google doesn’t sell it either though.
Yes, people always say these companies sell data but the ad business (Google, Facebook) means they make money from data without giving it away. You can ask for ads to be shown to pregnant women, but you can't buy a list of pregnant women.
It’s a very common misconception. I’d probably trust Google with keeping my information secure than almost anyone as their entire business model relies on it. They just have way too much of that information.
Not all of it. They really promote how much private data is kept on the phone and never sent out anywhere. Whether or not you believe them is a different matter though.
That's not at all the message they have communicated, they pushed end to end encryption big time.
My concern is with whatever level of data collection will be done by OpenAI. One reason I like the Apple ecosystem is that, for the most part, one company collects the majority of my data (Apple).
It is far too early for anybody to know what OpenAI will do with the data they collect; nobody knows.
The difference is, apple only collects data if you consent, and you can use apple products without giving your consent to allow apple to collect data.
Unfortunately, that’s not entirely true: https://9to5mac.com/2022/11/07/apple-may-keep-track-of-everything-you-tap-while-browsing-the-app-store/
Doesn’t this fall under analytics and usage data that you consent to sharing with Apple when you set up your phone?
lol they got busted sending siri recordings to third parties for “improvement” without user consent. Apple’s never been truly about privacy. They’re just not making enough money out of your data to care but they will seal any gaps that can benefit competitors. But for Apple’s own usage they’ll do the same garbage every other megacorp does
I hope it is supported by iPhone 15 pro
You know Apple will make certain features require iPhone 16 or newer even though older phones will run them just fine.
Same thing with battery 80% limit
It's arbitrarily limited to iPhone 15 series even though jailbreak tweaks have done the same for years
So Apple spent billions of dollars to not sell you a new phone?
They don’t expect me to buy a new phone every year. They know i’ll get a new one if not then then next year or couple
I think many people are attracted to Apple due to its quality and durability, if devices start getting deprecated in a year or less it will lose trust from their clients.
Article Begins:
Apple Inc. has closed in on an agreement with OpenAI to use the startup’s technology on the iPhone, part of a broader push to bring artificial intelligence features to its devices, according to people familiar with the matter.
The two sides have been finalizing terms for a pact to use ChatGPT features in Apple’s iOS 18, the next iPhone operating system, said the people, who asked not to be identified because the situation is private. Apple also has held talks with Alphabet Inc.’s Google about licensing that company’s Gemini chatbot. Those discussions haven’t led to an agreement, but are ongoing.
An OpenAI accord would let Apple offer a popular chatbot as part of a flurry of new AI features that it’s planning to announce next month. Bloomberg reported in April that the discussions with OpenAI had intensified. Still, there’s no guarantee that an agreement will be announced imminently.
Representatives for Apple, OpenAI and Google declined to comment.
Apple plans to make a splash in the artificial intelligence world in June, when it holds its annual Worldwide Developers Conference. As part of the push, the company will run some of its upcoming artificial intelligence features via data centers equipped with its own in-house processors, Bloomberg has reported.
Last year, Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said he personally uses OpenAI’s ChatGPT but added that there were “a number of issues that need to be sorted.” He promised that new AI features would come to Apple’s products on a “very thoughtful basis.”
On Apple’s earnings conference call last week, he argued that Apple would have an edge in AI. “We believe in the transformative power and promise of AI, and we believe we have advantages that will differentiate us in this new era, including Apple’s unique combination of seamless hardware, software and services integration,” Cook said during the earnings call.
--Article End--
I wonder what style of Chatbot Apple is planning on using. They are certainly not going the Gemini/Perplexity way where you can ask anything, so it must be for chatting with documents and PDF's, or for summarizing webpages, which would be really cool.
I bet it'll be very limited. Like how NFC is only used for Apple's Wallet service, so I bet they'll dumb it down but it'll be very useful.
Or maybe not so useful. Apple has a way of crippling new things.
The article writers should stop using “chat” because there’s lots of other uses for these things.
What ever Apple is about to show off in June has been in the works for over a year. No way they would be making last minute team ups with OpenAI now.
And if they are, it probably suggests they are not very confident in what they do have.
The backend is absolutely pluggable. Just a config change to point to different options.
That abstraction is there for over a year. This is just deciding what the default is.
This is akin to a default search engine.
No. It is not at all akin to that and is absolutely not just a config change. The device interaction layer would need to be adapted and go through an extensive round of functionality/safety testing.
If this were simply a basic LLM integration, then yes, it’d be little more than an API change. But that is not what we’re talking about here.
Wouldn’t be at all surprised if they already have whatever it is working with multiple AI backends, so they can negotiate a way better deal
“iPhone AI” rebrand incoming
aiPhone?
AIphone?
AI-iPhone?
AIphone Ultra Pro Maxx
Also Siri AI. Some tech reviewer guy started his video with OMFG APPLE HAS LEARNED ANOTHER BUZZWORD! and showed clips of ton of AI or 5G quotes etc
I could see it just being simply “iPhone AI” it would help the naming convention because personally I think “iPhone 19, iPhone 20” and so on are starting to sound a bit silly.
You know you're right. At some point I don't think they are gonna called it the iPhone 32
But then again they do need some kind of branding to differentiate it than last years model to be the new hotness
iPhone AI, iPhone AI 2, iPhone AI 3 ? Idk just guessing over here lol
aiOS