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Temperance and Prohibition era propaganda followed nearly a century later, in the 1910s
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What we didn’t know is that the lady on the right was a noted mobster and bootlegger. It all adds up
The juxtaposition of appearance and reality often makes for intriguing stories
Ah, yes, the Speak-easy Susie. Infamous for running hooch out of Canada and her child gangs.
He's just a mother trying to get her "wife beater" husband sober.
The kids are all orphans. She uses them to run alcohol.
Vote Wet
They baby isn’t even a real baby. It’s just a doll that she uses to store hooch.
This reminds me that at the same time in the revolution the soldiers and police did not search the women and that is why they were perfect to use as smugglers, they carried weapons, food, medicine, alcohol, etc.
I think if you look closer you'll understand that the lady on the left is just a family woman who's husband is an angry drunk.
Technically this poster makes sense, not sure why its "propaganda" if its true.
That was the hot button topic considering how many people were and are alcohol addicted/ dependent,
Sadly it made quite a few loaded from the misery of many, and made waitressing and tips very dependent on drunks for wages
It’s propaganda because it is a politically loaded poster intended to astroturf a certain issue. Portraying everyone who drinks alcohol as evil, violent domestic abusers is blatant propaganda, especially when you consider that most of these pro-Prohibition people were Christians, the religion that endorses assaulting children by slapping their buttocks and calls for people to be put to death for having sex outside of marriage.
The liquor lobby was actually the biggest force against the suffragette movement. They spent a ton of money to influence elections and prevent women from gaining momentum or secure rights or protections. The liquor industry thought if it became illegal to beat your wife or children then men would be forced to curb their alcoholism and they’d make less money
It’s really weird to me that you put spanking a child on the same level as killing someone lol.
Because it’s an absolutely degenerate act. Imagine engaging in any other kind of sexually fetishistic behaviour non-consensually with a minor. The people who do that need to be put in handcuffs and given a free-of-charge visit to their urologist if they’re still fertile.
The vast majority of US parents still hit their kids. And yet you still have low IQ leftists with brain damage and lead poisoning who think the prison population is “too high”.
The title confuses me
I think the ‘century later’ just refers to posting it a century later
Ahhhh ok
Nearly?
Yeah, that’s confusing. You use “nearly” when it’s not quite there yet, not when it’s more than 10 years past that anniversary.
Pub guy Barry has my vote
Barry's is the frontbutt of a man who knows how to get me properly fucked up.
evermore
I didn't know Ben Shapiro's wife was that old. She looks good for her age.
God please turn the left side into a shirt. I know a LOT of bearded bum looking brewers that would love that
Woman on the right looks like she could use a drink more than anyone.
that boy goes hard. Hell yeah I'll vote for him
That boy is 47 years old.
Swag
Old enough to be president then.
People tend to forget that the 18th Amendment was very much in line with the other “Progressive” amendments. It had bipartisan support, and many thought it would benefit society in the same way shorter work weeks and other reform-minded proposals would.
Prohibition discourse was pretty much just a means of talking about spousal rape and domestic abuse without directly talking about spousal rape and domestic abuse. There's a reason the temperance and women's suffrage movements were closely intertwined.
There was plenty of direct talk about it during the prohibition campaigns- especially the domestic abuse.
A lot of prohibitionists really did believe that it was all downstream of alcoholism and you could eliminate one by eliminating the other
Exactly. That’s why there was a significant proto-feminist/suffragist presence among early prohibitionists.
It’s also why the liquor lobby spent so much money against the suffragette movement. They thought if it became illegal to beat your wife and kids then men might feel pressure to curb their alcoholism
Which is ironically incredibly rape apologist. Because it attributes rape and domestic abuse to alcohol and not to the evil intentions of the rapist or domestic abuser. Somehow, most people can drink alcohol and not go on a rape or domestic abuse spree.
It’s similar to the downright disturbing argument that monogamy should be enforced because men will become violent and uncontrollable without a wife…and your solution is to subtly force women to marry these men that are supposedly violent animals who will lose all self-control if they don’t get their precious sex. It’s all part of the same theme that downplays the actions of violent, criminal males as being the result of some external factors they can’t control and to an extent portrays them as victims.
I just get a cloning tank.
And as it turns out, increased quality of life leads to decreased alcohol consumption: if the rats are loading up on heroin, it's a good sign that their cage is a hostile environment.
shocking that when we find circumstances intolerable we seek to numb our feelings
Yes. The animals destroying the farmers liquor stores in Animal Farm, and the Stalin standin sequestering himself away and drinking separately, is very intentionally based on the Soviet originally being incredibly prohibitionist
I can’t stand it when activists say shit like “When have progressives ever been on the wrong side of history?” Prohibition, eugenics, the elimination of phonics from schools, etc etc.
People cherry-pick their history.
How was prohibition the wrong side of history?
Generally speaking, liberal society has regarded prohibition as a failed experiment that killed American beer and wine quality for generations, created organized crime as we know it, and motivated the building of the country’s first Federal Women’s Prison. The failures of prohibition are regularly cited by those opposing the Drug War.
Of course, it’s more complicated than that. Alcoholism pre-prohibition was far worse and far more prevalent than it was after prohibition.
Really what prohibition demonstrates is that all policies have pluses and minuses.
I think the problem was that it wasn’t enforced.
Saying that progressives were the eugenicists is like saying that Republicans were the Liberal Abolitionists in the 1800s. It has a core of truth but no contextual value to the present.
The point is not “modern progressives are bad because progressives used to believe in eugenics.” And this isn’t the same as party alignment - it’s about outlook and values.
The point is “progress and progressiveness are not inherently on the right side of history.” Plenty of terrible ideas have come out of forward-thinking people who want to take us into the future and make the world a better place.
One of those things does not belong and was definitely on the right side.
I would love a world in which vasectomies and tubal ligations are encouraged and paid for by the state instead of having a cost and only being offered to people who have already bred. Especially for people like myself who descend from spankers who abuse children…there should be very generous monetary incentives for urologists who work on those oxygen-wasting sacks of shit.
Imagine how much better society and the environment would be if we cut vas deferens instead of foreskins…
…are you pro-eugenics?
You are weirdly hung up on your parents spanking you lol. It’s really not that big of a deal. I’m pretty sure most people’s parents did that, it’s quite normal across all cultures for parents to physically discipline their children. As long as they aren’t actually hurting the child then who cares. Was your little candy ass really so delicate that a spanking traumatized you into adulthood?
In the 2010s in Texas. the liquor store owners association of wet county A literally ran the anti wet campaign in neighboring county B, "for jesus and family, keep county B dry".
Life or bath for the dry cat...
Why is that kid so stanced up?
He’s a future brewer.
Who needs a wife and kids when you got booze and loose women. Don't buy the cow when you get the milk free.
The brewer makes a good point.
“Vote dry for mine!” Should have a picture of Al Capone or George Remus
that stanced up boy is the bootlegger of the family
Thats ben shapiro
Woman’s suffrage wasn’t achieved until after prohibition went into effect. Most certainly an example of correlation not being causation, but it’s a humorous coincidence that the country had to sober up before agreeing that women should be allowed to vote.
There was only like 7 states that still didn't allow women any vote by 1919, most US states had full suffrage for women earlier.
And then after 15 years of letting it happen, they needed the alcohol again.
Little did we know, little junior on the right was actually young scarface.
I remember there was a lady who destroyed canteens with a hammer
Followed what a century later? What does that clause mean?
Vote dry so the mafia can pocket it all
W. J. Rorabaugh wrote "The Alcoholic Republic" in 1979. It's a well-researched social history of alcohol use and abuse in XIXth century America. The economic and personal impact of excessive drinking is easily overlooked these days.
All I'm getting is this guy's family makes him drink
The beer baron and baby's got the same eyes. Coincidence?
that baby looks like it could use a drink
Gotta love devisive propaganda in public space.
I'll vote dry, then I'll go join my local bootlegger and live like a king mf
VOTE BOTH FOR US (FOR ALL OUR SAKES)
Doesn’t this technically count as emotionally manipulative?
Congratulations, you discovered what propaganda is. 😂
I know what it is, I’m just wondering if this would technically be illegal seeing as it is technically a political add
Why would it be illegal? Most people in politics especially politicians resort to emotional manipulation.
Can you give an example of non-manipulative advertisement? A technical analysis of economic repercussions of advertised policy peer-reviewed by economists?
What law might this "technically" fall foul of?
Why do you keep saying "technically" by the way? Of course it's a political "add" - it's about voting for fuck's sake.
Why would the use of emotion be illegal in political advertisements?
Emotional manipulation in political ads is not illegal anywhere im aware of
You know what sub this is right
Yes
Connect the dots?
Some people are giving you a hard time for mentioning emotional manipulation.
This is a sub that talks about propaganda and well, emotions is everything in propaganda.
Even the so called unbias outlets with high journalistic standards intentionally avoid factual terms that are harmful to their narrative because they can potentially sway people's opinions based on the emotional impact of those terms.
There's a reason for that.
https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev-psych-020821-010855#_i23
Emotions are not limited to an individual. They influence society.
We don't need a study to tell you that. We understand that our brains have a proclivity to notice "threats". That's why we think and act more on "threats" than feel good stories from newspapers.
If you use fear as a tool or play on people's anxieties. It has an overwhelming effect. It will naturally effect more people than the words of logic and reason.
It kinda debunks the "facts don't care about your feelings" statement lol. If reality is filtered through our perceptions then no single person or society truly understands or experiences "true reality". We only experience our perceptions of it. Those perceptions can be influenced by lies and the emotions of others around us.
It takes many times the effort to prove something is false than to say something that is false. (Brandolini's law)
We are doomed to be unreasonable as a species until we collectively recognize these factors.
Whats worse is those with money and influence will always prey on those factors.
And we all know how that's working out.
Chad industrialist vs Soy Women and children
The liquor lobby was actually the biggest political force against the Suffragette movement. They spent a ton of money to influence elections and keep women from gaining momentum. They saw women’s rights and protections as a direct threat to their business interests. If it became illegal to beat your wife and kids then it would force men to curb their alcoholism
Take a look, it’s a wild piece of US history
God forbid a mother of 3 has a glass of brandy after listening to screaming and crying all day
It was because of spousal abuse lmao
If you are the sort of person to hit your wife or you arnt. A beer aint gonna change that.
Alcohol prohibition is connected with reductions in domestic violence, it’s not an insane theory.
But to ban alcohol is an insane reaction
Yeah, this is one of the truthful propaganda. Alcoholism and other Substances benefits solely the capitalist, suppressing the worker class.
I’m sure this is a great nuisance to Barry and his mates who just want to hang out at the pub for a drink after work
There's a reason the temperance movement (pro prohibition) was got a lot of following and especially with the women. Alcoholism was widespread and often resulted in domestic violence. Of course prohibition was a complete overreaction, but alcoholism absolutely was a big issue at the time.